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As I've quoted multiple times already:

Yeah, cool, I saw that multiple times too.

This sentence was taken from this entire post:

Perfect!

You literally said that, the post has not been edited yet either so you can't edit it and claim you never said it.

So just in case you try to edit it in the future, I've taken a screenshot to prove it:

Don't worry, I don't do that kind of things. Evenmore I don't need that it this case, because my point is strong and unbreakable.

Let's break down the sentence and properly explain what it means, literally, in the English language.

Imo means "In my opinion", which means that YOU are saying it's something that YOU believe.

Nice, keep going!

Then there is the word "noob" in quotation marks, which specifies that you are speaking about THAT word specifically.

Exactly. Your deductive abilities are beginning to please me.

Then you continued after the quote with "word is a bit offensive". Which solidifies that you think that word is offensive. You could have said "very offensive" or "barely offensive" but it's still offensive on some level.

STOP AT THIS MOMENT! Now let's do it again: I find this word a bit offensive FOR OTHERS. I wrote this to you in the next posts, but you seem to have gone blind. Let's check the facts what I've said:

I've never been offended at the word noob. Where did you even get such conclusions from? I don't care at all, and as I said, I'm always ready to admit that I'm a noob and I'm fine.

do you see the difference between sentences: "many people could get offended" and "I've never been offended at the word noob"? "MANY PEOPLE" IS NOT RELATED TO ME! Everyone has their own opinion and point of view. The word noob can't trigger me, as I said before. And if I find this word offensive, this DOES NOT MEAN that I can be offended at it. I find this word a bit offensive FOR OTHERS.

Now explain me, nerd, why I can’t have my own opinion about others and their potential reaction to a certain word? Is this prohibited in English language? Explain in detail. I know you can do it perfectly.

Then you wrote "many people could get offended", with the keyword being "could" which indicates that other people may be offended by the word "noob" as well. It doesn't mean they definitely are, or that anyone actually is, just that it's possible!

Not AS WELL and not OTHER PEOPLE. This is your speculation. I wrote "many people" in this post.
I literally meant that MANY people may be offended by the word "noob", and I did not relate myself with the MANY PEOPLE, as I said next.
In addition, right after this sentence (in the same post) I wrote this:

Although I also think that being a noob is normal. I still tell everyone that I'm a noob. 

Now explain me, nerd, how can I get offended at word noob if I've said that I think that being noob is normal and I tell everyone that I'm a noob?
Seems like you're very selective about only certain details, that you'd like to note. But you literally close your eyes on the rest. Or maybe you're just blind, I'm not sure. Stop your speculations.

You've literally made a statement there indicating that YOU find the word offensive.

Yes I find this word offensive FOR OTHERS, but PERSONALLY I've never get offended at this word.

You lose. Checkmate. Let's go our separate ways.

You're the one who got offended about the word "noob" and demanded I don't use such a word.

Lie again. I have already written 2 times that I am not offended at the word noob, and even said that I was ready to admit that I am a noob and I'm okay with that. Stop passing off your speculations as facts, it’s not even funny, it’s already a clinical case.

Also, the word "demanded" is wrong too, I just adviced. How can I demand something from a stranger?

You gave me a suggestion about "strict rules", I declined it, you should have left it at that but you didn't, you keep pushing.

Is there any reason for me to keep pushing? Open your eyes! The event is closed, I’m not a participant, and right now I absolutely don’t care about your rules and your vision, thank your stupidity and unethical behavior towards others and me.

I'm stubborn in that I will not stop defending myself, you're stubborn because you keep attacking.

No, I'm defending myself here, and you keep trying to make an idiot out of me, making stupid jokes and trying to find contradictions in my previous words, but there are no contradictions, so take it easy.

This started when YOU got offended at the word "noob".

This didn’t happen, I’m saying this for the millionth time. These are your fantasies or stupid jokes.

You're the one who is trying to tell me what I should and should not do & say.

Don't think so.

You keep grasping at straws, you keep making these outrageous examples that have NOTHING to do with the actual conversation...

These outrageous examples are as close to reality as possible, and if you don’t understand this, these are just problems of your thinking. I even assume that highly likely you've realized this and you are deliberately rejecting these examples, because you don't want to seem even more stupid.

It's not even so much the language as your inability to accept a mistake and learn from it.

I'm able to admit mistakes. But I don't see any mistakes here. My logic is strong, as well is my position.

You associate the word "noob" with a depreciative meaning, I LITERALLY GAVE YOU EVIDENCE that it is not a bad word!

Where was any evidence? The only evidence that you gave me was your lovely english dictionary. But wake up, dude! Do you live by a dictionary? I assume that 99% of Wormnet players doesn't have an english dictionary on their shelf. And I'm among them. I perfectly understand the meaning of the word noob, I don't need a dictionary for that. You should understand that we have a REAL OPINIONS of people on the one side, and on the other side we have a piece of paper smeared with paint, which almost no one uses. Don't give the words written in your dictionary as immutable truth. Otherwise, I’ll really start calling the orderlies soon. By the way, when was the dictionary published, which year?

