True, well done, funny things and nice ideas! But there are missing comics with Peja ... (Would be too nice if his 1 sec full power nade with ploping his own high hp worm would be more famous, there could be soooo nice insiderjokes!  )

-1 sebha and dead for being not even intelligent enough to report correct (it was a 50% chance to pick the right replay this time, ) AND always being too lazy to fix their failed reports. Ty anyway for showing our victory again https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-103145/

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-1 K4Tsis for his childish behaviour at the Neocombat Cup again and again and trying to make DumbBongChow stop hosting cups because of annoying people like him, although DumbBongChow put so much effort in all that, like long descriptions, trying to make games as fair as possible and examplevideos (very well done with that)!

+1 DumbBongChow

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No, old replays doesn't count, bad try Chelsea. He has a very noobish behaviour, same he did to me. He said he let me win 2-0 because he has no time for bo5, then I said, no I won't accept a freewin and tryed many times to contact him. Then we played a bo3 when I was very sleepy and with random placement, because he quitted when we alrdy started the game at my host with manuell placement.

He is just afraid of losing, he alrdy told that to me at some funners after that try to avoid the cupgames with me, too. He was practising this scheme for hours but still thought and thinks he's not good enough. Real pathetic, I don't get why he joins a cup!

He is good in this scheme, like I said I played this scheme several times with him some days after our cup. It is like a 50% chance for him to win, too and it would be definitively close and interesting if you two play.

But this all is very 

Well done with ur clansite. I'll added ur site to snooper  

-1 Peja for being Pejathetic.

+ Tomi, I like to play tus with you =)  You are klug (=

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Hmm, now we have 2 forumtopics about this ... I just posted a long answer under that shopper game, so pls look here: https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102248/msg109103/?topicseen#new

Anyway thank you for all this, DBC (DumbBongChow), you are a detailed person and this is special, espeacially if this effort is used to fight for more fairness.


And to Peja: To talk with Peja about Rope-Games is like talking with a virgin kid about sex experience which they never had

Ah, I see.

Well, I prefer to be direct but of course I could formulate it more friendly. I just had to curse at start because I hided as good as possible and had enough experience not to hide in that tight hide with my worm which lost -103 hp from flamer b4 my game started. But although my hide was correct the game started too unfair.  -103 hp means that are 3 normal attacks in one. So without luck and/or fails from the opponent it would've been impossible to win that game.

So I almost lost before my game started...

If I would have had just 1 bigattack weapon less at the end he would've won this game with luck, although I would've had 100 % the same skill. Just a mine instead of a dyna would've changed the victory already.

A good thing is ... you can play 15 games in a session, so if u lost some games by bad luck u will win some games by luck, too ...

Just in the impossible case that both could play a game perfect (always make the most possible -hp to the opponent and always play tactically perfect), the statistik shows 100% who had more luck only and not whos better, because both are 100% same perfect.


It is not possible to fix, it just can be belanced more. Even to balance the scheme more has a big problem: That one who have 1 turn more will win 99 of 100 games if he would play failfree.


Another good thing is, that nobody is perfect (yeah true, I'm just close that (dream?!) ) so that you can always hope that the opponent fails 1 time too much so that you can still win close.

The best way is to play as many games as possible, then the luck will come closest to 50% to you, too

Ty, but ...  2012-02-29 18.11.32 [Online] @DENnis`FD, aAa`K4Tsis.WAgame 

Well after he quited we wrote the following things in blueroom, so it was my own fault. Today I played bad and it is ok that he is in final.

