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Leagues Games Comments / Re: Game #233965, reported by danie
« on: September 19, 2022, 11:05 PM »Long live the Cluster!Both managed to find the weapon, therefore it was a fair, balanced game.
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Long live the Cluster!Both managed to find the weapon, therefore it was a fair, balanced game.
1. Every "weak" weapon that you find, will now serve you much greater. This time you can defend yourself better against Clusters, Shotgun & Banana.Like Nous told me, my scheme already does that.
3. Still debatable additions:Not debatable at all for me as this is a terrible setting for the scheme. With a freeze in the inventory, you totally remove the known tactic of invading your opponent’s cave when your opponent’s next worm to play is far away from their cave unable to defend the upcoming attack. If a player fails to protect their cave, it’s their problem. This weapon is featured in my SWs mole variant and it may protect your worms if used at the right moment (unless your opponent has petrol, but at least they can’t be banana-killed). If you’re still in doubt about this, just look at how Nous managed to ambush Magnificent in their last round in danie’s world cup; that’s at least the only example and also which is available publicly for download that I have off the top of my head at the moment.
- 1x Freeze in the inventory
Current powers of weapons (might change)Mine -96hp, Uzi -85/95hp, are you nuts? But ok, well, let’s go by parts:
Mine -96 hp
Uzi -85/-95 hp
Homing Missile -70 hp
Bazooka -70 hp
Dragon Ball -60 hp
Firepunch -60 hp
(new!) Handgun -60 hp
Trivia:I never saw danie, Nous or anyone else complaining about this in my scheme. Although there can be always games you never find good weapons no matter the scheme.
While TUS scheme is by far more superior to Hosting Buddy's one, many people still had to shrug off finding weaker weapons than their opponents. As a result, many people still wanted to fix TUS scheme.
FMA wanted to fix it by removing 1/2 of the weak weapons, which basically turned the game into a blood-thristy race for crates, since they were all much more likely to be clusters, shotguns and bananas. It was very apparent in my last games with Mazinger in which I had 2x Banana, 5x cluster and I didn't need to worry about anything. Upon taking 6 crates, the game stopped requiring tactics or skills to use the weapons well. Mole attacks lost their significance as well.lol @ blood-thirsty race for crates; that’s not true at all since math probability doesn’t apply to Worms. How many times have I picked so many crates and no clusters, and how many times I picked 1, 3 max and already found them? You still play as strategically as you do in TUS scheme. If you risk and something goes wrong, the result ends up being the same; there’s no going back after.
I knew that the probability to find all the useful weapons must stay identical to original TUS scheme. Mortar spawns are now simply just replaced with kickass Handgun(-60 dmg), probability of finding everything else stays the same. Since mine can't be freely placed (like Holy Granade), I made it slightly stronger than Holy (-96 hp). Firepunch/Dragon Ball are upgraded from -45hp to -60hp, still allowing you to send the enemy airborne, or down the tunnel. Uzi/Handgun will allow you to destroy any wall next to you, while still finishing off a weak worm. In my opinion all weapons can now co-exist being all a valid threatYou could still leave the mortar in the scheme as long as it’s the same power as it is in HB scheme. The power Ramone set for it is senseless. The weapon is already hard to use because of the required geography. I still chose to leave it out for these 2 reasons: 1) so people won’t complain it’s custom mole by changing the values and 2) because of rare opportunities to use it properly, so you’d still be better off finding a mine or something in most cases. But I’d actually prefer it in the scheme a lot more than a thousand different minigun sizes as it has its only unique functionality.
Hehehe, good joke. Well, I already told you that Fire Punch, Homing and Mine would be a disaster instead of any kind of improvement. As for Bazooka, again, I don’t see what the problem with that weapon even is. lolIs this supposed to be a different mole scheme, which will be played every now and then, or has the intention of improving the TUS mole scheme to be the preferred played scheme?
I don't have the capacity to decide which scheme is official on TUS website. Can it be decided anyhow? Not sure who is in charge of the official TUS schemes in the first place. While Firepunch, Homing Missile, Dragon Ball, Mine, Handgun would be a vast improvement, I still need to consult a few people about Bazooka's power.
I have mixed feelings about putting the prod there. It takes away the need to do these ultra precise mole pushes.Funny post.
Correct.One question : does "FMA" means " f@#! My Ass" ? I would like to know that.
I don't know, but my guess is Full Metal Alchemist.
No. In that case, you three would be tied and would need to play bo1 among yourselves as each of the three won 1 match.
if you remove Seenve from the game and restore my victory, then I have already passed on, and SIBASA and Ty3 should play
and it's also interesting why two people from the same clan play in one group - Is it an accident ?!Them being in the same group is coincidence as the players’ positions in the groups are drawn once the cup starts.
The whole situation with Seenve looks very suspicious. Once again I want to note that Seenve and SIBASA are from the same clan.It's true that it's possible to abuse the system like that, although I don't think SIBASA is the type of person who cheats from how I know him. Purposely or not is irrelevant as you must just wait to see what Mycy will decide. At least he already considered giving you an opportunity to keep fighting in the cup. Leaving Seenve and Uruguayo out might be the fairest resolution, but we'll see what he says.
