Tree Fiddy

[DarkOne]

(© D1)

Can I get royalty fees for that?

I think Cue summarized things well earlier. If you're doing something for the credit, then you shouldn't do it. I stopped hosting RRkit tournaments a couple of years back after it stopped appealing to me (after a great run if I do say so myself ). If compliments and such are your main motivation, then keeping something going will be very draining. And you know what? If you're doing something because you really want todo it, then the quality of that event/project/whatever will be much better (at least, in my experience).

At any rate, there's only a couple of people whose opinion I really care about. It's people that after all this time still look at WA for what it is: a fun game to spend time with (the major reason why I asked TdC if I could join a while back). And I care about the opinion of people that spend time trying to make it more fun to play (and yes, Komo, that means you're in that group of people too, even if we don't always see eye to eye.)

PS: You're obviously the kind of people who just sit on what they have and don't even try to improve the situations.
Your last sentence prooved it.

I love this part.

If you honestly believe Cueshark is not interested in improving WA one bit, then you don't know Cueshark.
I don't doubt that you want to make WA better too, but the difference between you and Cueshark is this: Cueshark does things and you tell others how they should be doing things.

If you look at the history of WA, then you will see that it's individuals who step up to the plate and make something, rather than talking on the sidelines that get things done.
cl2k (Poo), WACL (CoLoN, though plenty of oldschoolers would probably rather forget this for other reasons), fb (kiros, flamie), TUS (MI, Wormiverse, darkmaul), wmdb (AliceinChains, FFie), RRkit (TonY), Wormtube (Wyv and the wonderful people that make its contents), The Challenge Base (Wyv), X-worms (franz, KRD, Mablak), first competitive tournament cycles (Tiger), Worm Olympics (FFie), beta updates (Deadcode and Cybershadow), Project X (Entuser and companions), new schemes (bungeerace - Lyndon, hysteria - Run, WFW - miner2094 and lately, DumbBongChow with several new schemes) and people who have always tried to create new appeals to things that already exist (Bloopy, Komo, Wyv, Cueshark, DumbBongChow) and people who continually raise the bar in gameplay (Random, Ryan, Mablak, volrin, Komo, Dw33b, Cueshark, Dulek, Dario and the list goes on).

I'm probably missing plenty of successful projects in the list, but rest assured, it's not because I don't think they were important for the game.
But for all those people in that list, I guarantee you: they didn't do what they did for the credit, but because they wanted to make something for the game they love. They have all had their share of criticism, but that didn't matter. There were plenty of people that saw it for what it was and appreciated it as such and you could see it in the success of their projects/achievements.

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[TheKomodo]

Komo, If I was hesitating to ban a player like Random00, I would accept getting labels. But there's no hesitation to ban a player who has already got banned 3 times. But you should have seen that already?

So what you are saying, if someone is a repeat offender, it makes it ok? Do you realise by what you are saying you are outright stating people who continously break the rules will go unpunished.

I honestly don't see how anyone who is reading this could trust the rules ever again.

When I deleted avi's posts on the b2b forum, he just posted it again, I deleted it, he tried again, I deleted it, he tried again, I deleted it, he gave up, problem solved.

D1, nice post.

[MonkeyIsland]

You got it wrong. You said I'm weak because I don't ban him. I said it's not weakness when I've already banned him 3 times. There must be another reason for the delay which is not your main problem right now. You're adding dt as a bonus to the whole fuss.

[Crazy]

I find it really sad that you feel this way Komo, cause you ARE a nice guy and a true legend of this game. You have always been a part of WA, and I really hope you will be in the future as well. By the looks of it you have frustration build up over a very long period of time and I think only a similar long break from WA will help you get rid of all this frustration. Please try to take a break, and you might come back with more motivation and a different look of the community.

[darKz]

I've been farting pretty much nonstop for the last 15 minutes, there's gotta be something wrong with my digestion...

[nino]

just an exemple:

komo got mad at me, cos of the big complaint thread when he kicked avirex 3 times and stuff.

i sent him 2 pms and he didnot even reply, u really is acting weird lately komo. 

since u stoped smoke cig, there something going wrong with u IMO.   

[theredi]

You know what, I honestly feel anyone who isn't strong enough to avenge an innocent persons death doesn't even deserve to live themself, If someone killed my daughter, if I had one, I would do things so horrible to them it would f@#!ing scare you to death.

I didn't respond to your last post cuz I didn't read it, you are not important enough to waste my time.

ok im drunk now and i will give u what u want u f@#!en sick prick, i would be able to do such horrible things too, but i woudlnt coz it would be my choice, and u are f@#!en sick pathethic piece of shit if u cant understand it, f@#! u u motherf@#!er, i have no words to describe ur pathetic sickness, walk out the street and start to kill people u sick mofo, i dont care what u think and what u say but its unbelievable pathetic what u say, u just say that u would, but u wouldnt coz u are too pussy to do it
hahaahhahahahhahaahhhhhha LMAOOO U f@#!EN SICK BITCH CUT OFF THE BULLSHIT, STOP SAYING WHAT U WOULD DO AND START TO DO IT INSTEAD...