I am NOT trying to make you look like an idiot, I'm trying to help you learn that "noob" is NOT a bad word, it's a perfectly innocent word to use to accurately describe what a newcomer is!

1. You're trying to make me look like an idiot when you cavilling to my previous words, trying to find contradictions and irrational logic, but it's not there.
2. I don't need your help. And, as I said, I don't need to be convinced, that is one of the reason why I've put this example with customer and marketer.

Evidence of YOU being triggered by the word "noob".

Where is evidence?

If there was no such thing as a noob, then the word wouldn't exist!

Stop, stop, stop. Don't be silly. I didn't talk about the word noob itself, and of course they exists somewhere: in other schemes, in other games etc. I’m telling you for the 4th time that I meant exclusively freestyling. And I detailed explained why. Also I didn't mean a random passengers, who just come in and out. I don’t know how else I can explain it to you. I believe that people come to freestyle with at least basic skills. I also said this ~3 times already. People with basic skills can barely be called noobs. But even if you really want to, I adviced  you don't do it, and explained in detail why.

ANYONE has access to this website. They can create an account and sign up, without even knowing what a "Warmer" is, or even knowing what the word "Freestyle" means.

Oh, really? And how many noobs has joined to your event this way?

What Kradie said was different to what you and FoxHound said.

Sure. Should we write the same way, using the same words? The meaning was general - no one liked the word noob. Let's check the facts:

Imo Noob is supposed to be offensive... <> To use the word noob can both have both positive and negative effect on a person's psyche.

I completely agree with Kradie. Noob is not the same thing as Newbie. Noob is pejorative.

in fact u so silly... we need MORE newbs to alive this game !

But if we're talking about culture of freestyling and about Warmer in general, we should not scare people away by calling someone a noob.

Right, Vesuvio said something different from Kradie or Foxhound, but he meant almost the same thing as I said before. We both talked about resurrecting the game. He said that we need more newbs, then I said that we shouldn't scare people away by calling noobs and there's a logic: how will we get more newbs if you gonna continue call them noobs, insulting them and scaring away?

Also your inability to remember what you've said before.
You also keep denying things which there is clear evidence of, with your OWN words!

Are you trying to make a fool out of me again? It's impossible, because I'm not a fool. Therefore, it would be better for you to stop this circus show.

You don't even realize what you wrote, YOUR OWN WORDS!
You wrote that in your opinion, the word is offensive, and that also many people could get offended.

Yes that's exactly what I wrote. And I want to ask you again: do you see the difference between sentences: "many people could get offended" and "I've never been offended at the word noob"? "MANY PEOPLE" IS NOT RELATED TO ME! Everyone has their own opinion and point of view. The word noob can't trigger me, as I said before. And if I find this word offensive, this DOES NOT MEAN that I can be offended at it. I find this word a bit offensive FOR OTHERS.

Now tell me, are you really so stupid or are you pretending?

This all started because YOU said there shouldn't be such "strict rules" which then escalated to YOU having a problem with the word "noob"...

Dude, you're really delusional. I have no problems at all, because I'm just a "customer" here. YOU have a problems here as an organizer, because your event is unpopular. And I was just trying to help by noting some recommendations and feedback.

In addition, I even said here that I'm a noob and I'm fine with that.  Personally, this word doesn’t trigger me.

You came in here preaching about what Warmer should and shouldn't be, and I disagree with you.

The whole point WAS to have strict rules! To be for the best of the best! To have anything else would defeat the entire point of this event... This is where your overwhelming sense of entitlement kicked in when I disagreed with you on this.

There's pure lie. Whether it was intentional or not, I don’t even know. "Preaching", "overwhelming sense of entitlement" - these are all wrong words. I explained my concept in as much details as possible: I am the customer, who just put a little review. You're the organizer, who can or can not accept that. The rest is your imagination.

You can give me suggestions! Though you cannot tell me how to run my own event.

That's actually what I did, – I gave some suggestions here. Besides I told you 2 times that it's your business and you can do it as you want. Looks like two times is not enough, do you need a third time?

Though, there are absolutely noobs in Warmers, and everything else in life, both objectively and subjectively. To believe there is not is delusional ignorance.

When did I say that I believe noobs don't exist? I just recommended you get rid of the WORD "noob" in your rhetoric, not noobs themselves (unless if you're a killer ofc  ). In order to avoid making the Warmer scheme even more unpopular by scaring people away. There's definitely something wrong with your perception of the general line of the dialogue.

You're the one attacking!

You said I shouldn't have made "strict rules" in the beginningso I justified why I should. In my eyes the whole event would be useless without these strict rules.

