I'm saying the 0.25 sec rule is stupid and should be removed. It's a sitter in my book no matter how I look at it.

1 thing is true, bng cant be fixed so we see no further complains or whines xd

Quote from: darKz on March 02, 2013, 11:38 AM
I'm saying the 0.25 sec rule is stupid and should be removed. It's a sitter in my book no matter how I look at it.

Ok fair enough, but, would you allow it as it was a fair and honest shot?

havn't watched this, but as the almighty huskov I will give my verdict if void or not, soon =)

Quote from: darKz on March 02, 2013, 11:38 AM
I'm saying the 0.25 sec rule is stupid and should be removed. It's a sitter in my book no matter how I look at it.

Either the whole rule should be removed or keep it as it is and add the definition of a sitter.

Might as well go all the way and make it NRBnG. But:

The original BnG rule was 1/4 second. I don't know how that got changed to 0.25 seconds? It was not a shot intended to be a sitter, the sitter just happened. 0.24 is a sitter to me. (It's rounded 1/4 second)

Yes the rules need to be changed for this.
Edit: just checked, the rule still states 1/4 seconds. Where did 0.25 come from then?

Quote from: darKz on March 02, 2013, 01:11 PM
Might as well go all the way and make it NRBnG. But:

ae m8 if u rly want to make a difference let's host cups with these scheme variations? all I see is talk but no action )=

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on March 02, 2013, 01:36 PM
The original BnG rule was 1/4 second. I don't know how that got changed to 0.25 seconds? It was not a shot intended to be a sitter, the sitter just happened. 0.24 is a sitter to me. (It's rounded 1/4 second)

Yes the rules need to be changed for this.
Edit: just checked, the rule still states 1/4 seconds. Where did 0.25 come from then?

Lol MI, what drug did you take? 1/4 and 0.25 is the same number Also since when is 0.24 rounded 1/4? The opposite is true, but this isn't a reversible function I think it's perfect that 0.25 isn't actually showing up in the frames. You check if the last movement/position change (this needs to be declared) happened until 0.26. If not, then it's not a sitter, because the last movement/position change will last at least until 0.24. No borderline cases.

Yeah you will have to change the number from 0.25 to 0.24 or 0.26 or something else...

When did "host cups with the scheme" become the new "it's not gonna happen anyway"?

Yeah, Prank is right, 0.25 is perfect this way lol.

I read it like you said summin else

Quote from: Prankster on March 02, 2013, 02:16 PM
Lol MI, what drug did you take? 1/4 and 0.25 is the same number Also since when is 0.24 rounded 1/4? The opposite is true, but this isn't a reversible function I think it's perfect that 0.25 isn't actually showing up in the frames. You check if the last movement/position change (this needs to be declared) happened until 0.26. If not, then it's not a sitter, because the last movement/position change will last at least until 0.24. No borderline cases.

1/4 and 0.25 are the same. To me 0.25 sounds an exact number while "1/4 second" indicates "about".
0.24 is rounded 0.25, if you look at it 50 frames per second. We're talking W:A world not pure mathematics.
If I have to draw a line, I'd choose 0.24 as sitter line, not 0.26 (0.26 being a bit higher than 1/4)

I don't know where you learnt that 1/4 indicates "about", but in school I was taught 1/2 1/4 1/8 1/16 etc are true values, if you want it to indicate "about" then you would have to say something like, "a sitter is a grenade that sits for roughly 1/4 of a second" but then this would cause even more arguements...

Quote from: MonkeyIsland on March 02, 2013, 03:48 PM

Quote from: Prankster on March 02, 2013, 02:16 PM
Lol MI, what drug did you take? 1/4 and 0.25 is the same number Also since when is 0.24 rounded 1/4? The opposite is true, but this isn't a reversible function I think it's perfect that 0.25 isn't actually showing up in the frames. You check if the last movement/position change (this needs to be declared) happened until 0.26. If not, then it's not a sitter, because the last movement/position change will last at least until 0.24. No borderline cases.

1/4 and 0.25 are the same. To me 0.25 sounds an exact number while "1/4 second" indicates "about".
0.24 is rounded 0.25, if you look at it 50 frames per second. We're talking W:A world not pure mathematics.
If I have to draw a line, I'd choose 0.24 as sitter line, not 0.26 (0.26 being a bit higher than 1/4)

Technically, everything constructed on a computer is pure mathematics. *
0.25 = 12,5 frames, which you round to 13, not 12, so it would mean 0.26 actually, not 0.24. But anyway, 0.25 or 1/4 is perfect (as a number for this purpose), read my previous post.



*I mean that it can be described with pure mathematics.