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Game #240804, reported by Sensei, Viewed 230 Time(s)

Default #29, Allround #28
Singles
February 21, 2024, 05:16 PM
Winner
Sensei
Croatia HCP alCo
Rookie 1277 in BnG before the game. Gained 28|26 points more
Loser
SiD
United Kingdom HCP sm
Absolute Beginner 966 in BnG before the game. Lost 27|26 points more
  

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Players history
1 - 0
1 - 1
1 - 0
1 - 1
Information Game scheme: BnG
Scheme pick: Both pick (Like a 3rd game)
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Game Chat(s)
[`Pn`Trinity] hf
[Sensei`hcp] fun
[SiD`] Hf
[SiD`] almost tele'd there!
[`Pn`Trinity] xD
[`Pn`Trinity] n
[Sensei`hcp] that's what i needed
[Sensei`hcp] you probably could plop me with lg hm
[`Pn`Trinity] vn
[SiD`] :O
[Sensei`hcp] ty
[SiD`] omg
[Sensei`hcp] woah!
[Sensei`hcp] you guys been playing some ssr or?
[`Pn`Trinity] i just played some actually
[`Pn`Trinity] went pretty good
[SiD`] not much worms recently :(
[Sensei`hcp] then how did you know sid joining my tus game? haha
[`Pn`Trinity] sid we should def ssr again
[Sensei`hcp] trinity scares me way too much
[Sensei`hcp] or i called game sid?!?
[`Pn`Trinity] i miss those days with u <3
[Sensei`hcp] lol, that makes sense then...
[`Pn`Trinity] y u did xD
[`Pn`Trinity] N
[Sensei`hcp] vns
[Sensei`hcp] time to get the hell out
[`Pn`Trinity] sid told me he only plays ground schemes now tho
[SiD`] i'm always up for ssr
[`Pn`Trinity] rly ? let's do that then
[`Pn`Trinity] this is tus btw ?
[Sensei`hcp] yeah
[`Pn`Trinity] k
[`Pn`Trinity] u never rope now sid ?
[Sensei`hcp] have you played this new co-op map, trinity?
[`Pn`Trinity] what one ?
[Sensei`hcp] loved your part sid.. Your maps always gets me to rope fastest and with less fails
[`Pn`Trinity] i was gonna ask is there 2v2 bng, is that a thing ?
[Sensei`hcp] yeah, why not.. 2v2 bng can be quite fun
[SiD`] thanks man :)
[`Pn`Trinity] n
[`Pn`Trinity] so what map are u talking about sensei ?
[Sensei`hcp] sid and 7-8 more people just released big rr map.. it also got SSR part, golf part... etc
[Sensei`hcp] awesome map, try it out
[`Pn`Trinity] omg, wmdb ?
[Sensei`hcp] yeah, wmdb, tus, discord..
[Sensei`hcp] lost my fkn glasses
[`Pn`Trinity] what wmdb # i mean
[Sensei`hcp] knew it
[`Pn`Trinity] xD
[Sensei`hcp] just when i said hahha
[`Pn`Trinity] was my fault sorry
[Sensei`hcp] wow sid!!!
[Sensei`hcp] i'm amased you showed lack of sportmanship hahaha
[`Pn`Trinity] its on wmdb then sid ? what# if u can tell me
[SiD`] should be on tus-wa home page
[`Pn`Trinity] ive never been there only on wmdb page but ill check thanks
