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TheKomodo:
@skunk3

Personally speaking, my opinions have absolutely nothing to do with what is socially acceptable, as I for the most part don't care what people think about me personally. A lot of the things I do, read, laugh about in life would make so many other people extremely uncomfortable, that doesn't mean to think they are weak, because understanding that we are not all similar, that we all have a different path in life, different genetics, different influences, different reactions, and many other different traits, is important and I try to respect that.

Not to mention i've had these views and opinions before the internet even started picking up momentum as a powerful interactive social media entity, i've never found it acceptable to act in such a selfish manner.

If you don't care if anyone gets offended or not, that's your choice, and while you might think that makes you tough or whatever, others will view you as a selfish and inconsiderate person.

The fact you label good manners, respect and kindness for others as such things like "wokeism" and "being a social justice warrior" is hilarious, these common values of caring and respecting your fellow man are shared around the world and have been around before even electricity was discovered and really have nothing to do with either of those labels.

I'm not religious but, I mean, look at the first lessons written in pretty much all bibles. "Respect thy neighbour".(The point here being the bible is VERY old, so these morals are not simply associated with trends on the internet in the year 2020+)

We are not born with toxic, negative personalities, we are not born racist, homophobic, bigoted, we are taught those things(if we are unfortunate, in my opinion), in fact, we humans are born with only 2 innate universal fears, the fear of loud sounds and a fear of falling. Feeling good feels good so i'd rather teach people positive traits rather than negative ones.

Anyway, MonkeyIsland is spot on when he says this website, and more specifically the off topic forum should be used for harmless(vanilla) subjects.

Just because most of the playerbase you interact with are adults doesn't mean there are not any children and adolescents currently active. If you don't care you may possibly have a negative impact on them, make them feel negative in any way, well frankly that's your right, nobody can forcefully change your behaviour, however that doesn't mean we should all feel the way you do and go around not giving a f**k if we hurt people, and of course you will be subject to scrutiny and judgement, just as we are from your side.

You look at people who care as weak, where as I believe it takes more courage and strength to openly show you care about stuff in todays world and put yourself out there, tell people how you really feel than keep it all locked up and act like you don't care because more often than not you will get shot down for being open and honest, people will try to take advantage of you, so someone who can put themselves out there has qualities I personally admire. Personally I think people who share your perspective(purely in this subject, not as an overall entity) as having primitive qualities in the evolution of the human mind.

nino:
Maybe we should have political forum for krandie!

Just an idea!

 ;D ;D

nino:

--- Quote from: MonkeyIsland on February 24, 2021, 08:47 AM ---Freedom of speech is defined at the government level. It simply means you won't get arrested for expressing yourself. This website is personal and pretty much my territory. It's completely free. There's not one single Ad on it either. I don't owe it to anyone. I can run it however I want with any policy that I like. It has nothing to do with free speech. You are invited to my "house" and if I ask you to take your shoes off before entering, you have to get along with that. (if you still want to come in of course)

TUS is an international website with one concern: supporting W:A players.  I don't want off-topic controversial topics to be discussed. In your own country you can't come to a common conclusion with your own nation. Imagine this is an international website. Members come from different countries, cultures, races, ages, genders, languages etc...

Even though we have an off topic forum, but it is still a W:A website and in my opinion it should  be used for harmless (vanilla) subjects. I'm an adult and I can deal with many subjects but would you refer a 13-years-old to TUS as the main W:A community? Can they handle controversial topics? or let's ask a better question: Is it really necessary to come to a Worms website and read unrelated controversial comments? My answer is no and since it is my house, then "no" it is.

If you like to discuss these subjects, I'm pretty sure you can find far more better forums out there than "a 20+ year old game of cartoon worms blowing each other up with ridiculous weapons" forums.

(I have modified your post and cut the second half for obvious reasons. You tend to post the same concept any time you get a chance. I strongly suggest you to find the appropriate site/community for discussing those)

--- End quote ---


This made me remember about something happened when i was around 15..i was travelling with my dad by car and my dad stoped on a gas station to pick man friend of him and give a ride.. in the road my dad started to smoke in his car and the man started to complain, my dad just stoped the car, and said go away then it is my car and u know i smoke , get a bus then bye ae... huahaua

simple ae cos king!

skunk3:

--- Quote from: MonkeyIsland on February 24, 2021, 08:47 AM ---Freedom of speech is defined at the government level. It simply means you won't get arrested for expressing yourself. This website is personal and pretty much my territory. It's completely free. There's not one single Ad on it either. I don't owe it to anyone. I can run it however I want with any policy that I like. It has nothing to do with free speech. You are invited to my "house" and if I ask you to take your shoes off before entering, you have to get along with that. (if you still want to come in of course)

TUS is an international website with one concern: supporting W:A players.  I don't want off-topic controversial topics to be discussed. In your own country you can't come to a common conclusion with your own nation. Imagine this is an international website. Members come from different countries, cultures, races, ages, genders, languages etc...

Even though we have an off topic forum, but it is still a W:A website and in my opinion it should  be used for harmless (vanilla) subjects. I'm an adult and I can deal with many subjects but would you refer a 13-years-old to TUS as the main W:A community? Can they handle controversial topics? or let's ask a better question: Is it really necessary to come to a Worms website and read unrelated controversial comments? My answer is no and since it is my house, then "no" it is.

If you like to discuss these subjects, I'm pretty sure you can find far more better forums out there than "a 20+ year old game of cartoon worms blowing each other up with ridiculous weapons" forums.

