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Game #216038, reported by Senator, Viewed 3371 Time(s)

Classic #54
Clanners
December 23, 2016, 10:20 PM
Winner
Beginner 1130 in Roper before the game. Gained 55|55 points
Loser
dt
Average 1493 in Roper before the game. Lost 50|55 points
  

Game Rate
5 / 5
Total Members Voted: 1
Players history
6 - 9
108 - 202
13 - 29
423 - 682
Information Game scheme: Roper
Scheme pick: Winner's pick
Watch The Game Replay(s):
Downloaded 495 time(s).
Game Awards
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Game Map(s)

Map16 by Mablak
1920 x 696, BIT, 3.06 KB, Downloaded 8326 time(s)


franzroper23 by franz
1920 x 696, BIT, 2.27 KB, Downloaded 8271 time(s)

Game Chat(s)
[tit4] I hate easy maps
[tit4] hf
[TdC`Senator] hf
[tit4] heyy
[tit4] damnnn
[tit4] f@#! shit
[dt-freee] n fd lol
[tit4] weeeee
[TdC`Senator] aw
[tit4] bl
[tit4] voltage
[tit4] voltage team
[tit4] f@#!
[tit4] nice
[TdC`Senator] t
[TdC`Senator] g1
[dt-freee] tx
[tit4] ty
[TdC`Senator] lol
[tit4] sorry
[tit4] damn
[dt-freee] ffs
[dt-freee] well mayb better i didnt hit
[dt-freee] pile should atleast though
[dt-freee] gj pile
[TdC`Senator] t
[dt-freee] 0k
[dt-freee] sepä oli somee
[dt-freee] somaa*
[dt-freee] no hitto
[dt-freee] menkää ag ja rh knightzin kans jos titaki o
[dt-freee] mul menee 20 min

[tit4] weee
[TdC`Senator] finally
[voltage`TdC] hf
[TdC`Senator] hf
[tit4] hf
[dt-freee] yes it "matters" but it doesnt matter that much to keep restarting and wasting nerves
[tit4] xD
[TdC`Senator] didnt expect tita would drop
[tit4] wasn't a drop i guess.
[dt-freee] well who did
[tit4] just bug
[dt-freee] pilkunnussija senaattori
[TdC`Senator] whatever xd
[TdC`Senator] vn
[voltage`TdC] ns!
[tit4] nice
[dt-freee] huahu
[tit4] pro
[tit4] :D
[dt-freee] monstro
[tit4] i'm a shit today
[tit4] sorry
[tit4] my 1st game
[TdC`Senator] lool
[dt-freee] omg
[dt-freee] gj
[tit4] xD
[tit4] 25
[tit4] damn
[tit4] poor
[TdC`Senator] it's raper after all
[TdC`Senator] see
[dt-freee] i almost hit all the f and number keys i wanted lol
[tit4] :x
[dt-freee] :D
[voltage`TdC] lol :D
[TdC`Senator] sry
[voltage`TdC] np
[dt-freee] rofl
[tit4] :)
[TdC`Senator] uh
[voltage`TdC] oops
[TdC`Senator] at least tita gets hit
[dt-freee] tita wtf xD
[tit4] idk what to do
[dt-freee] well dont attack me? :D
TdC`Senator..voltage`TdC: ei pileee
[tit4] I think it's fair, you are attacking me, and I'm doing the same
TdC`Senator..voltage`TdC: no ei oo suurta merkityst��
[tit4] xD
[tit4] hard crate
[tit4] aee
[dt-freee] i attack pile u attack me cos puto
[tit4] miss
[tit4] :D
[tit4] sorry ae
[dt-freee] tdc`tita :(
[tit4] easy crate now
[TdC`Senator] ya tita is really a rat
[dt-freee] snake in the grass
[dt-freee] :D
[tit4] ;/
[tit4] i'm not ok to play roper atm
[TdC`Senator] jaa cratet alkaa tasottuu
[TdC`Senator] ois pitäny olla kusematta paria vuoroo tossa
[TdC`Senator] nii ois jo ohi
[tit4] gg
[TdC`Senator] mierda
[TdC`Senator] huh
[tit4] wasn't my plan to play roper now
[tit4] )
[TdC`Senator] usually u warm up before clanner?
[TdC`Senator] xd
[tit4] lol
[tit4] nope
[tit4] I never played in all my life a warmer
[dt-freee] trix
[tit4] never
[dt`blitz] More all?
[TdC`Senator] nice "accident" for top hide?
[dt-freee] im gonna keep a break, can't stand this laggish now
[tit4] gg
TdC`Senator..voltage`TdC: free ois ollu parempi tappaa :D
TdC`Senator..voltage`TdC: mut eik��h�� mee n��inki
TdC`Senator..voltage`TdC: sill�� perusteella siis et se pelaa paremmin
TdC`Senator..voltage`TdC: ku ei ollu hp:lla v��li��
[dt-freee] gg
[VoK`TdCEad] gg
[voltage`TdC] gg
[TdC`Senator] gg

