[SOLVED] w2Roper

[TheKomodo]

And actually, if anything w2Roper is easier, because you DO NOT have to collect the crate before you can attack, so technically, if you get your 1st 4-5 crates, and hit all those shots, and opponent misses 1-2, you can just finish them off without collecting all the crates, some strategy...

Only thing that makes it harder is having 12s, which is kind of cancelled out with the no crate rule factor.

[ShyGuy]

But do you really want to leave 1-2 crates for your opponent? Counting his drops, you are looking at him gaining about 50-100 hp if you decide to do that... it puts him right back in the game, so there is more behind then scheme than that

[avirex]

komo, everything that u say is not backed up by facts.. u have not played this scheme nearly enough to understand it.. and my guess is u have not even tried it on w:a... ur just going from your shortly lived worms2 experience.

w2roping is much more skillfull and strategic... and if im wrong that u have tried this scheme komo, id like u to prove it to me right now, i want u to upload the replay of u trying the scheme... and dont fake one be honest.. prove me wrong right now!!


but back to the topic at hand... i do agree with komo w2roping should be made seperate from roper.. but ONLY in the agreement that its not a choice to be played like it is now, u HAVE to play it... like when cfc wants rr against me... think ill win? nope.. but i play it!

[TheKomodo]

 I ain't uploading shit, I ain't doing it cuz you told me to...

You have known me long enough to know that I don't lie so think what you want...

You only have to play the scheme 2-3 times to understand it, seeing as I am a very experienced roper also, I have played this game since the start, I already have FULL KNOWLEDGE of every possible thing you can do with the rope in this type of scheme, so taking away 3 seconds of turntime, 5 seconds of retreat time, and the choice to collect crate or not, does not take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together.

End of story, I ain't getting involved in this anymore (the arguing)

I have my opinion, you have yours, lets leave it at that shall we?

[TheKomodo]

Also, for the people who haven't tried the scheme, i'm sure alot of them watched the replays you and ShyGuy uploaded, and seeing as you are the experts on this, then surely watching that is all they need to know to learn the "tactics etc"...

[TheKomodo]

But do you really want to leave 1-2 crates for your opponent? Counting his drops, you are looking at him gaining about 50-100 hp if you decide to do that... it puts him right back in the game, so there is more behind then scheme than that

At the end of the game - Yes, it saves time and is pointless if you have the lead and can kill them, and if it is a hard crate you are leaving, what's the chances of them getting both? So if you miss that turn where you didn't collect crate, which seems near impossible, or at the most, embarassing, you can collect that one, and the next one, the next turn without attacking and get your hide back, eitherway, the situation I just described begs to favour of not collecting the crate.

[avirex]

lol @ u saying ur done.. then making 2 more posts.. ur always good for a laugh my friendly friend

and btw, i was pretty confident you could not show a replay no big deal tho.

[ShyGuy]

But do you really want to leave 1-2 crates for your opponent? Counting his drops, you are looking at him gaining about 50-100 hp if you decide to do that... it puts him right back in the game, so there is more behind then scheme than that

At the end of the game - Yes, it saves time and is pointless if you have the lead and can kill them, and if it is a hard crate you are leaving, what's the chances of them getting both? So if you miss that turn where you didn't collect crate, which seems near impossible, or at the most, embarassing, you can collect that one, and the next one, the next turn without attacking and get your hide back, eitherway, the situation I just described begs to favour of not collecting the crate.

You said I should just leave any crate and attack... not just the hard ones.  If my opponent has been getting crates consistently, then I would say letting him get that 50-100 can put him right back into safety... it has happened to me before, and it is easier collecting 2-3 crates if you devote your whole turn to it than you think...

You say it is pointless if you have the lead and can kill him, but your lead gets decreased and it is harder to kill him when he can gain 50-100 hp in a single turn... just logic there... and your argument about it saving time... well... who cares?  

And actually, if anything w2Roper is easier, because you DO NOT have to collect the crate before you can attack, so technically, if you get your 1st 4-5 crates, and hit all those shots, and opponent misses 1-2, you can just finish them off without collecting all the crates, some strategy...

Only thing that makes it harder is having 12s, which is kind of cancelled out with the no crate rule factor.