[`Pn`Trinity] sounds fun
[SiD`] it's on wmdb too :D
[`Pn`Trinity] ok what is it called then ? i mean i can just search for sid i guess xD
[`Pn`Trinity] and under what scheme since there was alot of thenm
[SiD`] it's on homepage tony
[SiD`] top left
[`Pn`Trinity] fine ty
[SiD`] n1
[Sensei`hcp] this is for not skipping! i'm onto you now.
[`Pn`Trinity] u should make a zippycannon map also btw sid like cuesharks map u know )
[`Pn`Trinity] haha
[SiD`] oh haha :D sorry
[SiD`] i always worry i'm committing a faux pas when bnging
[Sensei`hcp] not that you didn't skip, you also threw a roller on me hahaha. I was like WTF.. asbest would be more caring
[Sensei`hcp] awesome moment
[Sensei`hcp] total savage
[`Pn`Trinity] asbest still play ?
[SiD`] haven
[SiD`] t seen him for a few years
[`Pn`Trinity] well its sad u know everything thats going on of c
[Sensei`hcp] i think he does under an alias.. but not that often
[`Pn`Trinity] hope he is ok
[`Pn`Trinity] vn
[Sensei`hcp] ty... i find these shots cheap, but sid's hide don't leave me plenty of options
[`Pn`Trinity] xD
[Sensei`hcp] plethora of variety in old sensei's house
[Sensei`hcp] !!!
[Sensei`hcp] :)
[`Pn`Trinity] sid he gon rekt u
[`Pn`Trinity] u better tele
[`Pn`Trinity] ;)
[Sensei`hcp] i don't like sid playing with zook winds...
[Sensei`hcp] that can be deadly
[SiD`] going by this game i think you're safe
[Sensei`hcp] lol.
[`Pn`Trinity] xD
[Sensei`hcp] n dig
[Sensei`hcp] wrong hole
[`Pn`Trinity] sid is playing mole
[`Pn`Trinity] xD
[Sensei`hcp] (that's what...)
[`Pn`Trinity] see
[Sensei`hcp] forgot max?
[Sensei`hcp] that would have been beautiful!
[SiD`] forgot brain
[`Pn`Trinity] hahaha
[Sensei`hcp] theeere we go
[Sensei`hcp] check this out trin
[`Pn`Trinity] k
[Sensei`hcp] he spared me.
[`Pn`Trinity] im rdi
[`Pn`Trinity] omg get shrekt sid
[`Pn`Trinity] u just got told
[Sensei`hcp] i was actually talking about sid's shot, but he failed it.. did my by pure luck hahaha
[`Pn`Trinity] x
[`Pn`Trinity] D
[SiD`] lol
[Sensei`hcp] you gotta be honest!!!
[Sensei`hcp] thaaat's the one!!
[`Pn`Trinity] remember when i used to ask u that sid, u gon tele ? xD
[SiD`] lol
[Sensei`hcp] hmm full power blue could get me here
[SiD`] are you still in contact with lemur?
[`Pn`Trinity] no i chatted with her maybe 1-2 months ago tho
[`Pn`Trinity] on worms
[`Pn`Trinity] we still have our girder map on wmdb xD
[`Pn`Trinity] ''sit''
[`Pn`Trinity] remember ?
[SiD`] ofc
[SiD`] can
[`Pn`Trinity] YES
[SiD`] can't believe that was like 9 years ago
[Sensei`hcp] gg man
[SiD`] ns! gg
[`Pn`Trinity] gg
[Sensei`hcp] thx
[`Pn`Trinity] gj guys