Author Topic: Game #216038, reported by Senator  (Read 3451 times)

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Offline Senator

Game #216038, reported by Senator
« on: December 23, 2016, 10:21 PM »
tita dropped and Free had to go. Let's finish it with handicaps another day.

Offline avirex

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2016, 12:23 PM »
Well.... what is up lately with people reporting games when someone does not have time for the last game, or net drops, and cant get back online, or whatever the case??

just wondering, because someone else has done it recently too, did not want to ask this question when he did it, or it would have been a 10 post debate.

I thought reporting free wins was reserved for if someone avoids, and you have chat log to prove they avoided you, it then a way to challenge them to the game, and almost forces them to play you, or accept a loss... that seems logical.

but don't think anyone used to report games like this, when someone had to leave early, or whatever...   you just remind the clan the next time you see them, and if they are an honorable clan, it should be no problem getting that game done.

these free win reports are unnecessary imo... the "losing" clan of the free win might not even see the game was reported, or not realize it was a free win... or the "losing" clan may not remember to get the game played, etc.

i think situations like this you should just remind the clan next time you see them, and if they deny you the game, then of course you would have the right to report free win...  anyone else agree with me here??   maybe yes?? maybe no??

so.... regarding the game... senator has a really nice mine drop starting around 5:30.... then free had a nice zooka starting around 7:00... then starting around 8:00 titahemp had vvvnice knock/split from his partner, to pile enemy worms together, then made a nd...but... lol BL tittiez :DD


also, i noticed the health at tita's drop... if he was able to take his turn.. he would collect crate, and make an attack + grave damage + pile... no reason he would not have attacked, his target was on the other end of map, and crate was on top.. so he just had to rope across map one direction.

then healths would be  TITA 85hp piled on 110hp and 62 hp taking turn after tita.

so no handicap would rly be fair... that one turn would change the game from really bad for dt, to almost tied up if you consider turn advantage...... whats your thoughts on that senator?? 


Offline Csongi

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2016, 12:37 PM »
In my opinion these kind of reports are more like a reminder that the game will have to be replayed and not to be forgotten.

Ps.: Nice warmer map! xd
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Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2016, 12:38 PM »
Ye like chongi told. Think point report free / unfinished game reminds play it laiter.

Offline Chelsea

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2016, 12:48 PM »
I think same like Csongi and Vok. Reporting free wins like this is just a reminder.

Offline Senator

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2016, 02:30 PM »
Yeah the point is just to get the game done. Maybe a free win is unnecessary in dt's case but I reported anyway. The rule is "If a player plays his pick but then disappears at your pick, you CAN report free win. But even that free win must be played when that player comes back." You couldn't play (finish) our pick so we had the right to report a free win (and force you to play when you come back).

The game was closer than I initially thought. We had one turn lead when tita dropped

tita attacks the pile and piles my worm after grave explosion -> tita 85, Senator 109, voltage 62
voltage attacks the pile -> tita 38, Senator 62, voltage 82
tita attacks me and piles voltage -> tita 58, Senator 15, voltage 82
I attack the pile -> tita 11, Senator 35, voltage 35
tita attacks either one -> tita 31, Senator/voltage 35
Senator/voltage attacks tita -> tita 0, Senator/voltage 55

edit: I'd suggest a fresh rematch but we start the game.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 02:49 PM by Senator »

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2016, 03:19 PM »
Yesh it's just a reminder nothing bad :)

Online TheWalrus

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2016, 03:36 PM »
Well.... what is up lately with people reporting games when someone does not have time for the last game, or net drops, and cant get back online, or whatever the case??
most of the time the clan will never replay it so freewin is best until replay

Offline avirex

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2016, 07:53 PM »
hmmm.. i guess im the minority on this one.

i just feel like its very easy to forget (and if you were not the type of clan to remind us before our next set of games) you guys would get an undeserved win, and we would get an undeserved loss.

that really is not good for ratings... has anyone thought about that??

i understand that you thought you had a larger lead then you did, and in cases like that.. where you feel you were robbed of a win... i can MAYBE see doing this... but in any other case i just cant....   

i think it would be better to first ask the clan to finish game, before next clanner... if they for some reason refuse, then you can report a free win. (to force the game)

i just feel like if you guys forget to remind us in our next meeting without a free report...  nobody loses anything... its just a simple roper game, that never got finished.

but now that you reported, and we forget to ask you guys next clanner meeting... the points system is f@#!ed up....

in the past, MI was strongly against Free wins, you had to have a damn good reason to post one...  but for whatever reason, the rules are all of a sudden much more relaxed, and free wins are getting tossed around like peja's ass.

maybe im the only one who feels this way though??     please remind us about this game, next time we play, so it does not get forgotten senator :X  thnx.

