Game #235454, reported by vesuvio

vesuvio · January 03, 2023, 07:41 PM

i just quit moleclan

KinslayeR · January 03, 2023, 07:45 PM

Zalo is cool guy and great wormer, bls dont do it, we always enjoy clanner vs u guys, this is not just about zalo leaving mole clan, it is about zalo leaving worms, no more clanners, no reason to live... bls...

vesuvio · January 03, 2023, 07:47 PM

Aiaiai

Zalo the moler · January 04, 2023, 03:01 PM

where exactly I said it?

I only said that I need a break from you insulting me for my moves, just because I have a new keyboard and just because I sometimes choose risky moves. You promised to change but you didn't. I never care when you are unlucky, at least not in the last 2-3 weeks.

Kaleu · January 04, 2023, 10:25 PM

But can you play rope games with this new kb or nah? Others clans fated to play T17 back to back forever?

Zalo the moler · January 06, 2023, 08:58 AM

Quote from: Kaleu on January 04, 2023, 10:25 PM
But can you play rope games with this new kb or nah? Others clans fated to play T17 back to back forever?

Roping schemes are another separate league so what are you even talking about. Even if they were somehow included in the classic default league, what difference does it make? It's not like you, or my opponents will ever play Walk for Weapons, Mole Shopper, Holy War, Mine Madness, Boom Race, Plop War or Golf, being far more enjoyable schemes, so why in the world I should restrain myself from the only scheme in this odd league that I enjoy? Give me Walk for Weapons, Mole Shoper, Golf, Bungee Race and I will pick these!

In clanner Play-Offs roping should be made into one scheme, not 5. Until this changes I don't see how I would treat those clanners POs seriously. We are forced to wake up Jago from winter sleep just for him to come and play those silly roping picks, which don't even belong to TUS default league to begin with.

KinslayeR · January 06, 2023, 09:19 AM

Quote from: Zalo the moler on January 06, 2023, 08:58 AM
Quote from: Kaleu on January 04, 2023, 10:25 PM
But can you play rope games with this new kb or nah? Others clans fated to play T17 back to back forever?

Roping schemes are another separate league so what are you even talking about. Even if they were somehow included in the classic default league, what difference does it make? It's not like you, or my opponents will ever play Walk for Weapons, Mole Shopper, Holy War, Mine Madness, Boom Race, Plop War or Golf, being far more enjoyable schemes, so why in the world I should restrain myself from the only scheme in this odd league that I enjoy? Give me Walk for Weapons, Mole Shoper, Golf, Bungee Race and I will pick these!

In clanner Play-Offs roping should be made into one scheme, not 5. Until this changes I don't see how I would treat those clanners POs seriously. We are forced to wake up Jago from winter sleep just for him to come and play those silly roping picks, which don't even belong to TUS default league to begin with.

I am sad u feel this way. Rope is the thing who brought me to worms and kept me for so long years.. I would propably quit worms after 2 days if there are just moles, walk for weapons and other schemes You mentioned. But I dont blame u, some ppl will never understand coz they never tried. Maybe if You ever gonna try, I mean try hard, practicing, destroying and buying better and better kbs, just to get better, then You will find the beauty of this schemes. Tho I dont play them so much anymore lol

Zalo the moler · January 06, 2023, 09:32 AM

Quote from: KinslayeR on January 06, 2023, 09:19 AM
some ppl will never understand coz they never tried. Maybe if You ever gonna try, I mean try hard, practicing,

I have watched and tried those roping schemes more than 300-500 times Kins. I am with Worms since its demo of WWP in 2001. Dozens times I would randomly join Kradie Big RR to practise there and make some progress. Do I need to try 600 times more to "understand"? It's just boring for me. I am not into arcade racing but into strategy, which I thought worms games are. It would be fine with me if there was a racing rope scheme, but 5 of them, counting as separate schemes for POs is absurd. Meanwhile, most enjoyable schemes are only in TFL. Schemes that close-minded people like Kaleu surely tried less than I tried roping.

Kradie · January 06, 2023, 12:43 PM

ZaR schemes aren't recommended for the faint of heart, IMO.

However, I've seen worse ropers that comes back and enjoys ZaR anyway.

WA is a turn based artillery strategy game. We should count ourselves lucky that we have so many modes to enjoy. Because without them, we might not have had what we have now.

A league should embody all the main popular schemes. It is a test of all around skills of an individual. Admittedly I do not possess all skill for each schemes, and most likely never will. Ergo I barely participate in the league. I mostly pursue my own Interest, and funners.

Kaleu · January 07, 2023, 07:11 PM

It's always the same talk though. You don't like a scheme of the all round league but yet you wanna compete being an incomplete player, but instead of becoming better and learn all schemes you just wanna change the league to suit you... I've seen that before.
I am not close minded, I dislike many schemes of the classic league (including rope schemes, who would know?

) and I try to avoid if possible but I play them all at an average skill level because I wanna be a complete player, I don't wanna replace it or refuse to play like you and your clan does.

On the other hand, there are many Free league schems that I enjoy too. I used to waste hours and hours playing Bungee Race with HusH, I play Abnormal regularly with Corujão, CTF is nice too but I don't have many chances to play it. It's not my fault if these schemes are considered noob fest.

If we have a problem with that we can arrange some games of all free league schemes, altought the league is disabled we can play it like it's competitive. I won't run away saying "I can't " play a certain scheme, lol.

By the way, don't forget what happened to you the last time you said I was an incomplete player that I would rely only on rope schemes to win

TheKomodo · January 07, 2023, 08:56 PM

Quote from: Zalo the moler on January 06, 2023, 09:32 AM
It would be fine with me if there was a racing rope scheme, but 5 of them, counting as separate schemes for POs is absurd.

With that logic, one could say that there should only be 1 default scheme in Playoffs because counting them as separate schemes is absurd.

Elite, Team17, Intermediate are all strategic schemes. The core concept is you need to out-think and strategize better than your opponent. Though all the intricate differences make them all wildly different in experience.

The roping schemes are the same in that they are defined enough and differ from each other enough to rightfully have their place in the Playoffs.

The style of roping required for each scheme is different.

Take Big RR and TTRR for example, these 2 schemes have an impossibly high for a human skill ceiling. One consists of maintaining full speed over multiple turns in larger areas, where as the other requires more focus on quick bursts of acceleration and stability in tighter areas. There are very few players who are at the top tier of players in both these schemes, because of this neither of those schemes is more challenging than the other because they are always both challenging to the absolute human limit.

Then you have Roper, Shopper and WxW, where the maps all differ, the roping style differs, and how you use weapons differs making them slightly strategic as well.

To say it's absurd to include these, IS absurd!

Quote from: Zalo the moler on January 06, 2023, 09:32 AM
Meanwhile, most enjoyable schemes are only in TFL.

That depends on who you ask.

Kaleu · January 07, 2023, 11:03 PM

By the way Zalo, I always see you repeat that rope games don't belong to default league over and over but I think you get it wrong, "Default" is not meant to be the "main" league, the main league is the Allround league. Default is just an alternative to not call it "ground" league or "soil" league. This naming IMO causes some misconception.

In the end it makes no sense to focus in just one league when the playoffs are Allround! And to be honest I don't think you are focusing in one of the leagues, but instead you are focusing just 1 scheme. T17 it is, lol.
I do support separate playoffs though! Maybe bring it back to satisfy Zalo?

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