In this case you can't see the grenade touching the wall. In your view does this mean the bounce doesn't count and that the red team didn't win the game? It looks like the grenade was repulsed by a magnetic force, perhaps you would like to say it was repulsed instead of bounced in this case? The replay is attached.
You can hear bounce off the wall and you can see that it changed direction.
Not sure what you are trying to achieve here other than trying to be a smartarse now?
We don't judge "tricks" with grenades or how they hit, we just use them to hit. It's not as relevant HOW they hit, unless you play BnG with rules like no sitters, but do you know what I mean?
A scenario where two players are playing trick race:
*Player 1 does a swoosh after 10 minutes of trying*
Player 2: That was kind of close to the edge, let's close the game and look at the replay frame by frame to make sure it wasn't a mexican swoosh.
*Turns out it was a mexican swoosh*
Player 2: You must try to do it again, you didn't do a swoosh. Now let's start the game, teleport back to our old positions and resume playing.
This is unreasonable and cumbersome to me. This scenario is one practical reason for why I'm arguing against the notion that how it looks is what counts. It's so this doesn't become the way we have to do things, as you say f that.
Do you think I have pity for 2 players who can't do a pretty easy enough move after 10 minutes of trying in a Trick Race lol? Sounds like they need to get better lol.
Try harder though Masta. It's not a good enough example to change my mind, the way I measure it is still more practical in my opinion.
If it's so bad, then just do what Triad and I did, allow mexican swooshes to count as swooshes. The way you do it is unreasonable and cumbersome to me, it literally takes longer to check it your way than my way. At least if you are watching in slow motion waiting to see the rope angle if you don't have access to TA.
Technically speaking we ARE actually using the information you reminded us of though, just in a different way from what you want, it was useful though, thanks!
If you ARE trying to convince me otherwise though, tackle it with this approach... Don't tell me what's more practical for YOU, think of something that would appeal to ME.
Right now, I see zero actual problems with doing it your way OR my way, they are both valid ways of measuring, it's just that the way I do it is more comfortable, feels more natural, it's faster to check for me personally etc. It also feels more traditional, historic and authentic to me.
The way you do it, you couldn't even check with the original game. So if you want to convince me you're going to have to think of something that appeals to me, not you since this is based on opinion.
Oh, one more thing!
Don't worry about it anyway, if you want to make a trick race and ALLOW it, then you are free to allow it in that Trick Race, you can say "This is what is considered a genune swoosh in this challenge" then define it any way you want.
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