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Game #228056, reported by giJo, Viewed 674 Time(s)

Free #34
Clanners
August 14, 2021, 10:02 PM
Winner
Beginner 1078 in Battle Race before the game. Gained 34|34 points
Loser
MOLCR
Absolute Beginner 960 in Battle Race before the game. Lost 34|34 points
  

Game Rate
5 / 5
Total Members Voted: 1
Players history
2 - 0
2 - 0
4 - 3
4 - 3
Information Game scheme: Battle Race
Scheme pick: Winner's pick
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Game Chat(s)
[db`giJo`ale] using word girl as an insult lmao
[ZorroX] well, coward then
[db`giJo`ale] if u want, zalo, we can plau ur map as 3rd
[db`giJo`ale] but as said b4, me and kory played almost all the maps
[ZorroX] Gijo, you already said we can pick this map here, I don't see us picking anything :/
[Komito`db`] We are the only active clans lol
[Komito`db`] We shouldn't be arguing lmao
[db`giJo`ale] i also said u can pick both forts and br maps lmao
[ZorroX] then why did Kory feel entitled to choose the map on Forts? giving us the number?
[db`giJo`ale] bro just relax
[ZorroX] sorry
[db`giJo`ale] u r taking it too close
[db`giJo`ale] just have fun
[ZorroX] I am relaxed, you are just not wordy that's all, it's us who make adjustments
[db`giJo`ale] i don't like arguing
[db`giJo`ale] kaos as 3rd mb?
Korydex-db..db`giJo`ale: v pizdu
db`giJo`ale..Korydex-db: :D
[ZorroX] Korydex wears the trousers in your clan anyway, ask him
db`giJo`ale..Korydex-db: mozh mm?
Korydex-db..db`giJo`ale: ne ya vse
db`giJo`ale..Korydex-db: kk
danie..Korydex-db: I know dude... I just dont like arguing just like gijo XD
[db`giJo`ale] not good
Korydex-db..db`giJo`ale: pod sebya nado bylo
Korydex-db..db`giJo`ale: vplotnuyu
[Komito`db`] Kory, you were in that 1v1v1v1v1v1 BR league Wally made yeah?
[Korydex-db] yeh
[Korydex-db] it was pizza btw :)
[Korydex-db] wally got it going
[Komito`db`] Oh it was?
[Komito`db`] Nice
[db`giJo`ale] what is that league?
[Korydex-db] u can checkout in BFW clan forum
[db`giJo`ale] oki t
Korydex-db..db`giJo`ale: ne toropis'
db`giJo`ale..Korydex-db: soryan
Korydex-db..db`giJo`ale: np
[Korydex-db] gj
[db`giJo`ale] t
Komito`db`..Korydex-db: How are 2v2 clanners decided?
Korydex-db..Komito`db`: like always, first two to reach win
[Korydex-db] lag?
[danie] lag :/
Komito`db`..Korydex-db: who had first turn?
Komito`db`..Korydex-db: That sounds weird, so the fact you finished like 4 turns ahead doesn't matter?
Korydex-db..Komito`db`: yea prolly no, i was first
Komito`db`..Korydex-db: In fact, he has double turns now...
Komito`db`..Korydex-db: I imagine he has the advantage then cuz 2 turns to their 1
[Komito`db`] Phew, no plop
Korydex-db..Komito`db`: yea lol
Korydex-db..Komito`db`: tbh havent played clanners b4
Korydex-db..Komito`db`: so ionno clearly
[Komito`db`] Lags
[Korydex-db] yeah it must be wormnat
[db`giJo`ale] br with plops would be awful
[ZorroX] ?
[danie] pff
[ZorroX] it was impossible to avoid their win anyway
[Komito`db`] Home stretch :)
[ZorroX] gg
[danie] gg
[Korydex-db] gg
[db`giJo`ale] gg
[Komito`db`] Gg
db`giJo`ale..Korydex-db: reportnesh?
Korydex-db..db`giJo`ale: ok
[db`giJo`ale] cya
[db`giJo`ale] ty f games
[danie] cya

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Offline Zalo the moler

Game #228056, reported by giJo
« on: August 14, 2021, 11:07 PM »
I know it's not part of the rules. I know that's not how "picks" work but I still wish to upload the conversation that we had just before hosting our pick (Forts, 1st match) with db clan.