Yes, I said that you shouldn't have made so strict rules in the beginning. It's my honest opinion and I emphasized this many times: as you can see, my post with this SUGGESTION contains the word "IMO", I even used CAPS LOCK to emphasize this detail. Imo means "in MY OPINION" if you don't know. You may have a different opinion. But you don’t need to prove me that my opinion was wrong.

Then you got offended at the word "noob", you started saying that using this word is bad, when literally it's not a bad thing unless you want it to be.

I've never been offended at the word noob. Where did you even get such conclusions from? I don't care at all, and as I said, I'm always ready to admit that I'm a noob and I'm fine.

We're not talking about an official product that I am selling... I'd have to go through health & safety measures, and whatever other legal stuff in order not to get sued...

Emm, what? You can't even imagine the described situation. Health, safety measures, legal stuff... What's wrong with you?  Where did you get this from?
I suggested imagining the simple situation, where you are the marketer and I am the customer, because this is close to reality, because otherwise you're refusing to understand my message. Seems like everyone here has already understood the main message, except you. And only you're continuing to draw the strangest conclusions in your head.

Sorry, but that is delusionally ignorant...

Please don't mistake that and think that I am insulting you because I'm not! It's just a blatant fact because what you said is incorrect and quite delusional to think there isn't such a thing as a noob when there clearly is.

A noob literally means they are a beginner, that their skill level is of entry/basic level. I'm not going to call them anything else other than a noob, or a beginner, or that they have basic or a lack of experience.

Either way they all mean the same sort of thing, that they aren't even close to being good yet.

It has nothing to do with competing or not.

You didn't understand my message. You are taking everything too literally, although I meant something else. Although even here I could retort. There's some questions for example:
– What is entry/basic/good level? Are there any criteria that helps distinguish the basic level from the average?
– How can you determine the level of someone while playing Warmer? As I said, the Warmer is the scheme, where people just perform what they want to perform. Maybe someone just doesn't want to perform some masterful tricks.
– Everything in the world is relative. Is the watermelon big or small? If you compare it to an apple, then yes. If you compare it to the planet, then no. Is the "noob" relative or absolute term? Are the criterias of entry/basic/good level absolute or relative?

I don't expect the answers to these questions, because I don't want to argue. These questions are rhetorical for showing you that everything isn't as simple as you want.

I personally feel like people are too easy to insult and offend these days and that it's unhealthy to sugarcoat everything. Whether you call them a noob, or a beginner, or they lack skill, or that they aren't good enough yet, it's all the same thing...

People should not be taught and raised to be offended by failure or a lack of experience... Just tell them "Look, you're not very good right now, but if you enjoy it enough and keep practising one day you will be WAY above average!"

That's the truth, the truth should not be offensive.

I strongly believe in tough love, to specifically admire those who show strength, confidence and skill far more than anyone else. If you do anything but this, getting better doesn't have as much of an impact.

I didn't say that noobs don't exist lol. And I agree that the truth shouldn't be offensive. I was talking about the culture of rope freestyling and the warm, friendly atmosphere. I said that we should mentally eradicate the word "noob" in relation to Warmer and freestyling, because it can degrade the atmosphere and the culture. "Noob" is a bad label for many. If you don’t believe me, go to the open WormNet (out of friendly tus-games) and play random games with a guys, try to call them noobs and you will see the reaction.

Besides, how can you even be a noob at freestyle? If you have came to FREESTYLE, then you at least have basic skills.

That's why reaching top tier status all those years ago felt special, these days it's like they want to treat everyone like a winner even when they are a loser lol.

If there was a delusional ignorance somewhere, it is here. 

Nah... There is no way a noob is going to surprise anyone unless they are faking it, and if they are faking it then they have other problems in their life.

You are so sure that you are right that I don’t even want to disappoint you. 

I'm doing this for fun, it's my personal ambition and vision to create a very successful event with the best players that exist.

You have a good ambitions, I wish you good luck honestly. And I just wanted to help with the situation, because this event is so far from successful, like so far our planet from the Alpha Centauri. But instead of thinking about my words, you've began to argue and tried to prove that I was wrong. Ok, it's your business, do your own way.

It is impossible to have a successful event with the best players in an empty room. First of all, we need at least someone to fill this room... And I’m talking not about spectators.

He's going to ask some of his friends who might play. If this happens, I'll reactivate it. Fingers crossed!

Good news!

This is not an event for noobs, or anyone who is lazy, or people who are unreliable.

If we want to "resurrect" rope freestyling and the Warmer scheme, we need to get rid of the word "noob". There are those who can be mentors, and there are those who need a mentor. That's it. Otherwise, this scheme will continue scaring a new people away.

Oh nice, Freestyle cup, it will be interesting show! I wish GL to all participants!