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Offline Crazy

Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« on: March 09, 2013, 10:04 AM »
Hey guys!

The Norwegian season in soccer is about to kick off within a few weeks time, and some matches are already being played in the lower divisions. Many people believe that beating the bookmaker and making a profit on gambling is impossible. I want to show you throughout 2013 that this is utterly bullshit. Beating the bookmaker is possible when you play at odds which is incorrectly set and gives you value over time. I will even show you how you can make a profit of approximately 10 000 euros. So first of all, how do you find odds that is incorrectly set?

My friend is very interested in soccer, and especially Norwegian soccer. He knows everything there is to know about all the teams in the 2nd, 3rd and even 4th division in Norway. He has a wide network of contacts, and they provide him with information about injuries, suspensions, form and so on. He's also very familiar with the different types of venues. So, we bet on matches where WE have better knowledge then the bookmaker. This is lower league Norwegian games, and it is difficult for the oddssetters to get the information about changes in the team before we get it.

I had a bankrollmanagement project running throughout last season on our predictions. I wanted to check which type of management that was the most profitable, and risk of ruin equal to zero. I landed on the type "flat bet" in the end, where I bet 4% of the bankroll on each bet every time. Other type of strategies that were tested was Kelly, half kelly, 1/4 kelly and 1-10 units.

So, the bankroll I started with in this BRM-project was 10 000 NOK (Norwegian Kroner), which is about 1350 euros/1750 dollars. The goal for this year is to increase the roll in the range of ca 9400 euros/12300 dollars. To do so, it is highly important that this bankroll is not being withdrawn from. It is also important to have an account at Moneybookers or Neteller in order to transfer money quickly and safely from one bookmaker to another. You must also have accounts on Nordicbet, Betsafe, Unibet and Bet365. The first prediction I'm posting is a bet offered at Betsafe only.

Here is the first prediction:
Sport: Soccer
League: Norwegian Cupqualifiers
Match: Skotfoss-Herkules
Bet: Over 4.5 goals
Odds: 2.02
Bookmaker: Betsafe
Stake: 4%
Stake of bankroll: 54 euros/70 dollars
Date/time: 17.03.13 13.00

Home team Skotfoss played over 4.5 in 24 out of 26 matches last season. Herkules played over 4.5 in 14 out of 26 matches. Being offered this odds is a big surprise considering Skotfoss very weak defense. These two teams played in the same division last year, but Skotfoss relegated with clear margin and is now in the 4th division in Norway. The meetings last season ended 5-0 and 7-0 to Herkules. Herkules is not as strong as they were last season as they've lost a few players, but they're still far better then homeside. This is the first match of the season for both teams, we should expect lots of goals and 2.02 is well payed. I give this bet a 60% chance to win, and odds shouldn't be any higher then 1.7 here. I expect this odds to drop quick today and advice to play it as early as possible.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2013, 10:06 AM by Crazy »

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2013, 10:22 AM »
I am really amazed with your passion for betting, you really really know what you are doing, I both admire and respect that !

Offline Free

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2013, 10:56 AM »
U gonna keep updating this thread throughout the year? Im liking this thread

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2013, 11:10 AM »
I had 90% winning on world cup at Africa. I remember I was so happy when I successfuly predicted first match USA - England haha. Later I lost most of that money in Ukrainian premiere league

Offline Crazy

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2013, 11:51 AM »
U gonna keep updating this thread throughout the year? Im liking this thread

Yes, I will keep updating and I'll try to post the predictions here as early as possible each time! The odds on over/under is now removed from Betsafe and it is not possible to place the bet anymore

Offline Crazy

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2013, 11:44 AM »
Sport: Soccer
League: Norwegian Cupqualifiers
Match: Meldal-Surnadal
Bet: Meldal
Odds: 1.91
Bookmaker: Betsafe
Stake: 4%
Stake of bankroll: 52 euros/67 dollars
Date/time: Today at 19.30


These two teams recently played a friendly match, and Meldal won 2-0 on awayfield. Surnadal is expected to relegate from 3rd division this year, and they're usually a weak awayteam. Meldal promoted from 4th to 3rd divison, and has a young and exciting team. Two important players are back in the team today. Nice odds offered by Betsafe, Nordic offers 1.70 for the same bet. This is the first serious match this year for both teams.