Quote
(ZorroX, danie, Korydex, Gijo)
[2021-08-14 20.16.46] [ZorroX] what do you say guys?
[2021-08-14 20.16.55] [Korydex-db] can u w8 5 min plz
[2021-08-14 20.16.57] [ZorroX] sure
[2021-08-14 20.17.04] [ZorroX] choosing a map will take some time
[2021-08-14 20.17.27] [danie] what will we play today?
[2021-08-14 20.17.36] [danie] forts +  ??
[2021-08-14 20.17.39] [ZorroX] Forts + ... maybe battle race?
[2021-08-14 20.17.42] [ZorroX] but the thing is
[2021-08-14 20.17.55] [ZorroX] that these bastards will surely know the battlerace map that they pick
[2021-08-14 20.18.03] [danie] XD
[2021-08-14 20.18.05] [ZorroX] maybe they choose forts map, and we choose battlerace map?
[2021-08-14 20.18.15] [db`giJo`ale] oki
[2021-08-14 20.18.16] [ZorroX] good deal?
[2021-08-14 20.18.17] [db`giJo`ale] lol
[2021-08-14 20.18.17] [ZorroX] okay
[2021-08-14 20.18.28] [ZorroX] well, you guys were too good in the previous map
[2021-08-14 20.18.33] [db`giJo`ale] u can choose both i don't care :d
[2021-08-14 20.18.37] [danie] haha
(choosing maps)
2021-08-14 20.22.25] [ZorroX] nice...
[2021-08-14 20.22.33] [ZorroX] I think?
[2021-08-14 20.22.35] [db`giJo`ale] k
[2021-08-14 20.22.40] [danie] ok
[2021-08-14 20.23.05] [Korydex-db] back
[2021-08-14 20.23.39] [Korydex-db] lel
[2021-08-14 20.23.42] [Korydex-db] try !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.45] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.47] • Sending [11977][BTP] RumbleFort05.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.23.49] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.50] • Sending [3874][TJH] FloralFort.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.23.56] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.57] • Sending [11926][BTP] FortMap07.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 10% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.23.58] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.59] • Sending [3892][TJH] Fort 17.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.01] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.02] • Sending [12003][BTP] dig_Flood Fort Map.bit [ island (map), Manhattan (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.04] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.05] • Sending [3916][yuurepoer] Glaciers.png [ 3840x1392, 97 colours, island (map), Snow (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map), 0 holes (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.07] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.08] • Error with tus-wa.com request: TUS map unusable [2]: Invalid PNG signature
[2021-08-14 20.24.11] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.13] • Sending [11916][BTP] FORT_Ass9_Castle.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.13] [Korydex-db] well this is big one
[2021-08-14 20.24.13] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.14] • Sending [10975][StarJustice] TowersOfNoDRBColor.png [ 1920x696, 5 colours, island (map), Beach (Retro) (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map), 18 holes (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.15] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.16] • Sending [3917][yuurepoer] Volcano Forts.png [ 3840x1392, 97 colours, island (map), Sports (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map), 0 holes (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.21] [Korydex-db] ass9 was good
[2021-08-14 20.24.31] [Korydex-db] !tusmap 11916
[2021-08-14 20.24.32] [ZorroX] how about this one
[2021-08-14 20.24.35] [Korydex-db] its too big
[2021-08-14 20.24.36] [db`giJo`ale] too big
[2021-08-14 20.24.36] [ZorroX] !tusmap 11916
[2021-08-14 20.24.37] • Sending [11916][BTP] FORT_Ass9_Castle.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.25.25] [ZorroX] !start
[2021-08-14 20.25.25] ••• Starting game, recorded as file "User\Games\2021-08-14 20.25.25 [Online] HostingBuddy, danie, @ZorroX, db`giJo`ale, Korydex-db.WAgame"

