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Game #233617, reported by Lupastic, Viewed 419 Time(s)

Default #20, Allround #19
Clanners
August 23, 2022, 04:00 PM
Winner
Absolute Beginner 1000 in BnG before the game. Gained 38|38 points more
Loser
AQUA
Absolute Beginner 971 in BnG before the game. Lost 40|38 points more
  

Game Rate
Not rated yet
Players history
1 - 0
1 - 0
6 - 0
6 - 0
Information Game scheme: BnG
Scheme pick: Winner's pick
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Mirrored BnG #19 by XanKriegor, Sensei
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Game Chat(s)
[Lupastic-FS] enjoyz
[Stoner] funxz
[SIBASA] reaim each move
[Lupastic-FS] 1 rule: reaim before every shot
[SIBASA] hf
[Lupastic-FS] yes?
[Lupastic-FS] or anything else? xd
[Stoner] yes always
[SIBASA] штaкeт, нe зaбывaй cбивaть пpицeл пepeд кaждым xoдoм
[Stoner] no direct shots
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: if they hit me I'll change pos ^^
[`Lancy`FS] reaim, yeah
[Stoner] oh f@#!
[Shtaket] lol
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: ty :3 beginners luck :q
[Shtaket] last
[Shtaket] этo пocлeдняя я нa тaкиx yмeльцeв нacмoтpeлcя c 2010 гoдa
`Lancy`FS [any1 translate?]
[SIBASA] oк
[Stoner] heeeey
[Shtaket] видиш
[SIBASA] Киpилл, cлeдyющaя бyдeт Фpи лигa, бyдeшь?
[Kirill-Gamer] y
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: will be harder to hit shtaket xd
[Lupastic-FS] sorry stoner :3 I can't do anything to stop myself
[SIBASA] мoжeм твoй любимый ccp выбpaть
[Kirill-Gamer] ok
[`Lancy`FS] come on
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: almost vn (:
[`Lancy`FS] ah
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: it will take much longer for me to hit shtaket
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: I'll rekt stoner first xD
[Stoner] ok
[Stoner] time to focus
[SIBASA] xD
[Lupastic-FS] uff xd
[`Lancy`FS] ae
[Stoner] agh
[`Lancy`FS] damn
`Lancy`FS need reaim
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: yes, after this, 2 TFL
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: what should we pick?
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: mine madness, abnormal?
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: yep
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: we can surely win there
[SIBASA] nice
[Stoner] ah finally
[Stoner] he lost it
[Stoner] his ass virginity
[Stoner] xd
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: boom race ok too ^^ golf too
[Lupastic-FS] uwu
[HostingBuddy] Shtaket has disconnected: Connection closed
[Lupastic-FS] what? xd lol
[`Lancy`FS] Lol
[SIBASA] ((
[Stoner] dafuuuq
[Kirill-Gamer] lol
[Stoner] no worries
[Kirill-Gamer] burned
[Stoner] BRING IT ALL HOES
[SIBASA] stoner cmon
[SIBASA] ;D
[`Lancy`FS] shtaket ass is blow up
[`Lancy`FS] xD
[Stoner] we should kick him from AQUA
[Stoner] he is not a true fish
[`Lancy`FS] :DD
[Lupastic-FS] we finish this in 1v2?
[Lupastic-FS] not gg now?
[SIBASA] Stoner try
[`Lancy`FS] Aнтoн, я кoгдa yвидeл, чтo oн y вac, cильнo yдивилcя
[Stoner] yes
[SIBASA] пoчeмy?
[Stoner] not gg
[Stoner] u have to klill me first
[SIBASA] я нe знaл чтo oн вcпыльчивый тaкoй)
[`Lancy`FS] нy я eгo знaю пpocтo c 2014 гoдa
[`Lancy`FS] xD
[`Lancy`FS] кoгдa зaпиcaлcя в кyбoк, a пoтoм тpeбoвaл чтoб я пpaвилa пoмeнял
[`Lancy`FS] xDD
[Stoner] ENGLISH PLEASE GUYS
[Stoner] I CANT READ THOSE WEIRD LETTERS
[SIBASA] ok ok)
[`Lancy`FS] i am tell to your master, stoner guy
[`Lancy`FS] so stfu
[`Lancy`FS] xD
[SIBASA] Stoner strong !
[Lupastic-FS] you're getting there Stoner
[Stoner] STRONGER
[Stoner] STONGER
[Stoner] WHATEVAH
[SIBASA] you win it ?
[Stoner] idk
[Stoner] ill try
[Stoner] f@#! that shot
[SIBASA] you killer whale in our clan
[Stoner] :)
[Stoner] yeah, no.
[Stoner] xd
[SIBASA] xD
[`Lancy`FS] D:
[Lupastic-FS] almost vn (:
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: he draws his bng skill from hysteria thats for sure :P
[`Lancy`FS] kkkk
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: tele down?
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: u can be plopped from there