Online TheWalrus

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2016, 04:12 AM »
i just feel like its very easy to forget (and if you were not the type of clan to remind us before our next set of games) you guys would get an undeserved win, and we would get an undeserved loss.
the onus is on the first clan (who didn't pick) to play the game, rather than the second clan (who did pick)

the way you are suggesting doesn't really make sense, its up to (dt in this situation) to make up the pick, not for tdc to remind dt to make up the pick.

if it doesn't get played right away, it usually never gets played without a free win like senator posted, this way tdc gets its pick for sure.

Offline Senator

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2016, 10:45 AM »
Basically we should play the rematch with the same players (tita & Free vs me & voltage) and I know it's hard to get the same players online at the same time. That's another reason to leave it up to you to arrange the game.. Moreover, if I hadn't reported, the game order could go wrong. We picked Roper in belief we have 1130 points and you have 1493 points (not really :D).

But the game should be played all over again unlike I thought. I think it's better if VoK and I make a new pick (cos voltage isn't online often) and you play whoever you got in the lineup.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2016, 02:10 AM by Senator »

Offline avirex

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2016, 05:20 AM »
Walrus, I don't see how anything I said does not make sense...

Just as you said "if it doesn't get played right away, it usually never gets played"

I don't see how a free win is going to get this game played.

My opinion is games that don't get played right away, usually won't get played because everyone forgets... reporting a free win is not going to improve people's memory.

Its just going to make inaccurate ratings.

MI used to be against free wins for that very reason... Not sure what changed... but apparently some of you support the change.


Don't really care to debate this any more, not that big of a deal, I just wanted to state my opinion on this free win shit.

But on a side note... are you really asking to change pick, after you reported a free win?

No thanks.. a rope game will be fine.



Offline Senator

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2016, 10:19 AM »
I wasn't asking to change the pick, I was just offering you an easier way to get the game done. I'm totally fine with replaying the game when I, voltage, tita and Free are online. We had better take our calendars and agree a date cos voltage is online like once a week..

In previous cases people have been eager to get the free loss out of their record. I'd say that free wins have helped in getting the games done.

The ratings would be inaccurate also without the free win. We would have a loss from your pick and our pick wouldn't be in the stats. For whatever reason you failed to play our pick so it's not totally "undeserved" loss. This is one of the rare cases where free wins have been allowed (when you play the opponent's pick but the opponent doesn't play your pick).

Offline avirex

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2016, 05:36 PM »
don't really want to debate it any more... we all know where my opinions stands, and where the others who have posted here stands... it really does not make much of a difference to me either way... i think the free win thing has some benefits, there is no doubt about that.

do the pro's out weigh the con's??  i don't think so, and in the past MI did not think so either... but i guess some of you think they do... so no point debating it :D


Senator... the free win is reported vs. dt clan...  tdc vs dt...  our roper rating is what it is as a clan, and any other scheme is what it is as a clan.... i don't think you should limit us to what members should play, and i don't think tdc should be limited on what members should play either.

next time dt vs tdc meets for a clanner, we will get this game played, regardless of who is there... if senator, voltage, free, and tita are there... they will move to the front of the line to play... but if not, all that is important is that tdc plays dt in a roper game.

Offline Senator

Re: Game #216038, reported by Senator
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2016, 06:56 PM »
We wouldn't have picked Roper if dibz had been there. And we wouldn't have picked Roper with VoK after losing the first game. We would have picked T17 to make it 1-1. We picked Roper only cos we had voltage and you didn't have the strongest lineup for Roper.

You were losing the game, then dropped and postponed the game. Now you are bringing in stronger players for the rematch? I don't think that's possible like it isn't when avoiding
Avoiding rule:
If someone is avoiding, you must save screen shots as proof and post them in a complaint thread.  Mods will discuss and if they agree, you can report a free win and that gives the avoider one week of time to play that game. In the case of a clan avoiding, only the players online at the time of the avoid can play.

If we do our pick with different players, we will make a new pick.