Quote from: avirex on July 27, 2010, 07:53 PM
as u know, im from w2.. i thought ur guys rope sets were retarded from the start tbh... and this is not the first time i have tried to bring these sets to w:a..  (its just the first time anyone listens)

and as i have said in this thread b4, just because u have played a scheme for a long period of time, and its considered "classic" does not mean its perfect, and needs not improvement.

you can call the rope sets retarded, but it's probably the most played game outside of shopper that's been enjoyed for 10+ years.  that has to count for something.  I just don't want you guys to make people HATE rope with your 'retarded/silly/luckfilled' language just to make people start to like w2rope.

try to get people to like w2rope for its own merit, not because we have to HATE normal roper.

use those reasons you say in your last sentence, that you're 'trying to improve a long considered classic scheme that isn't perfect.'  say stuff like that and make it sound like w2rope is a nice alternative that people can enjoy.

Quote from: zippeurfou on July 27, 2010, 07:48 PM
Well, even if I think sometimes you get crate bashed it's not often. But you often play against people that will hide in top after 5 turn because they got the last 5 crate easy and could attack you when it wasn't your case (even if you didn't fall).
And hidding in top is imo lame and kill the game. So just for that this scheme is worth the shot imo since it avoids it.

it's not often, I agree.  I think more often is people making mistakes due to the crates, so we shouldn't be blaming crates like everyone is doing. we should be blaming ourselves and focus on playing mistake-free.

since you brought up the 'hide on top strat', I have to comment.  there is no rule about the 'hide on top strat' but you can help avoid frustration if you agree beforehand with your opponent about it.  I do enjoy playing without that strat, but I know that I can't force people to play it.  so if we both agree it's allowed before the game starts, then if I have a lead near the end, I use the strat, and hopefully they start to hate the strat if they start losing to it a lot

Quote from: avirex on July 27, 2010, 07:22 PM
franz, i obviously dont have games saved on archive lmfao... thats so stupid..

well then I still say that if you can't show a single game where someone didn't make any mistakes and still lost due to crates -> it rarely ever happens.

Quote from: avirex on July 27, 2010, 07:22 PM
besides, its harder to have a perfect game when all ur cr8s r hard right? u need to rush and maybe force a fall... so easier cr8s will win in that respect as well...

besides the point is not how often it happens, the point is to stop it from happening..  simple as that.

that's the thing..  part of the strategy of roper is keeping your cool and composure when getting hard crates and therefore not making mistakes when they do happen.  way too often people rush too hard for an impossible crate and force a fall like you say, then they complain "WTF CRATES."  did the crate make you fall?  no, you lost your cool and you made a mistake.  that ends up being much worse than the alternative -> get the crate and return safely.

I'm not bashing w2rope by the way, I'll usually play just about anything.  I just think you guys are bashing too hard the roper we've played and enjoyed for years.

Quote from: avirex on July 27, 2010, 07:14 PM
franz..  shy is not the only one who thinks it... more and more think it, and more and more are coming to see it, so chill...  stop PMS'ing

and yeah, i have seen perfect games b4.. who does the winner go to? the better cr8s.. duh

empty words without any replay(s)

Quote from: ShyGuy on July 27, 2010, 05:01 PM
@beer
Once again, for the 100th time, we aren't replacing roper, so saying we are changing a scheme is weak... you can always play your silly luck filled roper whenever you please.

You guys are bashing normal roper way too hard.. "silly luck filled roper"?  You make it sound like everyone who has played roper is an idiot for playing it because "why haven't they noticed how silly and luck filled it is?!"  Either that or you'll say anything just to make w2rope look good.

Show me one game where someone didn't make any mistakes and still lost due to crates.  I'm absolutely positive this is harder than you think.  Then prove that this happens all the time.  Because it doesn't.

really really wanted to sheep sui but forgot how much damage it did -.-
also could've sg sui..  gg

Quote from: franz on July 10, 2010, 12:28 AM
anyway, I think I found a possible cheap kb for anyone in the US/Canada/Israel if they want to try to get it.  only $20

Rosewill RK-800G Black 104 Normal Keys PS/2 Wired Gaming Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201038
http://www.rosewill.com/products/1580/productDetail.htm

do NOT buy this kb actually
it does let you press a lot of keys at once, but the spacebar and arrow keys are messed up.  it misses key presses when pressing the keys rapidly, so it's awful for roping.

For a cheap kb that actually works for roping, get a Dell SK-8110.  Just got one for $5

oh well if you had 2 shotguns.. yeah, I see what you're saying.

Quote from: ShyGuy on July 23, 2010, 06:50 AM
we'll never know... and that isn't the point at hand... the point is djflow of cfc, whether accidentally or not, quit by using alt + f4 which made everyone else desynchronize..

well sure you could see if technically by the rules you're allowed the win, but try talking with cfc instead of making enemies.  djflow just saw a patsy fail to win the game, so an alt+f4 out of frustration is likely isn't it? (dunno if he knows that this crashes, I didn't ;x  )

anyway, for all the trouble of the first game being a tie and then to end the 2nd game like that...?  if I were cfc, I'd give you the win.

alt+f4 always crashes game? or no?
in any case, good thing to know ;x

anyway, not a mod, but I'll check replay while I'm here..

mmm, shy if you have a 100% plan on winning this with some weapon and cfc agrees with you and willing to let you have the win, then ok.  otherwise, just void it and move on in my opinion.  maybe say some mean things and make djflow feel really really bad ;p

lol, love the rope+sheep and the teleport at end.  made me laugh

mir, your rope skunk sui totally makes up for your bng here ;p
napalm was huge too

nice sheep at end -.-
horrible end by me   and not mir's best bng day ;p

that airstrike.. ;(  thought for sure he was safe.. stupid mine ;p
still gg, just horrible last turns by me -_-

bad luck on those 2 landmines on the right.. but 100hp firepunch?  I'll take it ;p

Quote from: avirex on July 19, 2010, 03:07 PM
and btw franz... where did u find that pic? that is the EXACT map they used to play on... there was 1 more map if i remember, but that was the most popular.. lmfao some guy made a couple swoosh's zigs, and zags and they never played another map since ;P

http://www.wmdb.org/6377