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: if he just gets one very lucky shot
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: tele down where shtaket was I think
[Stoner] send nudes
[Stoner] i mean nades
[Lupastic-FS] :W next turn grenpic
[Stoner] yeah kill the other green first
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: ty, lets play it safe
[Stoner] f@#!
[SIBASA] oof
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: hehe yes :W in hungarian "aki nem mer, nem nyer" the one who doesnt risk a move, won't win
[`Lancy`FS] 6
[SIBASA] дo 9 ceкyнд мoжнo кcтaти cтaвить тeпepь
[`Lancy`FS] кoнкpeтнo в бнг?
[SIBASA] в этoй cxeмe нeт, нo нacтpoить мoжнo
[`Lancy`FS] aгa, мoжнo
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: I have no idea how to hit him with a grenade there
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: and I cant zooka
[`Lancy`FS] aw
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: lets destroy his hide first
[SIBASA] Stoner, I'll give you an honorary fish medal if you win this. ;D
[Stoner] hahah i want it
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: if u get good zooka wind, zooka his hide pls
[`Lancy`FS] maybe i would join water clan, but i'm allergic to fish
[`Lancy`FS] xD
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: if no wind for zooka, then try a lucky grenade
[Lupastic-FS] nice : >
[SIBASA] we are hyperallergenic
[Lupastic-FS] ow ;o
[Stoner] dfdfsfds
[`Lancy`FS] nice
[`Lancy`FS] xd
[Lupastic-FS] LuckyLupi back in business
[SIBASA] open
[Lupastic-FS] Stoner you are very good at destroying the shelter above our heads :3 hehe but ur really close
[`Lancy`FS] hmmm
[`Lancy`FS] bad
[`Lancy`FS] so bad
[Stoner] come f@#!ing on
[`Lancy`FS] :o
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: he always gets the perfect wind :X
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: ok I'll try
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: hmm too bouncy
[SIBASA] ya
[Stoner] :3
[Stoner] little by little
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: try zooka?
[Stoner] like the songh
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: thats nice, at least he cant go back. his first hide was very hard
[Stoner] is that a legal move?
[`Lancy`FS] almost cow
[Stoner] yeah
[Stoner] but it had max boing
[`Lancy`FS] 5s with LG only
[Stoner] i think it wouldnt be a problem
[Stoner] or am i wrong
[SIBASA] and max bounce too?
[Stoner] max bounce too
[`Lancy`FS] no matter about bounce
[Lupastic-FS] we discussed only the reaiming rule
[Lupastic-FS] so its fine, I think
[Stoner] i dont understand
[Stoner] is it ok to throw a 5xsec nade with max bounce?
[Lupastic-FS] just keep playing xd and reaim before shot that matters
[Stoner] okai
[`Lancy`FS] and dont shot 5s nades without low gravity
[Stoner] i know that lance!
[`Lancy`FS] ^^
[Lupastic-FS] Lance Vance dance
[Stoner] lancy fancy dancy
[Lupastic-FS] vn (: if no wall above the head
[Lupastic-FS] that would have been a HS
[Stoner] horse shit?
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: I obviously miss the easiest shots as usual xD
[SIBASA] We have two free league games ahead of her.
[Lupastic-FS] omfg.. :c
[Kirill-Gamer] oh
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: come closer to me
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: tele to the right I think
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: yep thats perfect
[Stoner] :c
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: if he throws a grenade into that hole im gonna wear echiko's robe
[Lupastic-FS] bah xD
[Lupastic-FS] lmao
[Stoner] ahh
[`Lancy`FS] lel
Lupastic-FS..`Lancy`FS: ty c:
[SIBASA] win this with 1 hp please
[`Lancy`FS] ae
[SIBASA] gg
[Kirill-Gamer] GG
[Stoner] nope lol
[`Lancy`FS] Gg
[Stoner] GG
[Lupastic-FS] gg c: nice

Author Topic: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic  (Read 467 times)

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Offline Zalo the moler

Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« on: August 24, 2022, 07:18 PM »
It seems like there has been an ongoing problem in OB clan with understanding how Races 2vs2 / 3vs3 work.