Dialogue after Forts already ended, when with danie, we headed to their host (their pick, 2nd match)

Quote
(ZorroX, danie, Korydex, Gijo, Komito)
[2021-08-14 21.07.14] [Korydex-db] we pick br
[2021-08-14 21.07.24] [ZorroX] we already discussed that when you were away
[2021-08-14 21.07.38] [ZorroX] in a way that you pick Forts map, and we pick BattleRace map
[2021-08-14 21.07.41] [ZorroX] Gijo agreed
[2021-08-14 21.08.23] [ZorroX] if you use your well known BattleRace map, ones that you have in your folder, then the advantage you have would be huge
[2021-08-14 21.08.55] [db`giJo`ale] lmao bro i played almost all the mapsm what should i do? :D
[2021-08-14 21.09.08] [ZorroX] 22262 battle race map if it's fine
[2021-08-14 21.09.13] [db`giJo`ale] oki
[2021-08-14 21.09.15] [Korydex-db] 1 sec
[2021-08-14 21.09.17] [ZorroX] https://www.wmdb.org/22262
[2021-08-14 21.09.21] [Korydex-db] nah
[2021-08-14 21.09.36] [ZorroX] what nah? we chose your forts map
[2021-08-14 21.09.43] [Korydex-db] its our pick
[2021-08-14 21.09.56] [ZorroX] we already agreed on that bro
[2021-08-14 21.10.01] [ZorroX] there is no discussion now
[2021-08-14 21.10.17] [ZorroX] you woke up too late, should have read what was on the chat
[2021-08-14 21.10.35] [Komito`db`] Zorro - You don't know how Clanners work do you?
[2021-08-14 21.11.26] [ZorroX] Komito, be quiet, we already agreed on choosing our map for their chosen battlerace
[2021-08-14 21.12.03] [Komito`db`] You don't get to decide the map for your opponents pick, did Korydex and giJo allow you to pick the map for them? I highly doubt that lol
[2021-08-14 21.12.08] [ZorroX] we played THEIR map pick for Forts
[2021-08-14 21.12.13] [Komito`db`] You did?
[2021-08-14 21.12.17] [Korydex-db] go or free win
[2021-08-14 21.12.17] [Komito`db`] Did they demand a specific map?
[2021-08-14 21.12.25] [Komito`db`] Or did they request a different map?
[2021-08-14 21.12.29] [ZorroX] They did
[2021-08-14 21.12.29] [Komito`db`] There is a difference
[2021-08-14 21.12.48] [danie] they agreed that in the last game... but I dont know why all this mess
[2021-08-14 21.13.02] [Korydex-db] i didnt agree on anything
[2021-08-14 21.13.11] [ZorroX] Battle Race is strictly connected with how well you know the map
[2021-08-14 21.13.12] [db`giJo`ale] that's true haha
[2021-08-14 21.13.22] [ZorroX] so we said in the previous chat
[2021-08-14 21.13.36] [ZorroX] that they can choose map for Forts, if we get to choose map for BattleRace
[2021-08-14 21.13.39] [ZorroX] Gijo and Danie agreed
[2021-08-14 21.13.42] [danie] ok Gijo said that was ok to choose (you) the fort map while we will be free to pick the battle race
[2021-08-14 21.13.46] [ZorroX] Korydex is unaware of what is happening now
[2021-08-14 21.13.51] [Korydex-db] go or free win
[2021-08-14 21.14.09] [Komito`db`] Zorro
[2021-08-14 21.14.15] [ZorroX] we can report Free win
[2021-08-14 21.14.23] [Korydex-db] wtf are u talking about idiot
[2021-08-14 21.14.31] [ZorroX] because you refuse to choose our map, like you chose our Forts map
[2021-08-14 21.14.38] [Komito`db`] For there to be an agreement ALL PARTIES must specifically state they are accepting the suggestion
[2021-08-14 21.14.49] [ZorroX] we played their pick for Forts map, like we agreed
[2021-08-14 21.15.27] [ZorroX] I literally have Gijo on archive saying he agrees to play in such a way
[2021-08-14 21.15.28] [Korydex-db] if u wont play i wont play u again lmao
[2021-08-14 21.15.35] [ZorroX] Korydex came back, and chose THEIR map for Forts
[2021-08-14 21.15.36] [db`giJo`ale] i actually don't care, i can play on every map lol
[2021-08-14 21.15.40] [ZorroX] (our pick)
[2021-08-14 21.15.51] [Korydex-db] this is some bullshit
[2021-08-14 21.15.54] [db`giJo`ale] that's why i said i don't care
[2021-08-14 21.16.23] [ZorroX] I got the archive I don't care
[2021-08-14 21.16.30] [ZorroX] so choose my map
[2021-08-14 21.16.31] [ZorroX] https://www.wmdb.org/22262
[2021-08-14 21.16.35] [Korydex-db] no
[2021-08-14 21.16.39] [Korydex-db] lets go dude
[2021-08-14 21.16.44] [Korydex-db] dont be a bitch
[2021-08-14 21.16.55] [ZorroX] you have a map, just pick it up, don't be a (censorship)
[2021-08-14 21.16.57] [Korydex-db] or i report free win and never play u again
[2021-08-14 21.17.06] [Komito`db`] *sigh*
[2021-08-14 21.17.09] [ZorroX] we played YOUR MAP
[2021-08-14 21.17.13] [ZorroX] like we all agreed
[2021-08-14 21.17.25] [Komito`db`] Copy and paste all the chat logs
[2021-08-14 21.17.30] [Komito`db`] And I promise you, everyone will prove you wrong
[2021-08-14 21.17.31] [Komito`db`] DO it
[2021-08-14 21.17.32] [ZorroX] I will
[2021-08-14 21.17.33] [Komito`db`] I DARE YOU
[2021-08-14 21.17.40] [Komito`db`] Then once everyone says you are wrong
[2021-08-14 21.17.44] [Komito`db`] Including the TUS League moderators
[2021-08-14 21.17.48] [Komito`db`] Will you accept you are wrong?
[2021-08-14 21.17.50] [ZorroX] Fair enough
[2021-08-14 21.17.54] [Komito`db`] Ok
[2021-08-14 21.18.01] [ZorroX] I will post on Tus
[2021-08-14 21.18.48] [danie] the thing is that Gijo agreed, and if it's your pick I don't see why you dont want to choose our map
[2021-08-14 21.18.58] [danie] is like if you choose any of mole maps
[2021-08-14 21.18.59] [ZorroX] if Korydex is such a (censorship), and he is too scared to play on an unknown map, I will play
[2021-08-14 21.19.02] [danie] I wouldn't care
[2021-08-14 21.19.17] • Game will take advantage of the latest 3.8.1 features and bug fixes
[2021-08-14 21.19.18] ••• Starting game, recorded as file "User\Games\2021-08-14 21.19.18 [Online] Korydex-db, db`giJo`ale, danie, @ZorroX, Komito`db`.WAgame"

