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And what about France? fada?
Or other parts of big russia, Dmitry?
guuria or greatprofe about Brasil?
MI and the maybe misunderstood Iran?

This thread was out of the "Latest Posts" so I revive it, don't wanna lose it, and the only threads that at least I read are the ones shown under "Latest Posts"

Off Topic / Re: ALL METAL FANS POST HERE!!!!!

« on: May 22, 2014, 08:15 PM »

Finish black metal

Off Topic / Re: The Big Religion/God Debate

« on: May 22, 2014, 01:37 AM »

Quote from: HHC on May 21, 2014, 11:50 PM

They have become lazy, spoiled hedonists who care only about their personal pursuit of happiness.

What easy come easy go... when you have all for free, some people don't give a shit about work hard for their stuff, what for...
Nice posts guys, hope new wormers comes here with their experiences from their countries :D

Off Topic / Re: Do you like your country?

« on: May 21, 2014, 12:40 AM »

Quote from: lalo on May 20, 2014, 06:11 PM

Where are you buying at Twy? I pay less than 3 euros for a pint of heineken in a more than decent pub in the middle of Las Condes -one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Chile- and 11 euros for a large pizza, with a 1.5 L coke and appetizzer at Dominos pizza too. I guess you live in Antofagasta .
I worked in a call centre for a short period of time for 900€ gross.

Education is damn expensive while the teachers salary is a joke, though everyone can afford it getting a loan.
I disagree with your statement about poors. A lot of my friends were raised in middle-low class families and now are engineers, lawyers, etc.

Regarding eastern europe countries, I liked them way more than others like Italy and Belgium for example! Maybe because they look poor But it is clear they are lagging behind in Europe and even comparing them with southamerican countries like Chile or Argentina.

Well yeah, I live in Concepción, it's pretty expensive in some stuffs compared to Santiago. Some months ago I had some beers in some pubs at El Golf and they weren't too expensive as some popular bars here in Concepción... lol yes @ Antofagasta. Anyway, my usual bar is the cheapest of the area, 1 Liter of "Escudo" (a cheap beer) cost 2 Euros, it's almost impossible to find any cheaper here, but a little bottle of Corona cost what I said here, maybe a little more in some more exclusive pubs.

900 Euros for a call center? wow, that's a lot man, that's 3 times the minimun salary of Chile. Anyway I was putting just some examples only, I've rejected some callcenters job for the payment that I said. Mi mother was an University teacher (with License grade), her best salary at her last year was like 600 Euros ... :/

About poverty, my idea was that with "some money you can make some money", not that only rich people could be become rich aswell. And I said "money" in a manner to say "education" actually, cos as u said, I know a lot of families too with education but without money, and their childrens could study with loan from the bank.

Off Topic / Re: Mug shots / Post your face !

« on: May 20, 2014, 03:24 PM »

Hey Kins, you looks like a young Manuel Pellegrini :D

Off Topic / Re: Do you like your country?

« on: May 20, 2014, 03:15 PM »

hmm, here in Chile you have this costs:

Minimun salary by goverment: 273 Euros monthly for 45 hours per week. Typical jobs for that payment are for example the guy/girl who weights the cheese, ham or stuff in the supermarket, or to attend a small grocery shop, maybe like a painter of small houses, working at call centers, security guard in a small bar, and all the small works on supermarkets or big retail stores.

1 Gallon of gas = 4,42 Euros.
1 Kg of bread (highly consumed here, maybe the base of every chilean family daily diet) = 1 Euro.
A bus ticket for a travel of 500Km (-.- xD) = 13 Euros.
An airplane ticket for the same distance = 65 Euros.
A ticket for a movie on cinema = 4.5 Euros.
1 small beer on a mid expensive bar = 3,25 Euros
1 large pizza at Dominos (pepperoni special) = 13 Euros
A Toyota Yaris 2014 mechanical gearbox = 10.270 Euros

Some other salaries (aprox of course... it varies depending the enterprise, CV, luck, contacts, etc):

Mechanical Engineer at first year: 1000 Euros
At 5 years: 3250 Euros
Teaching at University with master degree: between 1400-2340 Euros depending the quality and prestige of the Univ.
Medical Doctor with 5 years of experience, working at public hospital (bad services): 2000 euros
And at private clinic: 4000 or more.
A junior webmaster: 500 Euros.
Senior webmaster or IT developer with lastes technologies, certificated: 1000 Euros if you are employed, and maybe 2000-2500 if you have your own business.
A maid house: 300-500 Euros (poor-medium family or rich family

BUT Education!!!!?