MI PLZ MUTE THIS FAGGOT I CANT STAND THIS HIPOCRYSY ANYMORE...

[Peja]

redi for president, then form a alliance with silvio and the world will be a better place

[Abnaxus]

Cueshark does things and you tell others how they should be doing things.

The thing is we can make Worms better if everybody acts a nice way, since I do, it's not up to me anymore.

Anyway, knowing people wouldn't even try, I tried to help the community by teaching newcomers roping and other stuff and hosting some tourneys (on WWP).
You weren't there, you just don't know, so whatever.
Plus, I'm not as skilled as Cueshark to do some things (such as making a great funny song, good videos or anything he did ftm).

So yeah, my rendment maybe isn't as good as Cueshark one's.
But my believe is "if you want a great job, start with great/the basis", which means people.


PS: Thanks I said I wouldn't argue anymore.
I'm getting tricked everytime..

[TheKomodo]

nino I did not get mad at you, I just can't be bothered arguing with you.

[TheWalrus]

I find it really sad that you feel this way Komo, cause you ARE a nice guy and a true legend of this game. You have always been a part of WA, and I really hope you will be in the future as well. By the looks of it you have frustration build up over a very long period of time and I think only a similar long break from WA will help you get rid of all this frustration. Please try to take a break, and you might come back with more motivation and a different look of the community.

yeah you are not the same as i remember.  you are the inverse.  bizarro komodo.  seems like you are angry all the time now.

[nino]

nino I did not get mad at you, I just can't be bothered arguing with you.

And could you explain why?

[MonkeyIsland]

theredi, better for you to cool off now. What does it take to talk in a civilized way, seriously? *muted.

Abnaxus,
It's not called a liar or anything. It's just different ways of thinking. It's like parents who wants their children off drugs but they choose wrong ways to scare them. I was telling you most of the people have good intentions but they focus on how bad current things are, hoping/wanting to reach a better situation.

[Abnaxus]

It's not called a liar or anything. It's just different ways of thinking. It's like parents who wants their children off drugs but they choose wrong ways to scare them.

I don't like that. I prefer telling the truth to a child and let him do his own choice (it helps you knowing your child at the same time).
But well, it's sure I won't let him the choice until he grew enough, but well, telling the truth is just the best thing if you don't want him to get angry in the future.

I was telling you most of the people have good intentions but they focus on how bad current things are, hoping/wanting to reach a better situation.

If there are huge bad things (let's say 25%), why don't we make it less ?
It's not so hard, don't need a lot of time or anything but acting like a good human..
Since then, I just don't understand why people don't do it...

[DarkOne]

Plus, I'm not as skilled as Cueshark to do some things (such as making a great funny song, good videos or anything he did ftm).

You don't need to be as skilled as Cueshark A positive contribution doesn't have to be a nice movie. A positive contribution doesn't have to be a new league. Find an idea and focus on it. The list I mentioned  only got to be there because because those people had ideas they followed through on, with a little help along the way

You are telling people "The way you are behaving now is wrong. Do things differently."
The first natural reaction to this (almost a reflex!) is a defensive stand. Of course there's nothing wrong with how I act! (of course, this is my first reaction too, I'm only human!) It has worked out for me so far, so why should I care about that person's opinion?
Then comes a more difficult part. Reflecting on whether your own behaviour is correct or not. Personally, I think this is one of the hardest things to do. It's so easy to see what's wrong with others, but when it's time to look at your own actions, it's different. As far as behaviour is concerned, your own behaviour is the norm. So how does one discover which behaviour of yours actually isn't the norm? Can't help you there.
Then comes changing your behaviour. Which means you have to do certains things exactly opposite to what was normal to you and what has worked for you. As difficult as recognising a flaw in your behaviour was already, changing bad behaviour is even harder. I'm not ashamed to admit that most of the time, I'm not too good at this, though sometimes I do it right. But honestly, I don't know many people that can do this well.

(I'm saying "you" and "your", but of course, I'm talking about people in general)

In short, you're telling people to behave differently (which is very bloody difficult) and you're doing this by forcing them in defensive mode ("you're doing this wrong!"). I'm not saying you're absolutely wrong in your assertions either, I'm just describing your tactics in conveying your message. And I will readily admit that I do this too, even though it's not a very effective tactic (changing behaviour is so difficult )
Cueshark's video was clever in that he conveys his message differently. A noob is you (or mablak, or komo, or anubis, or random00), a couple of years ago. Please treat him/her the way others treated you when you were learning and when you were taught by others. That noob may turn out to be the next champion of worms.

It's a positive message. People usually bypass negative messages in large circles (unless they're really angry and already agree with the message before it was uttered).

If you think all of this is bullshit, just think how much effect "you are focusing too much on the negative things!" has had on you I can locate the thread for you if you want.