Random Clan League

[darKz]

Idea from this thread.

I was thinking about a "random clan league" - you sign up like to a cup and at every start of season, it creates random clans from all the players who signed up. And then those clans play against each other in the random clan league!

Could even set up private forums for all the clans so players can discuss stuff, like who is strong at which scheme etc. I personally find this would be worth a shot.

Basically you'd sign up to it much like to a cup.. There should be a reward-system though, like, since clans are different every season with this system, players must get individual points.. There should be overall standings like in the singles league, but the clanner-stats are recorded.. Having overall standings and everything.

Further ideas or criticism are welcome.

Edit: Of course this is meant like an additional league, not to replace the current clan league!!

[Ray]

So this would mean basically random crews of, let's say, four people would be created, right?

I like the idea itself, but a few notes: how would you make sure not to put people together who play the same schemes? Like if you randomly put 4 great RR players together, they still going to suck at Elite or BnG or even refuse to play.

Other thing I was thinking about, since this would be different from the actual league, I would be thinking more about like a system in which everyone would have to play the same amount of games. I mean each crew, not the individual people in each crew.

If we could come up with an idea for this, I think it would be brilliant, absolutely applaudable idea.

[TheKomodo]

It wouldn't matter about if all players played same scheme, I think the main purpose is to get out there, play with different people, good chance for like, teamplaying and stuff, also it's a good learning experience for other schemes you don't normally play.

I totally support this idea, great idea Rene

[HHC]

We've done these draft leagues many times in the past, it just didn't work out.. Usually clans are made up of people who stick together, it's much easier to arrange a game then.
Better to go for single-matches and count the points together to get a total for the entire team. Could even link it to the regular TUS-league.

[Maciej]

IMO it's not good idea. I guess that if it's random, there could be a lot fights in groups, and it will just not work. Just think about if you have to play for your enemy... it will not work
PPL in clan are friends, they know themself well and it's nicer to play with clanmates. Anyway, do whatever you wish, but I'm not gonna take part in it. And it can do clan league even less active.

[Camper]

Most of player are not as you, full of enemies, lol

[MonkeyIsland]

I like the idea. But I'm not sure how it is gonna get its activity. Are people really gonna seek clanners for their temp-clan? (a bit like singles 2vs2)

Can you come up with a good activity plan? (HHC mentioned about its inactivity too)

[chakkman]

Bit soul less imo to get piled up with random people which i probably don't even know to do clan games which always require certain team play aspects. One of the main thrills for me when i do clanners is to give everything for my clan, like in a football match where the players give everything for their clubs. That would completely fall away here i guess. I also doubt that it would be good for the activity in TUS clan league which isn't so great anyway nowadays... too much stuff on TUS anyway that holds people off from clanning.

[TheKomodo]

Well, why don't we make one up for the people who actually the idea and don't mind being paired up with strangers?

[HHC]

random 2vs2 games could also work, as in allow people to play with anyone else involved in the league, kinda like 2vs2 TUS, but then count the result towards a team ranking.
For example:
playerCF & playerTdC -vs- playerDoH & playerDoH2

If the first team wins CF and TdC would get one point, while DoH loses two. That would make it easier to arrange games, cause nobody would need a partner to be on at that time..
And I reckon if it's at all possible, players will choose a partner of their own team first above one of the rival teams, so it would still be a team battle.
It might also be easier to make the games more even. The expert RR'er can be paired with the worst RR'er to still get a decent match.

[TheKomodo]

random 2vs2 games could also work, as in allow people to play with anyone else involved in the league, kinda like 2vs2 TUS, but then count the result towards a team ranking.
For example:
playerCF & playerTdC -vs- playerDoH & playerDoH2

If the first team wins CF and TdC would get one point, while DoH loses two. That would make it easier to arrange games, cause nobody would need a partner to be on at that time..
And I reckon if it's at all possible, players will choose a partner of their own team first above one of the rival teams, so it would still be a team battle.
It might also be easier to make the games more even. The expert RR'er can be paired with the worst RR'er to still get a decent match.

This, also, is a great idea I actually think this is even better !