I know that verbal agreements are not a thing, but we did want to meet them half-way, considering nobody likes to play our Mole Shopper. Up to now all our clanner picks were discussed prior to avoid surprises. When 2 sides with 1 representative come to an agreement, I thought (it seems like I have been wrong all along), that you just stick to what your colleagues agreed upon. Especially since Korydex specifically gave us a number with the map to select.

As always, I am probably wrong and I should not trust verbal agreements. Ehhh... Either way I did cut off some of the salty exchanges with Komito as they didn't add anything to the case itself.

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #228056, reported by giJo
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2021, 12:45 AM »
The evidence provided by ZorroX shows that:
  • giJo offered MOLE that they can pick both maps.
  • MOLE agreed.
  • Korydex did not agree.
  • Korydex suggested !tusmap.
  • Then you ALL agreed on a map.
The next game, you had no right to demand what map they pick, however, you do have the right to refuse a map and ask for another one:

Quote from: League Rules @ https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/basic-info/#107
Both players/clans need to agree on the map. If you light up, you agree on the map. Using auto-light up is strictly forbidden. If the opponent picks a non-default sized map without informing you, you can still request a normal sized map at the start of the game and interrupt the game. If the scheme has manual worm placement, you must make the request before the first turn of the game. If the scheme has random worm placement, you must make the request before the second turn of the game.

