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Game #235047, reported by Zalo the moler, Viewed 334 Time(s)

Allround #21, Default #22
Clanners
December 06, 2022, 09:53 PM
Winner
Absolute Beginner 822 in BnG before the game. Gained 31|37 points more
Loser
TdC
Absolute Beginner 774 in BnG before the game. Lost 48|37 points more
  

Game Rate
Not rated yet
Players history
1 - 0
2 - 1
6 - 8
18 - 30
Information Game scheme: BnG
Scheme pick: Loser's pick
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Game Chat(s)
[TdCxKorydex] hf
[VoK`TdC] tääkää oo sen kummosempi ko muutkaa :D
[vesuvio`] hf
[TdCxSenator] no ei nii
[TdCxSenator] kaikki oli paskoja
[TdCxSenator] ku et ossaa :D
[VoK`TdC] eka oli vitun hyvä mutko ei kelvannu :D
[vesuvio`] well im totally drunk anyways
[vesuvio`] but mole clan shoudl win a t17
[Zalo-the-moler] nt
[VoK`TdC] my first map was voking killer but senator didint like :(
[vesuvio`] senator is a lucker xD
[Zalo-the-moler] that previous map was pretty nice
[vesuvio`] we need 2 more games tdc
[vesuvio`] is that opk ?
[vesuvio`] we want 1 more t17
[TdCxKorydex] no sry
[vesuvio`] u nmaybe want elite
[TdCxKorydex] if u win :D
[vesuvio`] WHAT ?
[Zalo-the-moler] maybe 3rd one
[vesuvio`] i said we want 2more games
[vesuvio`] we chose t17
[vesuvio`] you could chose a eltie
[VoK`TdC] i chose youtube after this and drink more beer
[Zalo-the-moler] will you let ves teleport?
[Zalo-the-moler] if I skip?
[vesuvio`] wtf
[vesuvio`] shoooooooot
[TdCxSenator] why would u skip
[Zalo-the-moler] because he is on your left side
[TdCxKorydex] he has to tele anyways
[Zalo-the-moler] xd
[VoK`TdC] ns
[Zalo-the-moler] yes
[Zalo-the-moler] christmas tree
[Zalo-the-moler] pixel
[VoK`TdC] gj gj
[TdCxKorydex] t
[Zalo-the-moler] stahp
[VoK`TdC] nt
[VoK`TdC] n good bush
[Zalo-the-moler] sathpp
[Zalo-the-moler] hu hu = )
[VoK`TdC] n push
[Zalo-the-moler] t
[Zalo-the-moler] cool!
[Zalo-the-moler] OH COME ON
[vesuvio`] wtf
[VoK`TdC] omfg
[vesuvio`] n1
[VoK`TdC] vns
[TdCxKorydex] t
[VoK`TdC] cheats ?
[VoK`TdC] or just tdc ?
[TdCxSenator] just tdc!
[TdCxKorydex] x)
[Zalo-the-moler] yay
[vesuvio`] n1
[Zalo-the-moler] -40 is quite sth
[vesuvio`] x.x
[Zalo-the-moler] why you always have the wind?
[TdCxSenator] cheats
[Zalo-the-moler] !!!
[Zalo-the-moler] cool
[vesuvio`] oke
[TdCxKorydex] g1
[Zalo-the-moler] pro
[vesuvio`] vn
[Zalo-the-moler] go telecide them or sth!
[Zalo-the-moler] xd
[vesuvio`] hit u
[Zalo-the-moler] ya
[Zalo-the-moler] y
[Zalo-the-moler] another 40
[Zalo-the-moler] I will do basketball bounce
[Zalo-the-moler] look
[vesuvio`] i ll dance dance dance with hands hands hands above my head like jesus said
[vesuvio`] aw
[vesuvio`] that was close
[vesuvio`] gg
[TdCxSenator] gg
[Zalo-the-moler] gg
[Zalo-the-moler] ah
[Zalo-the-moler] I need to practise that
[Zalo-the-moler] yay
[Zalo-the-moler] -41!
[VoK`TdC] bs
[VoK`TdC] ns
[Zalo-the-moler] noo
[TdCxSenator] t
[vesuvio`] tdc u play 2 more ?
[vesuvio`] because if not i can go to bed
[Zalo-the-moler] or 3rd T17 island?
[TdCxKorydex] if u win we can do 3rd xd
[Zalo-the-moler] ok I teleport
[Zalo-the-moler] !
[VoK`TdC] nt
[vesuvio`] zalo do the komodo take them worms out in 3 turns
[vesuvio`] komodo could actually do that
[vesuvio`] its 3-4 turns
[TdCxKorydex] ure too close lol
[Zalo-the-moler] am I ves?
[vesuvio`] nopew
[vesuvio`] u are from the middle
[vesuvio`] right
[TdCxSenator] not too close
[TdCxSenator] there's no such rule anymore
[TdCxSenator] you only need to stay on your half of the map
