Bot for Newbies on #AG. We need a pro to write IT !!!!!

Hussar · February 21, 2015, 11:34 PM

help bot is helping ONLY if write !HELP

we talking about spam bot who will give the few important information about wa...
this is a way different thing so dont blame this idea if u wont kurwa help with this....

Thumps up boys, what help do u need?

MeTonaTOR · February 22, 2015, 12:18 AM

Can i somehow help you in coding this bot?

Tomi · February 22, 2015, 07:47 AM

Ye, the problem with help bot is that it is invisible for users.. i mean i guess 97% of people don't now about it and 2% of the remaining 3 can't use it, because they don't know what they are looking for.

Our plan is to make a bot which tells you the basics (it would greet newbies and would send a link where the new player can find the info on his own language).

Btw StepS: is it possible to modify help bot? Is it yours?

Zexorz: ye we should find some parts of the software where we could work together. Btw can we run .net code on your server? Then the irc part could be copy paster from great snooper's source code.

In my opinion this bot can be written in a day or two, so I think the main task of this project is to make that helper topic somewhere and to translate it into some languages. Who will give it a first try?

And where should we make it? Here on tus forums or on worms2d.info? Here I think we would need a subforum to allow some people to modify the post if it is needed, on worms2d.info anyone could modify the text, coz it's like wikipedia.

Aerox · February 22, 2015, 10:12 AM

Quote from: Tomi on February 22, 2015, 07:47 AM
Ye, the problem with help bot is that it is invisible for users.. i mean i guess 97% of people don't now about it and 2% of the remaining 3 can't use it, because they don't know what they are looking for.

Our plan is to make a bot which tells you the basics (it would greet newbies and would send a link where the new player can find the info on his own language).

Btw StepS: is it possible to modify help bot? Is it yours?

Zexorz: ye we should find some parts of the software where we could work together. Btw can we run .net code on your server? Then the irc part could be copy paster from great snooper's source code.

In my opinion this bot can be written in a day or two, so I think the main task of this project is to make that helper topic somewhere and to translate it into some languages. Who will give it a first try? And where should we make it? Here on tus forums or on worms2d.info? Here I think we would need a subforum to allow some people to modify the post if it is needed, on worms2d.info anyone could modify the text, coz it's like wikipedia.

99% don't care is more accurate

if i was new to a game I'd never use a lobby bot, too confusing. I'd use google.

Senator · February 22, 2015, 01:56 PM

Quote from: StepS on February 21, 2015, 05:09 PM
Instead of creating a new bot let's discuss how to improve the current Help bot to be more attractive to visitors of #AnythingGoes.

Already discussed

Quote from: Senator on January 30, 2015, 11:56 AM
Could use current Help bot for this. CyberShadow controls it, right? Similar automated message like on #Help channel would not require much work I guess. Compared to Help channel, the message would include answers to most important questions (hosting, snoopers, TUS sites etc).

I think the spam message should direct new players to learn Classic league schemes and register at TUS (an example attached).

I sent PM to CyberShadow about Help bot a while ago but he didn't answer.

MeTonaTOR · February 22, 2015, 03:48 PM

Quote from: Tomi on February 22, 2015, 07:47 AM
Zexorz: ye we should find some parts of the software where we could work together. Btw can we run .net code on your server? Then the irc part could be copy paster from great snooper's source code.

Yes. using MONO Framework (http://www.mono-project.com/) (since is linux)

However. What about greeting on first join in wormnet (as database can be used SQLite) so will not spam user everytime he joins #AG (and as privmsg to user. avoiding flood channel)?

StepS · February 22, 2015, 04:29 PM

Quote from: Berria on February 21, 2015, 11:34 PM
help bot is helping ONLY if write !HELP

Yes. So tell me what has to be improved in the Help bot so I could make it more helpful to newcomers.

Hussar · February 22, 2015, 07:21 PM

We need a bot who will send automatically ONE message to everyone who will join AG#.