Author Topic: Game #240804, reported by Sensei  (Read 236 times)

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Offline Sensei

Game #240804, reported by Sensei
« on: February 21, 2024, 05:58 PM »
Since I've been told by a certain player I constantly "moan" about how people play BnG.. Decided to take few shots while SiD was in darkside. This video (@25.24) is why I think these type of shots are not that hard or stylish.

3 different types of shots, 3 tries, 3 hits (3 turns in a row as well) - 3s nade, 4s lg nade, 4s max bounce nade

Not the most hp ever taken, but you get the point.. Quite easier to find your opponent than with an impact shot of any kind (minus 4s full power nade. Those are another type of evil, but let's leave that for some future dramas.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2024, 06:00 PM by Sensei »

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #240804, reported by Sensei
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2024, 07:15 PM »
Even monkeys could type shakespeare given enough time Sensei.

Edit:

Also, I'm fed up with this ignorant BS from everybody.

(This isn't directly aimed at this replay, or Sensei's comment, but in general because a few people have been spreading lies about it recently.)

The next time I've got enough free time and remember I'm going to prove this once and for all with math and science.

It's mathematically impossible for 4s rollers to be easier than 3s grenades(with these league rules) and I will prove it.

We're talking about shots that blow up before they stop moving.

3s grenades are easier, more accurate, have less distance to travel, less perfect bounces to get that optimal damage and on top of all that, for very advanced players, to target specific pixels to push in specific directions or not at all.

Sorry not sorry but if you(anyone) believes otherwise, you're a fool and I genuinely want to help you learn the truth so you can be a better player!


Offline TheWalrus

Re: Game #240804, reported by Sensei
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2024, 07:47 PM »
Since I've been told by a certain player I constantly "moan" about how people play BnG.. Decided to take few shots while SiD was in darkside. This video (@25.24) is why I think these type of shots are not that hard or stylish.

3 different types of shots, 3 tries, 3 hits (3 turns in a row as well) - 3s nade, 4s lg nade, 4s max bounce nade

Not the most hp ever taken, but you get the point.. Quite easier to find your opponent than with an impact shot of any kind (minus 4s full power nade. Those are another type of evil, but let's leave that for some future dramas.
Analysis:

#1 - 3 sec was probably the easiest of the bunch, several powers/angles work from this spot with 3s, probably one of the least desirable outcomes, bouncing off the floater.  Simple shot.
#2 - 4 sec lg only works with the power you used with that angle, difficult shot.  -1 power hits the tree above and +1 power flies too far.  Narrow margin for error.
#3 - 4 sec + bounce worked, but your aim probably made this shot harder than it should have been for bounceback, could have taken an aim slightly more upward that worked on the outcropping above if you overpowered it, and also fused it better.  The aim you took probably only worked with 1-2 different powers.

Overall, well done.  The 3 sec is probably pretty cheesy for some, but the other two were great, precision shots that are not easy for the vast majority of players.  Would have shot the last one as 5+ to cozy it closer for more dmg, but that's personal preference.  Maybe I am cheap :D but + bouncebacks are tough and I like to pay them off when I hit them, certainly harder than a 3 sec direct or LG 5 impact.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2024, 07:50 PM by TheWalrus »

Offline Sensei

Re: Game #240804, reported by Sensei
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2024, 08:20 PM »
certainly harder than a 3 sec direct or LG 5 impact.

I just don't see it being harder. Especially not when it comes to lg5 impact.





Not doing maths, not going for visual aids, don't posses knowledge of sprites behaviour/aim reticules etc..
Surely not a BnG prodigy, but it does feel easier and cheaper to bounce the nade from green circle (or any other bouncing part of the map), than to hit an impact shot in that red circle.


Overall, well done.

Danke!

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #240804, reported by Sensei
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2024, 08:42 PM »
Yeah that's because you've got pretty much the perfect setup, not because THAT specific kind of shot is easier in general lol.

Still much easier to hit the red circle with a 3s nade, and this is the important part, precisely!

I highly doubt you could for example, OPEN that right side of the tree, with a bounce back with as much precision as you could a 3s shot.

But, when it comes down to it! Doesn't matter what shots are generally more challenging on average, it all comes down to your personal skillset and beliefs.

If you actually believe it's easier or harder for yourself, then it probably is for you alone lol.

"Not doing maths, not going for visual aids, don't posses knowledge of sprites behaviour/aim reticules etc.. "

Also, unless you're playing with a blindfold on, everyone with eyes uses visual aids.

And if you ain't doing math, then how do you decide the fuse and the timing?


Offline Sensei

Re: Game #240804, reported by Sensei
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2024, 08:49 PM »
And if you ain't doing math, then how do you decide the fuse and the timing?

Need math to press and release space when you feel like it?

Offline TheKomodo

Re: Game #240804, reported by Sensei
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2024, 08:52 PM »
Need math to press and release space when you feel like it?

Yes.

How the hell do you not know these basic things?