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Worms: Armageddon => General discussion => Topic started by: avirex on December 31, 2016, 04:47 PM
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wwp>wa
damn faaaaking right!!!!!!!!!! i never understood why people get back to wa, thats why i had 3 year break when it happend, now its obvious coz well better developed after all this patches, but couldnt had it did to wwp instead?
i played wwp for a short time, but i do not remember it that well... so im curious...
why do you like wwp better? i understand why husk would like it more, because there was a couple more weaps, and nice missions, etc.
but why do you prefer wwp redi?? if im not mistaken, the roping was slightly slower.. and the ropes were super long? no????
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they weren't just missions that came with the game, u could create ur own single- and multiplayer missions and play them online with any1, co-op or head to head
we have hundreds of schemes and thousands of maps now here in wa, but if all these years wwp was the shit, we would have thousands of custom missions aswell...
but we have 0 |:
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the gameplay was exactly the same
wormpot allowed some interesting multiplayer modes like "points for weapons" or quality of life improvements such as sticky mode on warmers. But beyond that, the moment you could minimize in WA the latter became a much superior game.
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yeah was something like minimizing too difficult to make for wwp?
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...the moment you could minimize in WA the latter became a much superior game.
I shit you not I am hesitating to stop playing Skyrim and go with Skyrim SE because you can actually Alt+Tab properly. xD
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WWP's pot was good.
The menu works faster and you can minimize, that's the sole reason WA won AFAIK.
Definitely after the patches.
Custom missions are only popular if you can't make them :x
I think only a handful were made when WWP was popular for a little while.
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I'd prefer if it was WWP that got all the patches instead of W:A, but things have turned out the other way and we can't do much about it. I've heard that W:A 4.0 would allow to play WWP missions if the user owns WWP CD, or something like that, but 4.0 isn't going to happen anytime soon.
i understand why husk would like it [WWP] more, because there was a couple more weaps
PC versions of W:A and WWP always had an identical set of weapons.
if im not mistaken, the roping was slightly slower..
uhm... no?
and the ropes were super long?
Wasn't that just an option, like TestStuff is in W:A?
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they weren't just missions that came with the game, u could create ur own single- and multiplayer missions and play them online with any1, co-op or head to head
we have hundreds of schemes and thousands of maps now here in wa, but if all these years wwp was the shit, we would have thousands of custom missions aswell...
but we have 0 |:
really don't think custom missions would be as popular as scheme based maps. your predictions of 'thousands' or user missions is a bit obtuse, it would be like the PX community, very small and very few maps made.
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i really liked wwp :) when it was busy shame no1 plays it now
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anyways, its literally the same game, if team17 made some additional weapons and content from W:A to WWP, WWP would be the one updated. Instead they sold a full price game with the content of a 5$ add-on pack. f@#! WWP I say, I was cheated out of my money, would not play again.
if WA never existed, it would be a different story, but WWP was t17 giving me and the community the middle finger, im glad it was never updated.
WWP was one of the most disappointing games I've ever played, everyone had such high hopes for it when it came out, but hours after everyone got online they realized that it was repackaged shit.
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Instead they sold a full price game with the content of a 5$ add-on pack.
And they seem to be doing the same ever since.
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And they seem to be doing the same ever since.
Proof? Or just playin' on sentiments?
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And they seem to be doing the same ever since.
Proof? Or just playin' on sentiments?
Why would you ask for proof, it's an impression. Most worms-themed game they came out with seems the same to me, just the graphics get pimped a bit from time to time.
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they weren't just missions that came with the game, u could create ur own single- and multiplayer missions and play them online with any1, co-op or head to head
we have hundreds of schemes and thousands of maps now here in wa, but if all these years wwp was the shit, we would have thousands of custom missions aswell...
but we have 0 |:
really don't think custom missions would be as popular as scheme based maps. your predictions of 'thousands' or user missions is a bit obtuse, it would be like the PX community, very small and very few maps made.
but it is not, pretty much everyone i played wwp with had tried making custom mission or two, and i only played wwp 2 years... so imagine if all these years all the content creators who make awesome schemes and maps, had also made missions
we r talking about all the map makers who posted maps for wmdb... i'm sure any1 who ever made maps, would be interested to get into making their own missions, but u don't know what u want unless u try it... like u said wa players getting mad at t17 for selling wa (with bonus features) as full prices game so ofc they missed out because they didn't like wwp to begin with
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Even if there wouldn't be missions as much as maps, still it would be a nice thing to have. For example TCB, it is such a cool shit, now imagine that with mission feature of WWP, now that would be sick.
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nah triad, let's debate if it is thousands or hundreds
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I played WWP until it died and I never met someone who told me to play his custom mission
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nah triad, let's debate if it is thousands or hundreds
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yeah I guess u were into clanners back then, but I enjoyed the custom missions, so much creative stuff people put into them
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Why would you ask for proof, it's an impression. Most worms-themed game they came out with seems the same to me, just the graphics get pimped a bit from time to time.
It goes by the same principle, but what series of a game doesn't? Battlefield1 is still the same idea as 1942, but it's a great game.
Worms Revolution (2.5d, classes, water) and WMD (vehicles, crafting, etc.) add unique features that are worthy of a stand-alone sequel. Whether they are as good as WA is a different discussion, but I don't think it's fair to say they are all basically the same.