Tomi · February 22, 2015, 07:40 PM

Btw i would do it like this: at the end of the message would be a sentence like this: "write 'no' in private message if you don't want to get this message when you join #ag." And then the bot would save that into a database as ZexorZ said.

Aerox · February 23, 2015, 10:45 AM

"we need"

no we don't.

we don't need a spam bot.

Your willingness to help negates your abilitiy to be useful.

We don't need a spam bot to tell people that there's guides out there about the game. People don't care. And those who care, those who have played games before are totally aware of google and don't need a spam bot to influence them to use it.

This whole idea is literally gratuite.

edit: please do a matchmaker when you're done with this!

Hussar · February 23, 2015, 11:14 AM

Guys will do it no matter what will u say cause the goal is worth it.

The messeage will show up just once so it wont affect on nothing and will not disturb at all.

AM sure that all noticed ur words and all knows that u are against now even if they dont care.

Maciej · February 23, 2015, 11:43 AM

IMO idea with writing command NO is better than showing message only once. I believe some ppl join AG just to play with friends and don't care what bots write to them. They will read it maybe the next time they join AG? Anyway, we will have certainty they read whole message if they type NO.

People often ask why nobody can join their games. We can write about HostingBuddy, WormNAT2 module or opening ports. (optional of course, to not make this message too long, for example, at the end of the message write 'type HOST to learn how create a game')

I think it's worth to add something like 'You have only 1 second for turn!' near the explanation for Hysteria. People won't be startled when they join the game or it can even make them interested to see 1 second game.

And I've been always wondering why channels show who joined the channel, who left it, who hosted the game. Messages disappear so quickly by moving up. Don't you think it may be a problem?

MeTonaTOR · February 23, 2015, 12:29 PM

Got another nice idea. Multilanguage support (coz not everyone understand english so well)
How to detect? [13:28:41] Zexorz is ~UC@no.address.for.you * 37 11 PL HexChat
(NICK is ~CLAN(or_Username)@no.address.for.you * Numerical_Country Rank Country Snooper/IRC)

Senator · February 23, 2015, 01:02 PM

Quote from: Aerox on February 23, 2015, 10:45 AM
"we need"

no we don't.

we don't need a spam bot.

Your willingness to help negates your abilitiy to be useful.

We don't need a spam bot to tell people that there's guides out there about the game. People don't care. And those who care, those who have played games before are totally aware of google and don't need a spam bot to influence them to use it.

This whole idea is literally gratuite.

edit: please do a matchmaker when you're done with this!

It doesn't have to be ground-breaking idea if it takes only little effort to implement. Even little positive effect is welcome.

Newcomers are told they should try Shopper rather than Mole Shopper. They are also informed about a league site if they are up for competitive gaming. Can't go wrong with that.

P.S. Stats showed that a matchmaker would work if it only was on TUS sites

Quote from: Maciej on February 23, 2015, 11:43 AM
And I've been always wondering why channels show who joined the channel, who left it, who hosted the game. Messages disappear so quickly by moving up. Don't you think it may be a problem?

Well, people can always scroll up to read the message.

Quote from: ZexorZ on February 23, 2015, 12:29 PM
Got another nice idea. Multilanguage support (coz not everyone understand english so well)
How to detect? [13:28:41] Zexorz is ~UC@no.address.for.you * 37 11 PL HexChat
(NICK is ~CLAN(or_Username)@no.address.for.you * Numerical_Country Rank Country Snooper/IRC)

Help bot already recognizes user's country so yes, the message could be translated to several languages if wanted..

Let's wait if StepS can do this spam message with Help bot.

Tomi · April 12, 2015, 11:02 AM

So do anyone care about this?

what about doing something?

I think all we need to do is making a community with a private board and we can start to make threads

Anyone in? I think we need 2-3 players who can maintain the base english text and 1-1 player who will translate it into his/her language.