A solution for PO

[MonkeyIsland]

Hey guys

well as you must have seen, PO qualifications changes at the very end of each season. I have people complaining about they try to be in PO and play in entire season, then at the very end, some 'overall-high' player fills up his number of games and kick them out, I'm starting this topic for these people and of course for the sake of our league.

What do you think about the whole thing? Do you think it is cool that PO spots can change until the very last moment? Do you think it is an abuse to the system? If so, do you have any idea to modify the league to prevent this?

[beer]

my ideias, that i said to you.



1- player/clan cant do half of his/their games in last week of the season (season has 60 days fair u do that in the 60 day and not in last 5). e.g if bOr had 14 games in the first day of last week, its alwread out of getting in PO (14 cose at the moment limit is 30)

2-put a variable date for the end of the season, e.g season end not int 23-2-10 but it may end between 23-2-10 to 28 (3,4  or 5 days  we have to think.

3-increase the number of games, singles to 100 (evrything would be bettr then 50) clanners to 70.



its just some ideias that i think would improve PO system.

[Chicken23]

I think point 3 is the only valid options out of beer's suggestions.

Once point 3 is taken into account and i suggest not 100 games but 70 for singles. 50 for clanners. There wont be inactive people with higher overall rating abusing the system. 70 and 50 are alot of games. It doesnt matter if a clan does all it games in the last 4 days of the season like beer's suggestion. If a clan comes on and plays 20 games in the last 4 days then with a winning ratio of over 50% and a high overall they still deserve that po spot.

Don't have varitation dates this is silly. If anything make the season length the length of the actually 2 months. That will add to less confusing than checking the season information. Some seasons will be 61 days, others maybe 62 day. Everyones last day of that month would be end of seaosn.



I would like to add that beer is a hypocrite. He is complaining about pr playing games at the end of the season. Beer did the exact same thing with his clan mate madden at the end of season 9.

The only thing to make playoffs more representitive of the active players of a seaosn is to increase the limits. But you still need good players in playoffs. However an active clan that is 117 - 100 doesnt deserve playoffs in my view. How about increasing the winning ratio to 60 and see if it makes much of a difference?

[beer]

If a clan comes on and plays 20 games in the last 4 days then with a winning ratio of over 50% and a high overall they still deserve that po spot

i guess not, that was CF did, nothing ilegal, but still its unfair since lots of clans made this season active and they did PO in last day.

Some seasons will be 61 days, others maybe 62 day. Everyones last day of that month would be end of seaosn.

yes it will avoid who did theire games in last hours as PR or CF, u cant be there 24h cose u dunno when it end, this point have to be improved, its just the initial idea.

I would like to add that beer is a hypocrite. He is complaining about pr playing games at the end of the season. Beer did the exact same thing with his clan mate madden at the end of season 9.

hypocrite? how can u call me that? u see an complain here? did i started this theard?
its true that ideas will may avoid pr or CF actituds in last season, they did good, nothing wrong with it, but still unfair in my eyes.. myself and my clan lost playoffs place in last hours of season, thtat season was 60 days. i was alwys in playoffs aftr 50 games, i've never missed that place, also bOr.. u thinks thats fair? u said it was sad in shoutbox, changed ur mind?

what did I in season 9 with madden at the end? watch (could do that b4 ur post)  https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/members-stats/beer/?s=9;l=classic

as u see at the end  there is just a game with Madden that i lost, lmao what u want? still, how can u say that? just watch my stats in season 9.
also i played 141 games in season 9, not 50 in last day.. dnt get ur last point, looks like u wanna start a flame agains me now and right here..
I'm not avoider and im active in these seasons...



edit, ulr missed

[Chicken23]

ok. my mistake. it wasnt very madden or your clan mate. It was the season when people could reset ratings and you earnt loads of seasonal because you reset your overall rank from star rank back down to bronze of 1000 points. Then you earnt loads of seasonal points to make a playoff spot.

[beer]

yes i did, i could do that, also u too so u would do that too.
and this season? i couldnt reset my rank and watch my position, so no execuses now.

MI started this thread to improve PO system, if u start saing things that dnt matter in third post, this will be just one more thread with lots of spamm and things that we dnt really need here.

