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3 weeks left for group stage!

There are some people who want to play, so at the start of the 3rd week I will replace people who have zero games played.

I think he went out or something I'm sure he will report soon.

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I don't have any planned, if I get any ideas I might make some though.

Would be nice if others made some too!

No! Not my precious keyboards!

taner won and money has been sent, ggs!

Quote from: Impossible on December 03, 2024, 02:01 PMthat's kinda cool to hear. so masta is the new boss of rope racing?

He's been the boss of rope racing for like the past 10 years since everyone started to disappear. I don't see anyone else who played as much as he did since then at that level.

Quote from: Impossible on December 03, 2024, 02:01 PMi'd argue that it's the other way around. macro gives you faster learning curve. with it, you'll get to the "not bad" level of roping faster. but at the highest level macro will do you the opposite, fixed timing will start to limit you, since players of top caliber can do the same thing as you can [by cheating], yet they're doing the same thing manually, and thus with much more precise control. i think you know what i mean

I know what you mean but still strongly believe having a button that improves/speeds up and stabalizes scrolling, shadows, climbing will be more beneficial for those who already are masters of roping.

Using macros is considered cheating, by all leagues that has ever existed in mainstream leagues for WA. It's using this information that I claim it's non-beneficial to learn this way because if you ever plan on competing against the best players in the world you will have to really learn how to rope and like Sensei said, RE-learn how to rope.

Yeah, no keyboard that exists is going to get anyone to Mastas level of consistency, that takes years of practise and Masta practised more than pretty most people combined in the past 5-10 years. At least with Challenges.

Quote from: FoxHound on December 02, 2024, 01:55 PMCuriously at this moment I'm reading a book (~45% of it) about this subject. Its name is 10% Human by Alanna Collen. Very interesting read.

Hey, that's pretty neat, could you share a few of your favourite passages that have anything to do with this thread please?

Quote from: Sensei on December 03, 2024, 11:03 AM

Quote from: TheKomodo on December 02, 2024, 08:38 PMWell, it's only an advantage for top tier players who are good enough, you give a script to a noob or even average player and it's not going to help them beat other top players because they still don't have enough experience moving around fast and consistent anyway.

Not true. It helps out everyone. Not-knowingly, I used this ahk script for couple of months. Long story short - when I disabled it, needed to learn roping all over again.

Till this day, never stopped wanting to punch Booter'sK in the face for sending me that.

Sounds to me like it wasn't an advantage whatsoever since in the end you had to learn how to rope for real.

I still stand by my words, it's not going to help you beat top players unless you're a top player yourself. Of course it can help a noob tap faster but that means diddly squat if we're talking being competitive in an official league or other competitive event.

I've checked out various forms of cheating/cheesing in the past and honestly the only use I've found for most of them is for showing off in Warmers.

Like, Corujao joined my host last week, it was a funner Big RR, with rubberworm and batty rope on...  He started spamming some script for taps, now I don't mind people doing this in funners even though I think it looks stupid... I did not ask him not to do it however tried to give him some advice that he's better off learning how to rope for real because it's obvious he's scripting when he can barely control it and keeps falling even with simple moves. He would appreciate the game more if he roped genuinely.

Anyway instead of listening to me, he started to insult my mother and tell me I cheat at BnG.

Quote from: Kaleu on December 03, 2024, 12:54 AMThe problem isn't whether you consider something to be cheating or not.
What matters is whether there's a way to detect it and stop people from using it, because there's no way to rely on common sense for these things.
Banning something that can't be detected only encourages people to seek it out.

Wasn't it literally detected though by Deadcode?

Quote from: Kaleu on December 03, 2024, 12:54 AMAnd I also think that people are confusing the fact that what was actually banned was the AUTOHOTKEY in general, because a macro that I was using in the match against Random00. Which pressed the T key automatically. Correlating both ocurrences.
About the script for the taps, it didn't really have a conclusion apart from banning autohotkey scripts, but again, there's no way to detect it, so it was allowed again!

Hah, I've been using the wooting to spam T with every spacebar press, and it's not even a macro or a script, it's the dynamic keystroke, it's a kind of novelty lol, it gets boring fast though.

I was always told that the autohotkey script was not only banned, but detectable, and quite easily, I'll have to ask Deadcode on this.

Quote from: Impossible on December 02, 2024, 07:43 PMbut faster tap speed is still a very serious advantage over the other players. isn't it naive to argue with that?

Well, it's only an advantage for top tier players who are good enough, you give a script to a noob or even average player and it's not going to help them beat other top players because they still don't have enough experience moving around fast and consistent anyway.

It's like this wooting keyboard being OP for taps, it's only OP for top tier players and people who can either finger roll or twitch extremely fast. People with average skills just aren't fast enough to take advantage of it's features and speed.

However, the wooting still has other features which can help even lower level players such as dynamic keystroke. For example you can set up enter to select a weapon then fire it in one keypress, it's not a macro because it's not 1 signal doing multiple things, it's a continuous analogue signal that activates at different pressure points.

You can even do crazy jetpack shots in hysteria as well with it.

So, for those who aren't aware, if you do a quick search on the meaning of "philosophy", google hits you back with:

Quote1. The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.

2. A theory or attitude that acts as a guiding principle for behaviour.

I've always saw philosophy as being #2 due to #1. As in, your understanding of reality, existence, nature, and the combined sum of your life experience and knowledge is directly responsible for your behaviour in life.

I don't believe in individual free will, at all, it does not exist, it's impossible. I believe in mutual free will, something I strongly believe will merit from serious study by top level professionals in the future.

Mutual free will is all around us, it flows like time itself, interwebbing with the entire universe and is tied with the butterfly effect. It is the reason we fall in love, why we fight, why we compete, why we exist together.

Nothing is possible alone, truly alone, the first piece of evidence is that within this reality we need a reality to exist in.

"We are that we are."

We need air to breathe, gravity to hold us in place, we need space to move, we need all the lifeforms inside us to help us survive, we need all the laws of physics to navigate and use reality together.

Most people take all this for granted, they simply don't care, and it's that selfish attitude that drags the rest of us down with them.(But it's not their fault, they don't know unless we teach them!)

You don't have to sit thinking about this stuff constantly but at least know it and understand it, from understanding we are all together and need each other I believe we will achieve more together and be able to help one another.

Though it definitely feels like there are powerful people trying to prevent this because if you've ever seen Stargate SG-1 and know what the Ori are, it's kind of like that... The universe has finite power, our world has finite power, to share that power and wealth would only limit their own.

They need us more than we need them, that's why most of us simply and merely, exist, and why so many are depressed yet don't understand why. They don't know how truly powerful we can all be together and they are scared to let go of their comforts and fight together.

I believe WE can be so much more.

Damn Kaleu goes from 0-FU faster than his autohotkeyscript can fire 2 ropes.

I have a serious question though, because I can't really even remember this...

If it's not a cheat, why was it banned? Are you telling us we're all allowed to use this because it sounds like a massive advantage to me for top tier ropers if they learn to control it right, especially in TTRR.

I guess they saw they either saw the podcasts we've been doing or I was simply the first person they recognized online lol.