u can play wa on a mac?? these things u talk about are like window platforms to run it on?

Yea

Overall i do think the HHC system is an improve on the current system. We should put it into place and see how it goes!

Quote from: DarkOne on February 13, 2011, 06:58 PM
And perhaps your rating shouldn't depend mostly on the last 10 games you've played, but rather on the entire collection of games you've played through the season; the effect of beating Random in an elite at the start of the season is entirely lost after about 10-20 games, but if your last elite was against Random, you can see a huge boost in your rating.

Are you saying HHC's plan doesn't cover this situation well? Becuase of the potential point difference of beating random during the start of end of a season?

What is the solution for this HHC, franz et al because beating random in elite at the start of the season is going to be just the same as the end. But the points u gain from this may vary  due to when you play him, isnt that a little unfair?

Will there be no change to overall calculations? So if random00 did lose to a noob he will still lose alot of points in his overall.

I hope this is the case, then you will get a more accurate stats for overalls and how much you would win off random00 if he went on a losing streak.

He loses to a noob. Loses 25 seasonal. But loses 60 overall. So players playing random wont gain as much if he has a some bad results due to his lower overall.

Yea i agree with the football example. Also because the points u win/loss come from the overall of your oppenent there is no handicap on those players having a greater overall at the start of the season?

You'll see the greater loses of points as your seasonal catches up with our overall but that is fair because thats how your preforming over the season!

May question tho is it hard for a player like zippo, random, dulek to gain points over a period of time compared to average lower allrounders? Is there any form of handicap for anyone with a greater overall? Or is there any kind of reward for someone with a greater overall? I still think that your overall should be worth something?? Players have done alot to deserve that. Shouldnt atleast 2 spots of overall make the playoffs if they have done the necessary games and winning %?

But with the seasonal points calculation you are likely to see them reaching a playoff spot anyway because of the seasonally points they will gain from making the 50 games and winning % anyway?

therefore not making my concern an issue?

So if you have a high overall it won't effect the amount of points you gain or lose because you are only taking into account the overall of your opponent??

Could you in theory go pro hunting to just gain points off higher ranked overall players?

What are the point differences like if random00 loses games against players with a lower overall/season?

Shouldnt in theory i deserve to win more points off random than csongi because he is of a similar skill level (from his overall being closer to randoms)??

I have been trying to read this thread for over a week now. Its been hard but i want to give my opinion on the matter. There are still methods to this new system that i am abit confused over.

First of all i agree that the tus system does need a change, but i agree due to different reasons. My opinions are similar to RoK. I agree that there is a massive advantage for players to gain seasonal points and to make PO spots easly and how players with a high overall ratings are discouraged from playing.
But we do have the number of games and winning precentages for a reason and thus RoKs first post of placing more focus on overall and viewing the standings differently was something i would of agreed with. I think its fair for players like zippo and random00 to keep making playoffs every season if they meet the requirements because they deserve these spots based on their great overall performances within the TUS league.

The problem that i see with tus for the players who have ratings which are not low so they cant gain easy seasonal points, but not the highest like random00 and zippo and struggle to make the top 4 overall points. The players who are between the top 25-10 overall ratings, it can be hard for them to make the seasonal points, and harder to get the top 4 overall.

Therefor i would of agreed with roks idea of changing the system to make more po spots for overall, and a couple of places for seasonal, however this would just minimc the FB system and that lost activity because people were tired of seeing the same top overall players making playoffs and noobs/not best allrounders felt they couldnt reach those top end of the overall ranking.




So i read HHCs plan with interested, i like how seasonal points are calculated and it seems like a fair enough way, but what i dont understand is that if no playoff spots are determined from an overall rating (because these are being kept to determine the seasonal points u gain) then how does having a high overall rating not become a disadvantage?

If you seasonal points are calculated with seasonal and overall, surely its a handicap to have a higher overall? It means your going to lose more points regardly because you are ranked higher than a noob, which is fair, but isnt it giving noobs and new players an advantage at the start of every new season when the seasonal points are reset back to 1000? I think i understand you can play enough games and you will catch up sesonally to your overall but im still confused.

I would like that explained.. i tried to find an answer but it still feels that way. I think having this system put in place is a good idea, it creates a solution to the seasonal points problem of the current ELO rating but i still think a couple of playoff spots should be assigned to your overall rank because i feel there is that disadvantage to anyone with an amazing overall they are going to gain less points? prehaps i have the run end of the stick?

Quote from: Komito on February 11, 2011, 10:25 AM

Quote from: avirex on February 11, 2011, 12:45 AM
as far as myself, i never repeat a map EVER...

Funny that, remember our Clanner Playoffs? You used that cavern Shopper map with the monkeys, and you used it in Singles also.

There is nothing wrong with using the same map a few times.

Stop trying to control how other people enjoy the game, it's just not right

MARIO SHOPPER MAP FTW!

i think spaazi did a great job in turning this game around, gj

check the 2nd replay.. i had it won.. draw from fly worm and grave damage on my second worm...

hooray for the clan leader award.. again  SPW came close tho!

lol, ive seen some CKC lisence plates before, but never a 666 one!

hi mteam!

or CKC..

maybe an ip address got blocked :p