[Zalo-the-moler] oh come on!
[VoK`TdC] löysää kullia vaa
[vesuvio`] DAMN TDC
[vesuvio`] WILL T_HERE _BERE MORE GAMES ORE NPTO
[TdCxSenator] 3rd island t17 ok
[TdCxSenator] not 2 more
[vesuvio`] ok !
[Zalo-the-moler] ok
[Zalo-the-moler] even if we lost? :D
[TdCxKorydex] y
[Zalo-the-moler] niceeee
[Zalo-the-moler] nt!
[vesuvio`] RESPECT THA MOLE CLAN
[Zalo-the-moler] :S
[TdCxSenator] in any case
[vesuvio`] its a good clan
[vesuvio`] beat u in elite allready
[vesuvio`] but im drunk xD
[Zalo-the-moler] maybe better not bring this up ves
[Zalo-the-moler] it was lucky
[vesuvio`] lel lucky ?
[vesuvio`] i did this shit on my own
[vesuvio`] if putin kills the ukraine thrats lucky
[vesuvio`] bro
[vesuvio`] because korydex stays at home
[vesuvio`] playen worms
[Zalo-the-moler] what is the purpose of girder
[Zalo-the-moler] to shield onself?
[vesuvio`] ffor exaomßle
[vesuvio`] u can do what u want with it
[Zalo-the-moler] but I can't darkshadow behind right?
[vesuvio`] u can
[vesuvio`] im fed up with thisa
[Zalo-the-moler] patience
[TdCxSenator] darksiding is not allowed
[TdCxSenator] with or without girder
[VoK`TdC] nt
[Zalo-the-moler] oki
[Zalo-the-moler] ha!
[VoK`TdC] siihe pixelin päälle
[VoK`TdC] ei sitte :D
[TdCxSenator] noku se kimottaa tosta takaa
[Zalo-the-moler] ulala!
[vesuvio`] n1
[VoK`TdC] ns
[Zalo-the-moler] ty
[vesuvio`] zalo did not gfive up this joint yet
[VoK`TdC] vnt
[Zalo-the-moler] ouch
[VoK`TdC] ei
[VoK`TdC] ei
[VoK`TdC] oli nätti tuuli
[vesuvio`] aW
[vesuvio`] bl
[vesuvio`] :I(
[Zalo-the-moler] in order to throw 5 sec
[Zalo-the-moler] I must either do Max Bounce
[Zalo-the-moler] or LG?
[TdCxKorydex] right
[vesuvio`] nt
[Zalo-the-moler] aww
[vesuvio`] vn1
[Zalo-the-moler] hmm
[Zalo-the-moler] was it 0.25?
[Zalo-the-moler] sec?
[vesuvio`] no sitter
[vesuvio`] it was n1
[Zalo-the-moler] I am willing to risk this game
[TdCxKorydex] think it was one
[Zalo-the-moler] and bet that it was below 0.25 sec
[vesuvio`] it was no sitter it was n1
[Zalo-the-moler] in replay we will see later
[TdCxSenator] can check after the game
[vesuvio`] kill the other worm xD
[vesuvio`] without mercy
[vesuvio`] !
[vesuvio`] aw
[vesuvio`] nt
[Zalo-the-moler] wowow
[vesuvio`] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[vesuvio`] ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
[Zalo-the-moler] YES
[vesuvio`] well n1
[vesuvio`] ZALOI GG it
[vesuvio`] with a awesome nade !
[vesuvio`] close
[Zalo-the-moler] damn
[vesuvio`] zalo shows a real fighteri nthis game
[vesuvio`] iun this round
[vesuvio`] omg throw the finnishing nade and i ll be mole clan for ever
[Zalo-the-moler] = (
[vesuvio`] bl
[Zalo-the-moler] sicky
[vesuvio`] n1
[TdCxSenator] olala
[vesuvio`] bö
[vesuvio`] bl
[Zalo-the-moler] wow
[VoK`TdC] omg :D
[VoK`TdC] nt
[Zalo-the-moler] damn
[Zalo-the-moler] darksiding
[Zalo-the-moler] ladies and gentlemen
[TdCxSenator] YEP
[Zalo-the-moler] ...
[TdCxKorydex] ill open next go
[Zalo-the-moler] oh come on wind
[vesuvio`] n1
[vesuvio`] mghg
[vesuvio`] vnt
[Zalo-the-moler] that wind thou
[Zalo-the-moler] what's up with that
[Zalo-the-moler] that wind!!!
[vesuvio`] f@#! the wind
[vesuvio`] u can win by 1 turn
[vesuvio`] plus nade with sec bounce kill
[VoK`TdC] nt
[VoK`TdC] omg vbl
[vesuvio`] OKAY gg zalo will do it now !
[TdCxSenator] vo00d00
[Zalo-the-moler] :O
[vesuvio`] !!!!
[TdCxKorydex] gg
[vesuvio`] I SAID IT
[VoK`TdC] gg
[Zalo-the-moler] okay, I need to watch replay now
[vesuvio`] GG
[Zalo-the-moler] GG guys
[TdCxSenator] gg
[vesuvio`] mole clan
[vesuvio`] party