?

That's expensive as fUUCk here compared with the salaries. Some examples:
- Computer Engineer (6 years of total study): 1 year costs 3250 Euros (lower cost on a poor/bad University), 4200 on a classic or more prestigious University.
- Medicine (7 years): 1 year at 3900 to 10.000 Euros depending the University.
- Architecture (6 years): a little bit less than Medicine.
- High School could be public (free) or private. Private schools are between: 200 Euros per month to 800 Euros per month (that's what my brother pays for each of his 3 sons)

Every family has to cost the education of their sons, you can ask some "credits" to banks or govement (they only act as an intermediary between you and the bank) and then you could pay only the 5% to 50% monthly depending how poor you can accredit it, or what social problems could you have (unemployed parents for example, dead parents, etc), then, when you starts to work, the goverments (or private banks) starts to charge you automatically that asked credit till the debt is finished. Imagine... the main salary in Chile has to be between 390 or 900 Euros per month,that's the range of payments what most families have.

Here: if you have some money, you can make some money; if you are poor, u are doomed to be poor and also all your sons.

Off Topic / Re: Do you like your country?

« on: May 19, 2014, 04:51 PM »

@KiSH : I know a lot of the problems of your country man, I'm working at an ONG that are making some work there, campaings against social problems like kids under 12 years old doing heavy works with more than 50 hours per week for... 3 US Dollars per week, etc. Bangladesh (Dhaka) has some serious, serious problems, it's very sad.

I like Chile personally because I live very good here, I had education, money, good family, etc, we have a lot of beautiful landscapes from the north to south, a lot of beaches, mountains, etc. You can take an idea by viewing the TaG's space on tus.

Besides that, imho we don't have too much problems COMPARED with other sudamerican countries, or latin countries (here we have to count Central America, bl Fenice, and Mexico.). Of course we are still a 3rd world country, a lot of poverty, low rates of unemployement tho, but that's falacious cos a lot of the jobs here has bad payments, lot of hours per week, bad conditions, etc, but at least there are a way to win some money...

Politicians are crap of course, but imho aren't that crap as other places. The rates of corruption are low according to those suspicious international studies xD but I've been related to some politics here in mi city (and some friends aswell) so I can speak from here, and it's like I said.

A big problem of Chile is the natural centralism that we have due our special geography, we are too long, too much long, and thin as f@#!. So the cities here are way far from each other, for example, I'm at 500Km far from the capital (Santiago), that's 5 hours at car (6 ar bus) and that's very near... Imagine other cities where are like 1000, 1500 or 2000 far away from Santiago, and sadly a lot of things like job, cultural events, concerts, business, etc, are mainly focused and made there.

We have "flaites" (aka reN`s... j/k (not)), but that's a latin american problem, so there's no need to complaint about it. You don't have to mess with them if you don't want, but day by day it seems they are taking a lot of terrain xD but well.

Overall I like Chile, people are very special, our humor it's very weird yet direct (and harsh), we are always speaking with jokes and double-sense, we have a lot slangs, too much, we could be talking with 99% of pure slangs and other latin american countries won't understand a shit about what are we talking about (except Argentina and maybe Perú, they know some part of them)

Off Topic / Re: Do you like your country?

« on: May 18, 2014, 04:57 PM »

Good answers guys :D, glad that this thread is taken in a good way. I'll post my opinion about Chile later, g2g now

Off Topic / Do you like your country?

« on: May 17, 2014, 02:59 AM »

Do you like your country? and why.

Take the question as you want, whatever point of view is ok. The question could be kinda ambiguous but that's ok, answer as you want.