How it looks from the outside - 2 teams in one group, one team specifically plays with the other in order to increase the rating of one, and does not play with the others, the tournament organizer counts these victories - this is pure deception, I did not expect this at the tournament. Plus Mycy removes my victory and says that I have to look for Ty3 and prove it.
Well... I suggested Requin vs Ty3 to Mycy, since Ty3 unfairly reported 2:0 instead of 2:1. I think it's a bit below the belt to omit replays. Also Requin's group didn't allow them to have 3 games, which is a standard when deciding that somebody is eliminated somebody isn't. In fact, they barely played any games (1 win&1 loss is not enough for an advancing verdict IMO).I’ve been assuming Ty3 didn’t post Requin’s won round because of his group note, so maybe Ty3 doesn’t even know a game is missing there:
CUP UPDATE:
Players advanced to Cup Phase. Requin vs Ty3 bo1 additional match. Winner advance. 1 week to do it.
Cup results updated. In Group 1 and 5 I've already marked winners and 2nd places based on victories and direct victories.
Best example is Group 1: Run have 2 played matches, Mazi 3. Why Run is on 1st place? Because he has direct win over Mazi. Even if he would loose in his 3rd match, Run and Mazi will have 2 wins and 1 losses but still Run beat Mazi. This is hard logic .
Same thing in Group 5. This is the rule I'm using in every Group. Of course you can still play your matches to complete your Pending Games.
In that case obviously not since the matches won number wouldn’t be the same among players. Then you wouldn’t need to use the extra rounds to untie. Number of rounds won is just a tie break system used in case players had the same amount of matches won. And if TUS didn’t care about extra round wins, their number wouldn’t be showing in the Won column. BlankASD and Liav are actually 2/5 there, whereas Mai is actually 2/4. If TUS didn’t care about the rounds, it’d just show 2 for each of the three.QuoteFirst of all, the way the score is counted is done by TUS’s own system
By that system anyone with 2:0, 2:0, 2:0 victories get "3/6", the same number that people get after having 2:1, 2:1, 2:1 or 2:0, 2:0, 2:1. You are basically just proving my point by refering to the TUS system. TUS doesn't care if you lost the round when winning, you are on equal position as somebody who won 2:0. Spare everybody's time and do your research next time.
So you are basically allowing victories to be "weaker or stronger" that is a total opposite of what group match should be.Being able to beat your opponent 1 round even in a lost match still means merit, therefore it CAN be used as extra points for tie breaks (as long as it’s not Bo1, but groups here are Bo3), because it means you were not as easily beaten. Losing 2-1 is better than losing 2-0.
You will never see that in any football cup. How about we start counting how many worms Mai had left with his victories, how many Health Points by % he kept? How about we start counting losses, not just wins, and then it would turn out Diogofelt would could give one extra loss to Liav, that he spared him of, and then what? That is so so flawed bro.You are saying a bunch of things I didn’t say there. Don’t mix things that happen inside the game with game results. And TUS’s tie breaks don’t count losses as you could see.
How about we start counting losses, not just wins, and then it would turn out Diogofelt would could give one extra loss to Liav, that he spared him of, and then what?That part’s a bit illegible. But they aren’t even in the same group anyway. You’re again mixing things here.
I wouldn't want to be in Mai's shoes. Cup is for people to explain things to each other via confrontation, often additional, not by avoidance and some micro statistics that would decide.Nothing wrong with different forms of justice, but I think they should be equal among all participants.
Mycy is 100% right that fundamentally they have 2/3 wins and all 3 should repeat. Since liav is not exactly in the cup now, them 2 fighting seems to be the only sensible thing to do.Sure the host could do that, but it wouldn’t be 100% fair for Liav for the reason I explained in my previous post.
If Mycy decides to do so, I can even let all 3 repeat their group games and I will agree to have my bracket win removed.I also agree with this way of resolving ties. Like I said, it’s another valid form of justice. If you don’t mind losing your progress in the cup to allow the 3 to compete among each other fairly, this is a reasonable option too.
Trick race would be more fun without too steep learning curve. I'd like to learn about more tricks but there's little to no information about those, but I have to admit that I haven't really tried to research, though that's the point I want to make really, nobody bothers to learn if it takes too much to even find tutorials on this.There are a few sites about tricks, but I don't recall them as I never needed them, but there is the FAW channel on YouTube that has videos showing how to do the tricks of some of the maps. Seeing from where to do and the trajectory of the worm/rope helps you on how to do them if you're already used to how the tricks are done in practice when it comes to bounce power and fingering (this comes more in handy for stricter tricks, even if you already know them), but if you also still need to learn that, I'd say it's best to play TR alongside experienced players so you can ask for hints on tricks in particular as you attempt them in the game, and this is how I learned and got into it; you actually don't really need tutorials if you have people to play with.
Please kindly close this f@#!ing cup ...No, don’t do that!
Trick race is bullshitThat’s a brainless argument right there, but coming from you, I take it as a joke.