[Chicken23]

indeed. Thats why the only suggestions to improve po places is increasing the games played to make playoffs. 50 for clanners and 70 for singles would be my suggestions.

pr made 50 games and deserved his place. Hes a better player than you otherwise you would have a higher overall rating, espically as you did 100 plus games. If you won more you would have higher overall rating.

dub-c nearly made playoffs only with 50 games and was active during the last month of the seaosn. it was only because he bumped out benz that benz played more games to give himself a higher seasonal than dubc, who didnt play for the last 5 days of season.

If dub had made the playoffs would the same argument be here? I don't think so. I think tus is working fine. The selection of people in the single playoffs is fair. You just werent good enough beer. You dont see me crying because i didnt make it either. I played over 100 games and was in the top 20, i have a strong overall rank of 16th but i didnt make it either. I need to increase my winning precentage, not drop points in defaults and rope a little better to improve my overall. Just get over yourself and try harder next season.

[beer]

if pr deserv, why do u think that CF dont? they did 30 games..
i donot choice the players that i play, so maybe with more then 100 players its hard to improve my overall rank that fast, but choicing who we play even in last days isnt that hard.

no i dnt see u crying, also im not crying, i just posted some ideas and u started talking 'bullshit' about me, games that i never played, u played over 100 games so me too, u were top 20? i were all season not less then 10 position. sure ur overall rank is strong? but 25th, mine is 16th.. you can not compare.

chicken, pls u may start watching my profile before saying things like that, my overall, my games that i didnt played with madden, etc.. its sad -.-'

[Error]

requirements is 50 in season and at least 10 every week
for claners is 30 is season and at least 5 every week

imo its easy and good way...

btw in aditional u can add something like: there is atleast 10 (or 20) players in 'Games Limitation' table...


alll this not solve problem at all but its not so hard for MI imo and its add headake to pr and others...

[Chicken23]

30 games for an inactive clan is easy over 60 days of season. thats why it should be 50 for clanners.

[MonkeyIsland]

1. It is 45 days not 60. Remember we changed it at the start of season 10.

2. It wasn't about beer and pr or bOr and CF. xLo and Lukz was another case. benz asked me why he was kicked out from PO last season. So please do not make it personal. None of the players did anything wrong, pr/CF/bOr/xLo ... all did fine. It is just about improving.

3. @error, 10 games per week or so is not a bad idea. But some people enters the league in the middle of it, so won't work actually.

4. TUS had even more games done than previous seasons. I think it is possible to increase limits.

5. Maybe a 'culture' to always watch the standings at the very end of season and try to play games along with the end of the season?

[Chicken23]

i think a slight adjustment to the games needed is all that is needed. This is a ladder remember and overall points are there for a reason. I dont think pr did anything wrong.

I think people forget the league is a ladder and the importance of overall. I think if the default view of standings was with overall then the newcomers to the site would realise this... then if u wanted to view seasonal you could switch to it like you can do now.

This is a ladder, the league doesnt reset and more focus needs to be drawn to this. People would look at the standings last season and think shaggy was the best player on tus, when infact random00 was.

[Uber]

Increase of matches for sure is a good thing imo. And 50 clanners sounds like a fair number. In a 45 day season its over 1 clanner a day which sounds like a fair and reasonable number 2 manage.

And the system with 4 overall and 4 season "tickets" for PO is fine also. The main thing is people dont understand how this works. How about when u press "standings" u get 2 standings next 2 eachother, 1 for season 1 for overall. And thats in the current season of course. Then people can see that the top 4 in each of those 2 tables are the current qualifiers. Its easy for every1 to understand and its easy 2 see how close/far u are from reaching PO and who can catch u etc. Im aware of the option just pressing "season points" or "overall" points, but many dont know/understand this. Put 2 tables next 2 eachother in the same page, both from the current system, its idiot-proof!

[MonkeyIsland]

Uber we don't have any room for that XD, how wide is your monitor/resolution?

[Uber]

i have the highest res on a 17" screen. But i can see ur point. WOuld just be nice 2 see em combined. Dont wanna make more work for u tho MI. Ur doing enough for this page/community as it is.