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Offline HusH

[SOLVED] https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/
« on: November 09, 2013, 04:55 PM »
Aef chosen to report a free win for the 2nd game which were never played. They cant expect you to play next game, without finishing first game.

Offline Peja

Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2013, 05:00 PM »
you quitted first game>>>  this means our win

3) Quitting

    Quitting a game before it ends means you forfeit the game. There is only one exception to the rule: if your opponent chose the wrong scheme without informing you. Before you quit, you must point out the scheme is incorrect and that you want to replay the game with the correct scheme.

as you can see in the attached log of the shopper upload, they refused to play our pick and left the host.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/

>>> this means our win
VoK: i have now beer so my rope will be perfect.
 VoK: will do ttrr every map under 30s

Offline HusH

Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2013, 05:04 PM »
Peja, let me explain XD Surrender = quit
« Last Edit: November 09, 2013, 05:07 PM by HusH »

Offline NiCo`

Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2013, 05:15 PM »
lol peja , you're my friend in worms , but with you attitude:( Why you surrender meanwhile we playing?

Offline barman

Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2013, 07:02 PM »
Surrender = quit
This is a wildly incorrect assumption which possibly derives from an insufficient gaming experience or a lack of understanding of the game mechanics. I'll try to explain it as simply as I can.

Surrender is a utitility in your invertory. You may use it in order to change the order after your move. Doing so still poses a chance of being disadvantageous, since you need to use up one turn in order to raise the flag, while you normally might want to do something more useful, like simply inflicting damage to your opponent.
This is not equivalent to quitting, which alters the game before you get to legally perform a move and breaks the game beyond repair.

I have played a number of 2v2/3v3 games where one of the players surrendered with the intention of helping their teammates. It has never crossed my mind to consider such a move illegal, possibly because I tend to focus on actually doing what brings me the closest to winning instead of constantly complaining about my opponents' way of playing ;)

Examples:
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-87148/, 20:08.
https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-87174/, 44:02.
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Offline HusH

Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2013, 09:00 PM »
How sweet. Peja had no arguements, so he calls for barmanxd That doesnt make what you postulating true however, there is no different from quitting a game, to surrender - i hope i dont have to explain its the same outcome. It simply makes a hole different tactic to play with one player less.

Surrender = quit
Surrender is a utitility in your invertory. You may use it in order to change the order after your move. Doing so still poses a chance of being disadvantageous, since you need to use up one turn in order to raise the flag, while you normally might want to do something more useful, like simply inflicting damage to your opponent
This is not equivalent to quitting, which alters the game before you get to legally perform a move and breaks the game beyond repair.


Are you sure about this? Let me tell you, if lack of experience or lack of understanding should be a problem. In our case it sure had an effect. Since nico couldnt attack peja who had quit, he had to attack chelsea, who was just next to me. That way it was good in 2 ways for aef, pileadvance and damage from nico's attack.

Its funny to see how first peja tries to  mislead the mods, now barman. I really dont care how you played the game in the past. Surrender = quit, white flag is a utitlity to make game more smooth if a restart is needed - not to make a 2vs2 clanner a 2vs1 game.

If what you saying was true, the league from now will be played a hole different way in rope schemes. Thought we had enoguh of your changning the schemes, as it happen with your notching table and bng - if not all, you are part reason why bng now has to be played with ts, thx..  Well if it was true what you said, i guess all there is left to say is, let the best man win ! Or maybe just go play some single league game.



Offline Peja

Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2013, 09:09 PM »
why the f@#! do you care for this surrender so much lol. talking about the influnce of the game>>
i had 46 hp, could just zook myself and leave the crate, so nico is forced to take 2 which gives us more options to play the turnadvanatge. basicly this surrender helped l3x.
VoK: i have now beer so my rope will be perfect.
 VoK: will do ttrr every map under 30s

Offline HusH

Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2013, 09:38 PM »
Ye tell me peja, why didnt you do that? Stick to the point and what happend in the game, instead of referring to your and barmans coversation, of what you could have done ;d Why we care? comon, now i cant say what i want for d1, but something is blocking your view, if you cant see both your reports stinks. I friendly offer you a rm, and you report a 2nd win.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2013, 09:40 PM by HusH »

Offline avirex

Re: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-156969/
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2013, 11:09 PM »
hush, you act like this is some ground breaking discovery made by peja...

like no one has ever thought to surrender before, and now that peja let the cat out of the bag, the 2v2 roper scheme will never be the same...


as barman pointed out, people have surrendered in the past, it does not mean your going to win... it does not mean your going to lose...

its just a tactic, and i encourage you to do it in the start of your next roper clanner, see if far you get.. good luck.