We are actually starting a similar thing in a2b soon anyway

[darKz]

Well I think there are quite some occassions when there's none of your clanmates online and you'd still like to play a clanner.. So this would kinda make a bridge for many players. It would also be nice for guys who don't have a clan and thus can't participate in the clan league even if they wanted to. This way they can gather some serious 2vs2 experience and maybe do good enough to get recruited by a clan.

It would also enhance your teamworking-ability since you get to play together with many different players.. There are many guys on WormNET who I'd love to play clanners with, but I can't just quit CF. And honestly, I'd play even if I were teamed up with Zippo or Crash, that's just how much I love clanners. While I'm at that, it could actually help getting over fights with your temporary clanmate (I know, let me dream! ).

[TheKomodo]

Well I think there are quite some occassions when there's none of your clanmates online and you'd still like to play a clanner.. So this would kinda make a bridge for many players. It would also be nice for guys who don't have a clan and thus can't participate in the clan league even if they wanted to. This way they can gather some serious 2vs2 experience and maybe do good enough to get recruited by a clan.

It would also enhance your teamworking-ability since you get to play together with many different players.. There are many guys on WormNET who I'd love to play clanners with, but I can't just quit CF. And honestly, I'd play even if I were teamed up with Zippo or Crash, that's just how much I love clanners. While I'm at that, it could actually help getting over fights with your temporary clanmate (I know, let me dream! ).

Up until "that's just how much I love clanners" (cuz CF hardly plays )lol, upfront/honestly and in all serious, this is probably the only post i've ever read and 110% agreed with and thought of the same words, I kind of said a similar thing:

"This way they can gather some serious 2vs2 experience and maybe do good enough to get recruited by a clan.

It would also enhance your teamworking-ability since you get to play together with many different players.."

I honestly could not agree more, Rene, you have seriously opened my eyes with this... I am not kidding, I am sitting getting really excited (very moist indeed! lol, jus kidding) but yeah man i'm all tingly lol, it's something new and hasn't properly been done before, and even if TuS won't do it, I will go as far as to say we should consider making a seperate league altogether for just Random Clanners, I seriously think this will spice things up and add new flavour and competition to Clanning.

Good thing about this, you wouldn't have to take it seriously, OR you could take it as serious as you want.

I think, maybe an idea like this:

Seasons are either 1 month or 2 months long, maximum of 5 members in each random clan, for all participating members of this Random Clan League (RCL Hah, even has a nice ring to it! ) After every season, EVERYONE gets swapped randomly in the clans.

The only trouble I could see is, what would you call the clans? Maybe make like 10 clans, with the names of colours (like Reservoir Dogs ):

Red
Black
Blue
Green
White -  Etc you get the point...

No playoffs, as it's random all the time so I feel this would be pointless, and clanner playoffs rarely get finished anyway.

What does everyone think, this is the best idea i've heard for years...

I am gonna give you +1 everyday for the next week Rene (If I remember lol)

[darKz]

cuz CF hardly plays

You need 2 players to play a clanner. :|

I am gonna give you +1 everyday for the next week Rene (If I remember lol)

And cheers for that.

It wouldn't be a problem to come up with a "random clan name database" or something.. That's really simple. The only problem I see is how to display overall standings.. Maybe just have loads of statistics? Like, which player has the highest win percentage, who gained most points for his clan(s), what's the most successful player combo? Etc etc.

We've done these draft leagues many times in the past, it just didn't work out..

Strange, I've been an active league player since cl2k and I never saw something like this done before.. Also, times have changed, maybe it's worth a shot now?

[Ray]

Maybe this could be implemented instead of 2v2 Singles? I don't really see too much of an activity going down there...

Just think about if you have to play for your enemy...

Enemy is in wars, in worms, you probably have opponents or people from other clans (still I'd say opponent to that).

[/offtopic]

I am glad this idea seems to turn out well, and I'm also just as excited about it as Komo, apparently. For instance, I would look forward talking on the microphone with someone I'd have never played with normally.

The only problem I see is how to display overall standings.. Maybe just have loads of statistics? Like, which player has the highest win percentage, who gained most points for his clan(s), what's the most successful player combo? Etc etc.

I don't want to... blow the party here, but I think if this project is being coded, then we should be really careful about those statistics... Since the current League statistics look awful and it's full with useless things.

Other than that, I love it, +1 +1 +1 +1 for darKz.