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Why would you ask for proof, it's an impression. Most worms-themed game they came out with seems the same to me, just the graphics get pimped a bit from time to time.
It goes by the same principle, but what series of a game doesn't? Battlefield1 is still the same idea as 1942, but it's a great game.
Worms Revolution (2.5d, classes, water) and WMD (vehicles, crafting, etc.) add unique features that are worthy of a stand-alone sequel. Whether they are as good as WA is a different discussion, but I don't think it's fair to say they are all basically the same.
So, out of 10-odd, that's 2 titles adding something significant to the gameplay.
I've never played Battlefield, but I can, for example, relate to Need for Speed or COD. And I feel the same about them. While there's some nice additions to those series, most of the sequels are very similar, even fans are saying this (at least about COD, not sure about NfS).
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When WWP came out, I thought it was better than WA at 1st, the Rope was slightly different and I preferred it.
As a few others have stated the fact you couldn't minimize WWP is what killed it for me, especially when you play schemes where what the opponent does isn't important.
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WWP missions were really hard :D
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I played WWP until it died and I never met someone who told me to play his custom mission
Maybe you never met Metrophobo from the Spanish clan LAW, he did some cool and crazy wxw missions.
For me and some wwp guys not being able to minimize the game was what made it so special and cherished. We had to pay attention and focus on the game and chat. In wa I cant play a game without minimizing to browse some silly webpages or music.
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I played WWP until it died and I never met someone who told me to play his custom mission
Maybe you never met Metrophobo from the Spanish clan LAW, he did some cool and crazy wxw missions.
For me and some wwp guys not being able to minimize the game was what made it so special and cherished. We had to pay attention and focus on the game and chat. In wa I cant play a game without minimizing to browse some silly webpages or music.
holy shit this
^^^^^^^^^^^^ x10000
people just play and barely read the chat anymore
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the Rope was slightly different and I preferred it.
it was exactly the same
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It wasnt...
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it was and it has been proven many times, the code is identical
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it was and it has been proven many times, the code is identical
nope!!
the rope was slower in wwp, i switched very often daily between wwp and w:a back in 2005 and there was a different...
it was similar to change from WMD to WA (like WA to WWP), WMD is much faster! even if t17says that the code for the roping is the same.
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it was and it has been proven many times, the code is identical
nope!!
the rope was slower in wwp, i switched very often daily between wwp and w:a back in 2005 and there was a different...
it was similar to change from WMD to WA (like WA to WWP), WMD is much faster! even if t17says that the code for the roping is the same.
simple solution to this, ask CS/DC
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It's the same code, just few tweaks here and there.
Or, it's same code, just game physics are slightly different making the rope act/feel different.
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physics are code
I discussed this same topic to lengths ages ago. In the end I figured it had to do with frame rate or a different speed in reading keyboard inputs. Nope
fact remains, it's the exact same and the rope behaves exactly the same and this has been confirmed many times by different people including Cybershadow
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Ok, can you prove it?
Something is making it different...
It's definitely different... Somehow...
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yes I guess I can prove it, but that's too much hassle just for chit chat, you're going to have to take my word for it like a grown up man
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I call hoax, it's different.
It takes an above average roper such as myself to understand the fine difference between a WA rope and a WWP rope.
(http://www.bttoronto.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/12/0901trump.jpg)
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(https://s27.postimg.org/wxovheoyb/tim_deal_with_it.jpg)
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Aerox you spent a chunky portion of your life here hunting people to argue with, prove it or it's another bullsh*t post.
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The rope is the same, it's the input code that did weird things, which caused it "not to be the same", such as "framedrops" of keypresses.
WA and WWP ropes are identical at their code base. The physics are the same. Worms2 is the only one that's different, and in many ways. Also note that the "improved rope" feature of RubberWorm only simulates a very small part of the Worms2 rope (such as angle and acceleration), and not its unique physics.
I was initially going to reply after Aerox's first comment, but I hoped the thread would calm down on its own. Seems like I have to post this as there's still lots of misinformation in the air.
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you spent a chunky portion of your life here hunting people to argue with
Really? xddd
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The rope is the same, it's the input code that did weird things, which caused it "not to be the same".misinformation in the air.
I was sure it was along these lines, cuz I remember when WWP came out they said they used the same code, but it acts differently, never knew what it was.
By the way, in future, if you know the truth, please don't hesitate to jump in :)
I'd still like an article by Team17 or something if possible just to confirm, but yeah.
And all I meant by that is Aerox spends so much time telling people they are wrong I thought he would take the opportunity to actually prove it for once :/
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Komodo when you want to post, try and post the opposite of what youre thinking that way hopefuly youll get something right for the first time. Also listen to those that know way more than you on particular subjects
when WWP came out Team17 got tired of announcing it was a totally different code done from scratch. Theyre not a valid source nor are they the ones who confirmed all this.
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Ah whatever, i'm done lol, wish we could just have a laugh like we used to when we were young...
Arguing over game physics n stuff all the time, doesn't even make a difference who is right anyway, this is ridiculous...
I bet there are so many things we could relate to together if this petty crap stopped.