Quote from: SPW on May 17, 2010, 01:36 PM
QuoteBnG is more than just shooting to win
And thats the problem. Our Playoffgames vs ckc and doH were horrible to play, coz other mentalities hitting eachother.
Our game was not that bad. I heard the one you had vs doh was much wrose. Although you were upset because they 4sec full powered? Nothing wrong with these shots. Can teleport to avoid them. The bng playoffs CKC had against bor when crash was playing for bor was horrible. He was not even reaiming before his shots. I remember in xtc we had to have a bng playoff game voided because Mil2 decided to ignore the rules on a deciding shot and just locked the last shot on us and didnt reaim. I didnt mind the playoff bng vs you and random00. No one broke the rules. I did have a bank shot that relied on a back bounce back onto random00. My shots were timed well and i was changing between 2-3 possible options to increase the distance and then have it bounce backwards so the timing was according to the pushes i was causing on him. Once I had evened the score and he teleported closer to me and finished me was a prefect 3sec I have no reason to complain. You guys won fair and square. I played within the rules and i was not that cheap. I kinda think you were all overreacting because to be honest... you guys care alot about losing. Which is not a problem. Your the most succesful clan on TuS at the moment.
But there is a problem, the highly competitive league that tus is now a days its hard to keep your style in bng at times. Some players still know how to notch and i think maybe if a clanner involving 60 odd points, or a playoff deciding game for the championship you may see you start to drop some of your style in bng to go for the win.
But komodo makes some good points. Good bngers will still know more shots and have more shot options because they have taken the time to win. So thats where i think its good to have those rules on darksiding well defined because if a good bnger is getting repeated by lame nades and shots of a lazier player he can take a harder hide (unlimited teleports) and use a good bank, This forces more difficult shots to be taken against the worm which is well protected.
To say bng needs to be removed from classic is just stupid. Any good bnger who is getting lamed, still should be good enough to come back and win. I don't really know what my is point. Talking about nrbng is an ongoing debate, i can see why people want it, i wouldnt play it. I maybe think why bng has lost some of its sportmanship is because of ladder systems. If im gonna lose 72 points for a bng im gonna wanna play harder to keep those points. Its alot to drop. If it wasnt a rating system and 3 points for a win/loss and could don i may play with abit more honour. Competition is the devil's breath in bng. Sadly i don't feel like the honourable bnger i used to be. But sometimes i feel like that because of the way worms has changed, and when someone is cheaping me, being lame or generally not being nice and insulting me loads i'll make it as difficult as i can for them to kill me.
I can be nice tho, and i more than half of my games i never have any problems. Ive got the highest overall bng rank on tus. Search the complaints and i think i only made 1 complaint regarding a game. Its a shame bng is not as popular as roper or ttrr, then i could get more points for wins as others would have an equally high rating!
This is all making me sound like a hypocrite, stubborn and an ass. BnG is is a great scheme, alot of players know how to bng well and you can still get alot of great games. CKC and CF have had some and we still respect eachother even if we've flaked at times, but we still say gj, n and gg when its over. This thread is about changing the rules, and defining that darksiding rule, allowing for closer teleports than half the screen distance will make bngs better. Sometimes players teleport into the middle of the map and it results the other team having barely any hides. MI has asked me to write these rules for tus and he'll update them. Which is cool. I don't think there is an argument anymore. If nrbng was a classic scheme i think it is so different it would be fair to have it seperate like wxw and shopper as they are different schemes. Anyways. early morning post and alot of stuff in there for me to get smited! Peace