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TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
« on: January 21, 2010, 07:56 PM »
Quote from: Twyrfher on January 21, 2010, 03:13 PM
One thing is "to cheat" and other is "to play better". The question is if macros, uwt, and 2 SB are cheating or not, no if they can improve your roping. For some people, experienced or not, it will help maybe, but that's another history. In sports the use of cocaine maybe will cause positive effects on your skills (at first, or maybe negative with time), however, the point there is to forbid those substances that are out of normal because they are even ilegal to get them, no because they can or not improve your skills, because in that case... creatine, protein supplement, or maybe a good pair of shoes, a new tshirt material made it on NASA, sun glasses, etc, would be cheating as well?.

- remaping it's like creatine, you are just using your body to make those taps.
- macros, uwt, C.Silkworm and shits are like an arm extension, a bionic extension or something, your body are not doing those taps.

Great post, however I disagree with your creatine example. Creatine would be more like putting a piece of paper under your spacebar so it doesn't have to travel as far.

2 spaces or 3 spaces is more like playing with aids. It doesn't help you win, its gay, and shouldn't be allowed in sports.

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TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
« on: January 19, 2010, 04:30 PM »
Quote from: ropacfc on January 19, 2010, 03:49 PM
Dub-C no macro program in existence will allow you to enhance your roping beyond levels you can already achieve without the macro. You can make a macro program that presses space 10 times for everytime you press it once and it will tap super fast, however, ultimately, it will not make you a better roper nor help you win a game.

Remapping your keys, or even having two keys act as space is totally legitimate since 2 spacebar keyboards already exist anyway.

Finger rolling is only really useful once you're just 1% away from roping maximun level achieved of awesomeness, everything before you can do with one finger, including max speed scrolls and shadows.

For the most part using a bunch of spacebars and a bunch of fingers is useless unless you're incredibly amazing already.

I agree with most of this except that you have to be amazing before starting to fr. Name one person who had absolutely mastered roping before using fr. but you are missing the point. What if someone uses 3 keys as spacebars? Is it then not so legitiment?

Saying it takes a lot of time and skill to learn is a mute point. It would take someone a lot of time and skill in order to make a program that would automatically throw perfect nades or perfect zooks.

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TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
« on: January 19, 2010, 01:20 AM »
Quote from: darKz on January 19, 2010, 01:13 AM
I don't think that using a remapping program for 2 spaces is cheating for the obvious reason that there are keyboards which actually have 2 space bars (or one "halved" space bar). So people with 2 spaces are just making up for a disadvantage in their hardware, and trust me using 2 spaces requires a great amount of practice before you can properly use it in league games.

Using macros on the contrary is cheating because a macro is actually doing the work for you (press space 2 or more times in a very short time).

My 2 cents. :)

Good post. I didn't realize some keyboards had a split spacebar.

What about someone who uses 3 keys as 3 spaces?


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TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
« on: January 18, 2010, 11:15 PM »
Quote from: beer on January 18, 2010, 10:53 PM
Cose its a technique that u have to waste lots of time to learn, and even if u do that, that dnt make u bettr then some one that only use one. its just a different style of roping.
This is what the 'culture' that i was taught in worms tells me

But doesn't a macro program that lets you shoot a second rope faster not serve the same purpose as using 2 keys as 2 spacebars?

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TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
« on: January 18, 2010, 10:49 PM »
Why isn't it?

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TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
« on: January 18, 2010, 10:27 PM »
Is there a difference between using a macro program to make a key = 2 spaces and remapping your keyboard to make 2 keys function as 2 spacebars?

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TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
« on: January 18, 2010, 09:35 PM »
Lets say a macro program.

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TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
« on: January 18, 2010, 09:19 PM »
Ok, so then the consensus answer then is, depends on the program?

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TUS Discussion / Re: Cheating
« on: January 18, 2010, 08:08 PM »
Does it matter?

Is using a program to play cheating?

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TUS Discussion / Cheating
« on: January 18, 2010, 07:56 PM »
Is using a program to play worms cheating?

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Schemes / Re: New rules for BnG
« on: January 13, 2010, 08:16 AM »
Ok, but what if someone plays not completely cheap, but much cheaper then you and beats you? Theres so many levels of what is cheap, what is playing properly that it doesn't work. You throw nades so they blow up on impact, the other guy throws nades so they bounce around your hide then blow. Its not a sitter, its legal. But cheap in many eyes.

What if two players are around the same skill. Who ever plays the cheapest is going to win then.



Its all stupid arguments that can not be avoided and never will be avoided no matter how much you try to define the rules.

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Schemes / Re: New rules for BnG
« on: January 12, 2010, 07:02 PM »
Quote from: GodiTo on January 12, 2010, 01:01 PM
Well... No rules would ruins the game fun too......
No rules is good aswell, for some people.
But there should be very basic rules, what can understand by "zillians" too (As someone said).
Maybe we should set a poll ? I vote for yes to make a poll XD

w2's bng community has been playing for well over 10 years and dissagree's that bng with no rules ruins the fun. All those guys do is bng, no other schemes at all.

Quote from: beer on January 12, 2010, 12:58 AM
ae dub. lol
ckc is just agains evrything that u said :D, funny

I am my own man

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Schemes / Re: New rules for BnG
« on: January 12, 2010, 12:18 AM »
w2 played bng with no rules now for ever. Not one argument. To me absolutely no rules is the best. 5 sec nades, sitters, and w/e.

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TUS Discussion / Re: Roper changes
« on: January 06, 2010, 11:54 PM »
Quote from: Ray on January 06, 2010, 10:26 PM
Quote from: devilage on January 06, 2010, 06:11 AM
Ray my man.. UR so right! the player does not do anything! so ppl could just stay hide or move a bit then drop a wep and comeback to their hides! so the other player tries to do w2w to attack and if he falls the wussy that doesnt wanna w2w suddenly start to rope to get the fallen player, u see my point now? gives unfair advantage because one is trying to w2w to kill and the other its just moving a bit and hidding again.
Well, I still believe that if a less skilled player tries to do that with a better skilled player, the better skilled will have the patience and the experience to either succefully carry out an attack in almost every turn or hide to a different place where the opponent feels that he can attack him and either falls or attacks but runs out of time to hide back to the lame hide. This is what I believe with my experience in Roper, hehe.

Well the better roper should have more health by sudden death so he can just hide up top and then easily attack every turn. GG

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TUS Discussion / Re: Roper changes
« on: January 06, 2010, 05:32 PM »
Quote from: MonkeyIsland on January 06, 2010, 12:41 PM
Quote from: Dub-c on January 06, 2010, 03:23 AM
OH since I mentioned w2, is there anyway to increase fall damage? That would add a lot more skill to the game.

Use TUS scheme editor. You can assign a big number for fall damage.

Don't think I'm smart enough to figure that out.

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