When I said:

Quote from: Komito
Zorro - You don't know how Clanners work do you?

I was assuming and asking at the same time, as I was willing to copy and paste rules for you.

You immediately said something which wasn't true:

Quote from: ZorroX
Komito, be quiet, we already agreed on choosing our map for their chosen battlerace

However, as i've already pointed out, and as you've already provided evidence for, Korydex did not agree.

Last time I checked, Korydex is a member of db, so without his consent, that suggestion is not a confirmed agreement by all participating players.

In future, make sure all participating players of a clan actually agree, before making an incorrect assumption which leads to us all arguing with each other over a misunderstanding.



You and danie are extremely talented TFL players, it would be nice if we can put this in the past and continue to play many more highly skilled games with each other, we are also working on recruiting players who enjoy Mole Shopper so you can enjoy that too with db.





Offline Korydex

Re: Game #228056, reported by giJo
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2021, 08:37 AM »
Especially since Korydex specifically gave us a number with the map to select.
it was one of the random ones
Quote
[2021-08-14 20.23.45] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.47] • Sending [11977][BTP] RumbleFort05.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.23.49] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.50] • Sending [3874][TJH] FloralFort.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.23.56] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.57] • Sending [11926][BTP] FortMap07.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 10% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.23.58] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.59] • Sending [3892][TJH] Fort 17.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.01] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.02] • Sending [12003][BTP] dig_Flood Fort Map.bit [ island (map), Manhattan (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.04] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.05] • Sending [3916][yuurepoer] Glaciers.png [ 3840x1392, 97 colours, island (map), Snow (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map), 0 holes (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.07] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.08] • Error with tus-wa.com request: TUS map unusable [2]: Invalid PNG signature
[2021-08-14 20.24.11] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.13] • Sending [11916][BTP] FORT_Ass9_Castle.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.13] [Korydex-db] well this is big one
[2021-08-14 20.24.13] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.14] • Sending [10975][StarJustice] TowersOfNoDRBColor.png [ 1920x696, 5 colours, island (map), Beach (Retro) (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map), 18 holes (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.15] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.16] • Sending [3917][yuurepoer] Volcano Forts.png [ 3840x1392, 97 colours, island (map), Sports (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map), 0 holes (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.21] [Korydex-db] ass9 was good
[2021-08-14 20.24.31] [Korydex-db] !tusmap 11916
Sorry for rudeness, I didn't agree on you picking map for BR because
Quote
[2021-08-14 20.17.55] [ZorroX] that these bastards will surely know the battlerace map that they pick

Offline Lupastic

Re: Game #228056, reported by giJo
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2021, 02:02 PM »
he only said "these bastards", he could have also said "these f@#!ing noobs" that would hurt more :( :D :D

Offline Korydex

Re: Game #228056, reported by giJo
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2021, 03:19 PM »
he only said "these bastards", he could have also said "these f@#!ing noobs" that would hurt more :( :D :D
I mean he coulda aswell picked maps he knows well. Makes one think even more about it if he was saying that.
I picked a nice and easy map where you don't really have to remember any jumps. There was no reason to change it. And the map he suggested is a challenge map, not suitable for league game.
Anyway I think we can get random map picked in HostingBuddy or something if they don't trust us.

Offline Lupastic

Re: Game #228056, reported by giJo
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2021, 04:06 PM »
I mean he coulda aswell picked maps he knows well. Makes one think even more about it if he was saying that.
I picked a nice and easy map where you don't really have to remember any jumps. There was no reason to change it. And the map he suggested is a challenge map, not suitable for league game.
Anyway I think we can get random map picked in HostingBuddy or something if they don't trust us.

I always pick random maps with hostingbuddy when playing a scheme like that. :) Never a map that I have memorized before (I always like trying new maps, so I never really memorize any of them in any schemes) and I also dislike it a bit when someone wants to pick his own made custom map, or pick a map that he had played on before dozens of time. A new, fresh map for both players.