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[Discuss] Intermediate as Classic or Free Scheme

Started by darKz, December 08, 2008, 02:53 AM

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Chicken23

it has to be played on bo3 otherwise its too lucky. Its a very good competitive scheme darkz, dario, jigsaw, and few others are great at this scheme. Maybe tus needs to come up with a system to award more 2 wins for bo3 matchs, or each round of intermediate counts as a win/lose but you HAVE to do bo3 and not 1 round.

f4st

STAxDoubletime> My english is better than youre's

Dario

I agree with chicken23 on something:
If what troubles most of them is that they can lose when it is bo1 but they don't want to play a whole bo3 for the same points of a bo1, then you could adjust the points of bo3 matches.
Momentarily not playing TUS league games.

NAiL

Quote from: Dario on December 08, 2008, 05:29 AM
I don't like bo1 games, no matter which scheme, that is one of the reasons why I almost don't play in bo1 leagues or tournaments. I am also not sure if the kind-of-bad-luck-that-gives-you-absolutely-no-chance-to-win happens more often at Intermediate (with a decent map choice) than at T17 (with a decent map choice), wxw or shoppers (but what do I know, I don't play T17, wxw or shoppers). Also I can't really compare Inter vs Elite to say which one is better, because I think I've played a good number of both of them and I still can't do such "ranking", they are simply different.

gj Dario
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Zemke

as Í see, it's still a discuss, I'm also a intermediate player so just wanna give my opinion:

The most is already said by Dario, the map should be complex etc. Intermediate is one of the most played schemes... I think, that's why we should keep it in Classic league. I dislike all the opinions "Intermediate isn't skilled" and "Intermediate is totally luck". Of course it is a skilled scheme. Why we have players like Dario who won all his Intermediate matches till now  :o

But ok, a solution here is found with bo3. It's not a perfect solution but it's better than before!

I don't wanna open a total new discussion but Rafka said nothing here and he is the 2nd place in ranking and it's also about him. I told him about this discussion, I hope he will answer.

Rafka

thx Pink for info, I dont look at forum so much :P
Anyway I agree, bo3 will be fine...
P.S. Dark, dont cry man, we can play more games then 1. Im just wondering would You in my place do the same move as I...:P but no metter U will have a lot of chances to beat me :P


NAiL

my thoughts, bo1 inter: play with deployment.

bo3 inter, play as usual.
worm and learn

MonkeyIsland

I suppose you all ae considering that base points for Intermediate is 50 and -26 points if you play bo3 and 40 and -21 if you play bo1.
Due to massive misunderstandings: MonkeyIsland refers to an island not a monkey. I would be a monkey, if my name was IslandMonkey meaning a monkey who is or lives on an island. MonkeyIsland is an island which is related to monkeys. Also there's been a legend around saying MonkeyIsland is a game. So please, think of me as an island or a game.

Zemke

yea, and it's good like that. Solution is found in my opinion. Keep it like that in the new system ;)

NAiL

It makes no sense to do that though, people play bo1 because their opponant can't be assed to play bo3, why should one players lazyness result in lesser victory points?
worm and learn

Zemke

right NAiL! This would be a continue of a good solution xD

I had this often, that's why there should be a rule: You have to play bo3 or bo1 if your opponent wants it.

So the "picker" choose and the opponent have to accept.

MonkeyIsland

I guess you have you are not considering one element here. and That's the time of these games. If your opponent don't wanna play bo3, It saves you 2 games time (That you would be playing bo3). You can play another league game in that time.
Due to massive misunderstandings: MonkeyIsland refers to an island not a monkey. I would be a monkey, if my name was IslandMonkey meaning a monkey who is or lives on an island. MonkeyIsland is an island which is related to monkeys. Also there's been a legend around saying MonkeyIsland is a game. So please, think of me as an island or a game.

NAiL

Yes but as has already been established, playing inter bo1 is not fair, plain and simple.

Playing bo1 with placement at the start of the match seems to solve this issue, but I know the hardcore inter players won't like this idea very much, as problem solving it may be.
worm and learn