If you are very fast, and you reach the finish line first, you should be rewarded for it. It means that you press "Surrender" so that your partner is the only one travelling from now on, getting more turns to move thanks to you.

There is absolutely zero sense in you being very fast, if somebody tells you that you should skip the next 20 turns, until your partner arrives. That will limit the whole competition to "whatever player will be the slowest from the entire match, his clan will lose, regardless of good performance of his teammate".

There is a reason why in TTRR or Rope race 2vs2 or Jetpack race 2vs2 you count the best times of two players and you add them together. So that the mediana of your 2 performances would decide about the victory.

It's 2022 and this should not need to still be explained.

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Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2022, 07:37 PM »
Thank you Zalo, I think at this point we will just stop playing race schemes in clanners xd There are always problems and complications around them, people looking for excuses to escape a loss, and so on.. Until the finishing rule doesn't get explained crystal-clear how it works in 2v2 and 3v3 in certain schemes, it's just better to avoid races in clanners :D

Offline Zalo the moler

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2022, 07:45 PM »
Thank you Zalo, I think at this point we will just stop playing race schemes in clanners xd There are always problems and complications around them, people looking for excuses to escape a loss, and so on.. Until the finishing rule doesn't get explained crystal-clear how it works in 2v2 and 3v3 in certain schemes, it's just better to avoid races in clanners :D

Fresh players have a right of not knowing that and trying to cheese their win. Adnan, however, should have not acted so confused.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2022, 07:47 PM by GonZaLO »

Offline Lancelot

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2022, 07:54 PM »
It seems like there has been an ongoing problem in OB clan with understanding how Races 2vs2 / 3vs3 work.

If you are very fast, and you reach the finish line first, you should be rewarded for it. It means that you press "Surrender" so that your partner is the only one travelling from now on, getting more turns to move thanks to you.

There is absolutely zero sense in you being very fast, if somebody tells you that you should skip the next 20 turns, until your partner arrives. That will limit the whole competition to "whatever player will be the slowest from the entire match, his clan will lose, regardless of good performance of his teammate".

There is a reason why in TTRR or Rope race 2vs2 or Jetpack race 2vs2 you count the best times of two players and you add them together. So that the mediana of your 2 performances would decide about the victory.

It's 2022 and this should not need to still be explained.

I recently started to participate in clanners, and I don't know all the things (yes, I didn't read the rules of the league, I know them in general terms).

It is still not clear to me why to count the time in big rr if, for example, I started last and arrived one of the first to the finish line. But your logic about the fact that the first finisher gives a significant advantage to his teammate to finish the race faster, it makes sense, quite an interesting opinion  :)
   

Offline Zalo the moler

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2022, 08:08 PM »
that's because OB clan is not used to TFL schemes. Whenever I would play 2vs2 Golf in the old days, it was always crystal clear that if I complete all the "holes" in 28 turns, my teammate in 48 turns, and our opponents in 46 turns x2. Then we don't deserve to lose because of me skipping 20 turns. Why would I be in hurry to complete the stage at all if there is zero benefit from it.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2022, 10:07 PM by GonZaLO »

Offline Lancelot

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2022, 08:23 PM »
that's because OB clan is not used to TFL schemes. Whenever I would play 2vs2 Golf in the old days, it was always crystal clear that if I complete all the "holes" in 28 turns, my teammate in 48 turns, and our teammates in 46 turns x2. Then we don't deserve to lose because of me skipping 20 turns. Why would I be in hurry to complete the stage at all if there is zero benefit from it.

This is logical. I completely agree. Bravissimo :)
   

Offline Echiko

Re: Game #233617, reported by Lupastic
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2022, 08:29 PM »
Thank you Zalo, I think at this point we will just stop playing race schemes in clanners xd There are always problems and complications around them, people looking for excuses to escape a loss, and so on.. Until the finishing rule doesn't get explained crystal-clear how it works in 2v2 and 3v3 in certain schemes, it's just better to avoid races in clanners :D

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