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Offline Zalo the moler

Game #235047, reported by Zalo the moler
« on: December 06, 2022, 10:10 PM »
At 41:23, after a long, long battle, I threw a 4 sec granade across entire map. In a blink of an eye right before the explosion, the granade stopped, killing 27 hp worm. Me and Vesuvio had no way of knowing whether it was 0.25 sitter or not. It felt super unlikely to have sitter when throwing a granade across 98% of the map length.

I had 37 hp worm, so what could I do? why would I unnecessarily deal damage to myself just to later find out that I didn't cow?

It was a common sense for both me and vesuvio that we simply wait to see that granade on the replay, and if my worm's health ever goes below the damage that I have caused from that potential sitter, we would call it a loss on our side.

But it never went below 27 hp, and we ended up winning, having 37 hp in my worm. After the match has ended, it turned out that the granade sitted 0.26s before the explosion.

You might say "yes, but you didn't lose a turn, that you would usually lose for inflicting damage to yourself". Well... I did lose a turn because Korydex darksided himself by building a long girder at 52:15, making himself completely immune/impenetrable.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2022, 10:19 PM by Zalo the moler »

Offline Senator

Re: Game #235047, reported by Zalo the moler
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2022, 10:58 PM »
Since it was unclear if it was a sitter, I think it's ok to keep playing and check the situation after the game. Then put the rule in effect if needed. If you throw a sitter, you have to use a turn to shoot yourself for the same damage (or skip a turn and reduce the same damage so that you die at X HP). Losing a turn on top of HP reduction is important because it could be otherwise beneficial to throw sitters. In similar cases (e.g. unclear if a player touched a wall in WxW) we have changed the result afterwards when someone didn't skip a turn and he was 1 turn away from dying at the end of the game.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2022, 12:18 AM by Senator »

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #235047, reported by Zalo the moler
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2022, 11:13 PM »
This isn't what the rules say but the best way to deal with a sitter is to deduct the amount of damage you did, from your own worm, so if you done say 45 damage, you die on 45hp, and skip turn.

It's not perfect though because sitters can ruin hides as well.  :-X

What I said above is NOT part of the official rules, it's just what some of us used to do as like a gentlemans unwritten rules in cases of obvious accidents.

Because that could be horrendously abused if it was an official rule. :D



This next part IS talking about the official rules for BnG on TUS:

You dealt 44 damage with that grenade, so you should be taking 44 damage as per the rules though:



Just because the worm only had 27hp left, doesn't mean you only take 27hp damage, it dealt 44hp so it was game over the second that grenade hit like that.

It's technically a win for TdC.