Offline THeDoGG

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 11:17 AM »
10K euros sounds like a lot ! But actually in 1 year in europe its half of what you can earn with a normal job! Then it depends if you are doing this as an extra activity or if it takes you full-time to manage it. I know in France some people can live just by gambling on horse racing, but they are very passionate and its like a full time job for them :) In france earning from gambling is not taxed D: But those people are not very rich, just earning like a salary ^^

Offline Crazy

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 06:04 PM »
Yea horse racing takes up a lot of research I guess thedogg? For us its only an extra activity imo.

Meldal-Surnadal
Result: 0-1
BET LOST (-52 euro)

Skotfoss-Herkules
Result: 3-3
BET WON (+55.08 euro)

Profit/loss so far: +3.08 euros

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 05:25 AM »
How's it going Crazy? What's your profit/loss atm?

Offline Crazy

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2014, 11:12 AM »
It was a decent year Dulek, too bad I gave up after two bets only :D I will give it another go this year!! Last years two bets gave a profit of 3.08 euros (wohoooo) and current bankroll: 1353.08 euros.

Sport: Soccer
League: Norway NM Cup
Match: Rollon-Skarbøvik
Bet: Nils Ottar Sandø Will Score
Odds: 2.05
Bookmaker: Nordicbet
Stake: 4%
Stake of bankroll: 54.12 euros
Date/time: Today at 19.00


Correct odds in this bet should be somewhere around 1.50, 36 year old striker with lots of experience from highest level in Norway. Set to retire in 3.division club Skarbøvik, who's facing 4th division team Rollon in a qualification match today. Sandø has shown great shape in preseason matches with 10 goals in 3 matches. 2.05 is worth a bet, GL!

Offline Crazy

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2014, 07:01 PM »
It's half-time between Rollon-Skarbøvik and the score is 1-1. Goalscorer for the awayteam was Nils Ottar Sandbø!

BET WON (+56.82 euros)

New bankroll: 1409.9 euros
Profit so far: +59.9 euros

Offline TheWalrus

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2014, 11:01 PM »
ridiculous stuff crazy.  the odds seemed like shit to me, but probably because I don't bet football.  so @ 2.05 this Sandbo guy has to score every other game for it to pay off on the mean.  Isn't that a lot of scoring in football?  Or do top scorers get that many goals?  I thought most matches were 2-1, 1-1, 1-0 affairs.

Offline Crazy

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2014, 11:16 PM »
Haha, I can understand your point of view! But no, not on this level. This was a match between a 4th division team and 3rd division team, and in these divisions there's an high average of goals. The match between Rollon and Skarbøvik ended 1-4 in full time, and Sandbo scored two goals! Scoring every other game is a lot of scoring in football, but a good striker in this division can easily score more goals then he plays matches. And this particular guy used to play on the highest level not so many years ago.

Edit: My mate predicted the awayteam to score atleast three goals today, and gave Sandbø 60-65% chance to be on the scoringlist
« Last Edit: March 12, 2014, 11:20 PM by Crazy »

Offline Crazy

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2014, 11:17 PM »
Sport: Soccer
League: Norway NM Cup
Match: Sola-Vaulen
Bet: Sola -1 (handicap)
Odds: 2.00
Bookmaker: Nordicbet
Stake: 4%
Stake of bankroll: 56.4 euros
Date/time: Today at 19.00 local (18 GMT)


These two teams both play in the 3rd division, Sola is newly promoted to the league but yet the huge favourite to win their division this year. They've got money and has a squad consisting of players with experience from the 1st and 2nd division, amongst them Lennox Kanu and Morten Eriksen, who will score tons of goals this season. Vaulen is an average 3rd division team and they are capable of upsetting this homeside on a good day. It's the first real match of the season for both teams, but homeside on paper is so much stronger that the odds offered today should have some value. Bet is Sola to win with atleast two goals (handicap).

Offline Ryan

Re: Crazy's bettingcorner: 10K euros in one year
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2014, 11:21 PM »
Yeah I was thinking that. A good goalscorer specialist would do well to score in every other game (1 in 2), and 36 is very old for a footballer.
Guess it depends on the opponents.

Football is too unpredictable for me to bet on!