Anyway, that is totally situational... do you think it will happen often that you will get 4-5 get-and-attack crates with only 13 seconds 4-5 turns in a row?  Also, your opponent has to miss 1-2 crates... so your scenario is highly improbable, and even if it does happen, I explained how their can still be strategy.

Sorry komo, you say it only takes 2-3 games to get w2roper, but you either don't get it, or you truly haven't really tried the scheme... from what I'm hearing you say, anyway


I agree it should be a separate scheme and no refusals allowed

[TheKomodo]

lol @ u saying ur done.. then making 2 more posts.. ur always good for a laugh my friendly friend

and btw, i was pretty confident you could not show a replay no big deal tho.

LOL ! Man I take pride in seeing how thick you really are lol...

And I quote:

"End of story, I ain't getting involved in this anymore (the arguing)"

You see those brackets? Sorry you are not clever enough to figure it out for yourself, so here you go, i'll spell it out for you lol:

This means I am done with the arguing, but not the debate.

Man, your stupidity never ceases to amaze me Thanks for that lol...

^^ You started the insults so take it like you give it I'm just joking around anyway, but now i'm gonna get serious...

ShyGuy, I stand by yes, leave any crate and attack, if you have the sufficient lead to win the game without needing them, ie, you have 160 or something, and they have 40-60.

And yes I do think it will happen often, just as it won't happen often as well, my scenario has happened thousands and thousands of times in a normal roper scheme, just didn't have the option to ignore crates, I have tried the scheme and I do get it, everyone has different strategies, this isn't even mine, it's just something I am saying you can do...

[avirex]

r u seriously calling me thick right now?  all ur doing is argueing, u can call it debating all you want, but u get so f@#!ing caught up in ur banter, u dont even remember what the debate is about...

we are talking about if w2roper should be in its own scheme, because mm took so many of your precious points in a roper, and its unfair because they are not even the same scheme... lmfaooooooo... thats the debate u numbskull

[avirex]

and btw when did i start the insult? lol... i simpley lol'd @ you.. just like everyone else on w:a does...    you retaliate with calling me all sorts of stupid! lol...  thats a fair exchange....


but, i dont mind... anything u say does not mean much to me, or any1 else here

[TheKomodo]

and btw when did i start the insult? lol... i simpley lol'd @ you.. just like everyone else on w:a does...

Funny how my Karma has shot right up, while yours has shot right down, now knowing this has nothing to do with the debate, it does however prove you wrong on your "everyone agrees with me" rant...

And yes, i'm calling you thick, because you decided to try and be a smartass about me not posting again and you got it wrong because that's not even exactly what I said

And you started the insults 1/2 weeks ago, but you wouldn't remember that, or even if you do, you will try and deny it, just to refresh your memory, you started it in the thread because I didn't like your scheme, you got frustrated and went off on one, and whether you like to admit it or not, you have been making snarky little comments for the past few weeks, and i've been trying to debate, I have even said on a number of occasions that I have my opinions, and that I respect yours, and that I like w2Rope scheme, but I prefer Normal Rope scheme, and you STILL decide to moan at me about it, and continue the silly arguement, because you just can't accept I have my opinion and you have yours, why can't you just agree to disagree? Or you too proud and stubborn to do that? I can keep this up longer than you, without losing it like you, trust me.

[avirex]

komo, ur applauds went from -50 to -8 in about 5 days... i wouldnt say people likes ur posts that much... im just guessing you have nice clan mates... its obvious. lmfao.. proud?


all u do is bicker and banter in every post, ur boring now.

[TheKomodo]

1st off, theres only like 1-2 of my clanmates actually applading me, just like yours, 2nd, I know exactly who is smiting me, and so do you, it's obvious

And last but not least, your saying all I do is bicker and banter in every post? Have you even looked at yourself from a different perspective? Such a hypocrit lol, takes 2 to tango avi, and you've been the other half recently...

[avirex]

lol u just dont stop!!

ok komo, ur right about everything u said in w2roper...

ur right about ur karma.. i guess u have had some really earth shattering posts lately, so everyones has been appluading you...

ur right about god
ur right about life
ur right about me now end it.. and give me a hug u big teddy bear