(I have modified your post and cut the second half for obvious reasons. You tend to post the same concept any time you get a chance. I strongly suggest you to find the appropriate site/community for discussing those)

--- End quote ---

No, freedom of speech is a natural right, not a privilege granted by authority.

As far as this site being yours, sure it is. You can enforce any rules you want, and I am not obligated to participate. The fact that you are censoring/editing my posts indicates to me that this isn't the place for me. I have no idea who you are and I'm not sure if I have ever once seen you on WormNET (despite the fact that I've been around since day one), so the whole situation irks me.

As far as some random 13-year-old coming to this website, I am sure that they have encountered far worse on the internet. They also are not compelled to read posts and replies in an off-topic subforum, but I digress. It doesn't matter.

skunk3:

--- Quote from: Komito on February 24, 2021, 12:44 PM ---@skunk3

Personally speaking, my opinions have absolutely nothing to do with what is socially acceptable, as I for the most part don't care what people think about me personally. A lot of the things I do, read, laugh about in life would make so many other people extremely uncomfortable, that doesn't mean to think they are weak, because understanding that we are not all similar, that we all have a different path in life, different genetics, different influences, different reactions, and many other different traits, is important and I try to respect that.

Not to mention i've had these views and opinions before the internet even started picking up momentum as a powerful interactive social media entity, i've never found it acceptable to act in such a selfish manner.

If you don't care if anyone gets offended or not, that's your choice, and while you might think that makes you tough or whatever, others will view you as a selfish and inconsiderate person.

The fact you label good manners, respect and kindness for others as such things like "wokeism" and "being a social justice warrior" is hilarious, these common values of caring and respecting your fellow man are shared around the world and have been around before even electricity was discovered and really have nothing to do with either of those labels.

I'm not religious but, I mean, look at the first lessons written in pretty much all bibles. "Respect thy neighbour".(The point here being the bible is VERY old, so these morals are not simply associated with trends on the internet in the year 2020+)

We are not born with toxic, negative personalities, we are not born racist, homophobic, bigoted, we are taught those things(if we are unfortunate, in my opinion), in fact, we humans are born with only 2 innate universal fears, the fear of loud sounds and a fear of falling. Feeling good feels good so i'd rather teach people positive traits rather than negative ones.

Anyway, MonkeyIsland is spot on when he says this website, and more specifically the off topic forum should be used for harmless(vanilla) subjects.

Just because most of the playerbase you interact with are adults doesn't mean there are not any children and adolescents currently active. If you don't care you may possibly have a negative impact on them, make them feel negative in any way, well frankly that's your right, nobody can forcefully change your behaviour, however that doesn't mean we should all feel the way you do and go around not giving a f**k if we hurt people, and of course you will be subject to scrutiny and judgement, just as we are from your side.

You look at people who care as weak, where as I believe it takes more courage and strength to openly show you care about stuff in todays world and put yourself out there, tell people how you really feel than keep it all locked up and act like you don't care because more often than not you will get shot down for being open and honest, people will try to take advantage of you, so someone who can put themselves out there has qualities I personally admire. Personally I think people who share your perspective(purely in this subject, not as an overall entity) as having primitive qualities in the evolution of the human mind.

--- End quote ---

Obviously people are going to be quite different in general. However, my point is simple: being offended by something that you read on the internet, that is not personally directed towards yourself, is weak. Not liking something is one thing. Being offended is a choice, and being offended by something impersonal is a stupid choice.

Am I selfish? Not at all. Inconsiderate? I'd argue no. I'm just honest. If I honestly express myself on a particular topic and my words are seen as harsh or even hateful, am I being inconsiderate? Should I just say nothing at all any time someone might not like what I have to say? What about all of the bullshit nonsense I see and hear from other people on a daily basis (IRL and not) that *is* deemed socially acceptable? Should I expect them to keep their thoughts to their selves also, or is it okay for them to say whatever dumb shit they want because it's 'politically correct'? Should I cry about how they are being inconsiderate of me?

I have no issue with respect, kindness, and manners. I fully support those ideals. However, that is not to say that some topics need to be frankly addressed. You can't leave a wound to fester. You have to clean and treat it, or problems will spread.

When it comes to the notion of "respecting" your fellow man, that doesn't mean openly accepting everything they do and support. In a modern context I can see how people might see it that way, but back in those days all it meant was not f@#!ing each other other by killing, stealing, raping, etc. Basic codes of conduct that are conducive to a somewhat safe and prosperous society, in other words. However, that being said, they surely were not taking into account the kind of deviancy and degeneracy that plagues us today and there is a lot of scriptural evidence out there to back that assertion up. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is one such example.

As far as not being born with prejudice, that is absolutely true. However, people aren't just taught prejudice, it is also learned if that makes sense. People can have very different ideals than their parents or primary social group. They can come to their own conclusions based upon their own experiences and studies. In many cases, views that are seen as 'fringe' are typically labeled as such by the masters of the society because they aren't helpful in regards to furthering their social conditioning goals... not because they are objectively wrong or arguably immoral. Do you not see the globalist agenda going on? Do you not see the intentional, methodical destruction of tradition and identity that is happening? Doesn't matter.

You talk about courage. What takes more courage - openly expressing unpopular opinions or expressing opinions that are supported and championed by corporations, social media, and scripted mainstream news? Get real man. Nobody is 'brave' for being a deviant these days. They are celebrated, for f@#!'s sake! It's a popularity contest, and they are winning. The more of a weirdo you are, the cooler you are and the more you can cash in those woke tokens for clout and social manipulation. It takes waaaaaay more courage and balls to speak up and say what is unpopular.

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