Ok

be awesome if i could put @crash and @fr4nk and they were made aware of this! To the power of social enterprise and tus forums?

Hi mm

any feedback to this tuesday|??

Quote from: Mablak on July 14, 2012, 08:34 PM
There's not much chance of getting anyone's attention in a matter of one day :e

Well... crash, frank and myself will show. Im sure we can make any day. Lets go with Tuesday?
The soon the better as deadline is coming up? We don't want a penelty for next season..

Reso, long time, what you doing here? lol

Quote from: Mablak on July 13, 2012, 04:16 AM
Wuzz the deal mm and CKC?

I've asked crash and frank to get back to you, we'll turn up for rr and our potential last pick.

Just off the top of my head, how does tomorrow evening sound?

Quote from: ropa on July 08, 2012, 12:13 PM


edit: the 2 viable options to stop most of the drama of the scheme are
a) limit teleports
b) give more HP to worms

Certainly think limiting teleports is worth a good. It would put alot more focus on nicer jetpack moves once your teleports have run out

go FB scheme. Cinek said t17 is long a boring, but this game i hope you had fun

Quote from: Komito on July 08, 2012, 11:08 AM

Quote from: Chicken23 on July 08, 2012, 11:02 AMIts a shame noobies pick this scheme because they think they have a chance of winning it, but shame to the pros to losing to noobs haha.

Do you really think people choose Hysteria just because they think they have a chance of winning it? Anyone truly skilled in Hysteria would realise the better player will usually win, just like Roper.

Dunno, im just going off what Darkz and ropa said on page 9. Apparently Darkz thinks noobs pick it because its a scheme they arn't good in but think they stand a chance because of the luck and gamble. Just like why dark used to pick T17

This is sad to see...

mm, you had a situation where cfc stopped mid way through the playoffs and you weren't too happy with the situation, i can understand why CKC is upset that you wanted a break to warm for the rr.. You don't really do that throughout a playoff session and Dub-c is right in saying if we knew all games weren't going to be finished, then maybe CKC would of gone and warmed before the bng.

What a mess.. 

After reading on and skimming over the crap i see what your saying now Darkz. Its a shame noobies pick this scheme because they think they have a chance of winning it, but shame to the pros to losing to noobs haha.

But seriously, shy's post was execellent and i can see why the scheme has issues. HHC sums everything up so well, if you have a suggestion for a scheme variation, make the tweaks and start using it, ask your opponent to agree and try to make that scheme popular. Thats how all other schemes evolved over the years, and like you said aswell shy, its what W:A has done well so far. Hysteria is a new league scheme, so its bound to have some changes along the way, all other league schemes are way different to their originals now.


What would happen if you had worm select like t17? Then piling wouldn't be anywhere near as powerful but with 1second turn time it would still require some skill to select worm and pull off your move..

Quote from: Komito on July 07, 2012, 08:02 PM

Quote from: franz on July 07, 2012, 07:18 PM
lol, well komo that option does not really fit

"Which of these is the best Hysteria SD timer?"

TuS should just let players agree on whatever rules they want f@#! sake, it'd stop all this drama...

Like, they use the TuS schemes as a template, and remix it whatever way they agree on...

This is what i do, its legal as long as your opponent is aware and both agree. Otherwise you have to use default tus schemes

10


If you voted for 1 or 2, why? Turns can accidently be failed and this could cause sd before someone wanted it. Forcing sd before someone wants is bias towards the lightsiding tactic.

It's not hard to avoid attacks and tick the timer down to sd if you want to. If you don't want to do that tactic you also have the option of attacking. Don't force people into playing a certain style, let them play a scheme to their own style and tactics if they wish to do so.

Quote from: darKz on July 07, 2012, 11:29 AM

Quote from: Chicken23 on July 07, 2012, 11:20 AM
How is it not a problem to ignore it? You don't have to play the scheme, those that do can enjoy it. Why does it bother you if the scheme is shit if your not playing it?

TUS anyone?
I will TUS
What's your pick?
Hysteria
TUS anyone?



It's got flaws, very obvious ones, but people just keep coming here and ignoring that fact completely.

Let's just leave it like it is, maybe add Boomrace and Burning Girders to classic league.. Why not, you can just ignore it. ANARCHY!

Your exaggerating though, free league schemes never have enough popularity to become classic league schemes. Alot of people will play hysteria without any problems? How else is it having alot of picks in the league?

Quote from: ropa on July 07, 2012, 11:43 AM
I find it disrespectful that people tell other people to avoid hysteria if they don't like it knowing there's an avoiding rule in circulation.

These avoiding rules are new and i'm not fully up to speed with them.  (pretty poor moderating on my behalf but the amount of time i get to visit tus forums isn't too high and i don't read every thread... look how long this one has become) but regardless..

If i go
"TUS anyone expect RR?"
isn't that within the new rules?

Quote from: darKz on July 07, 2012, 11:19 AM
Did you miss the last part of my post?

Just ignoring the problem is not gonna help. Hysteria needs to either be reworked (I wouldn't know how, the concept involves infinite teleports so it's going to be the same flaws no matter what you tweak) or put into free league again.

I missed the last bit of you post 

How is it not a problem to ignore it? You don't have to play the scheme, those that do can enjoy it. Why does it bother you if the scheme is shit if your not playing it?

Quote from: darKz on July 07, 2012, 11:02 AM

Tom:
The thing is, if you leave the broken scheme in the classic league then people are forced to play it if their opponent picks it. If I could avoid it completely I couldn't care less and just let people enjoy their pile of shit scheme. And no, simply not playing against people who pick Hysteria is not gonna fix it either, it's time consuming enough to find games sometimes, then it would be even more so.

So again, it falls back to picks. This is why i believe both picks should be chosen before the first game starts. If you can't agree on picks before the game starts, find another opponent. If you don't want to play hysteria, don't play it.

And if you agree before the first game starts, and then avoid the pick it justifies a fake report. If you started first pick without knowing the second pick its kinda your own fault. But if you ask for both picks before the first game starts.. simply don't play an opponent that wants to pick a scheme you don't want to play. I don't see that as avoiding. Its lame, but its legal in my opinion. Theres plenty of other players to play and schemes to be played. With this system, inter can be introduced into the league without any problems too.