[2012-02-29 18.12.36] ••• DENnis`FD is joining a game on DirectIP named "", hosted by Direct IP
[2012-02-29 18.12.37] ••• Successfully joined game. Players are: aAa`K4Tsis, DENnis`FD
[2012-02-29 18.12.45] [DENnis`FD] hey, it was the correct scheme
[2012-02-29 18.12.54] [DENnis`FD] did u not read the instruction?
[2012-02-29 18.12.56] [aAa`K4Tsis] I have correct
[2012-02-29 18.12.56] • Game will take advantage of the latest 3.6.31.0 features and bug fixes
[2012-02-29 18.13.05] [aAa`K4Tsis] Instruction?
[2012-02-29 18.13.10] [DENnis`FD] from dbc
[2012-02-29 18.13.12] [aAa`K4Tsis] I all time play it
[2012-02-29 18.13.12] [DENnis`FD] he wrote
[2012-02-29 18.13.16] [DENnis`FD] bo5
[2012-02-29 18.13.21] [DENnis`FD] and manual placement
[2012-02-29 18.13.27] [DENnis`FD] for knockout
[2012-02-29 18.13.46] [DENnis`FD] but bo3 and random is ok with me too
[2012-02-29 18.14.02] [aAa`K4Tsis] First time hear it, if he decide that its bad, so your win. I dont have so many time.
[2012-02-29 18.14.07] [aAa`K4Tsis] play default scheme
[2012-02-29 18.14.10] [aAa`K4Tsis] and its good
[2012-02-29 18.14.25] ••• Starting game, recorded as file "User\Games\2012-02-29 18.14.25 [Online] aAa`K4Tsis, @DENnis`FD.WAgame"
[2012-02-29 18.26.34] ••• Starting game, recorded as file "User\Games\2012-02-29 18.26.34 [Online Round 2] aAa`K4Tsis, @DENnis`FD.WAgame"

Haha, you say don't complain too much about luck (yes, I try that hard, but I'm very ambitious!) but  YOU opened this Forumtopic

To this topic .. I just can quote my message:

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-102248/#msg109006


And to the weapons which should be changed: Like others said, it sux to have a difference from about -30 hp (like firepunch) to -200 hp (flamer).

It would be a much better scheme to balance it more. I always prefer skill, I won't and don't want to play Lotto and hope to win by luck.

For funners everything is ok, there I have superweapons in my funscheme to make it more varied and funny.

But for serious games ... it should show whos better and not who has more luck.

To make the -hp differenz lower helps to remove the luck-problems a bit.

Quote from: DumbBongChow on February 29, 2012, 03:57 AM

What an absurd comment... but AW C'mon Dennis!!! You always complain WAAAY too much about luck! That's just part of the game in WA which happen in most of the schemes. There are ppl who suffer from far more vicious bl than that. (This is why ppl say BL or VBL very often to their opponent.) Sure, scheme can be better and more balanced, but you should directly talk to people who created the scheme and/or talk to ppl who regulate the classic league before actually playing the scheme kind of like how you did with my Triple Shopper scheme.

Anyways, I've posted about the shopper scheme in league complaint Dennis. You should definitely check it.
https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/complaints/tus-classic-league-shopper-scheme/

The only absurd thing here are ur bouncing faces


Well, not reasonable to discuss about facts. Very many games are won or lost mainly by luck. To the end of the game I had more luck and used it good. It is impossible to make a real fair- and skillscheme out of a scheme where are crates or where is random placement and turnadvantage (To have a whole turn less in a game sucks most and is the biggest problem, which is only fixed in ANTI-Luckschemes like ttrr, Bungeerace, SuperSheepRace, Big Rope Race and Tower Race, where both have the same many turns. Everybody would complain, too, if he/she has 1 turn less in a ttrr.

The real luckproblems can't be fixed anyway, so just hope that the Theory comes true and everybody get 50% luck and 50% bad luck after uncountable many games.

Hey,

first my game started with -103 hp. Of course I was pissed off then already, so that I failed 1 turn and I got blocked twice. It was 100% impossible to move in any direction (I never seen such a clumsy map b4 ... I just pick random maps which I don't know).

It looked like a 90% safe victory for my opponent.

He was leading almost the whole game and it really looked very bad for me.

But I could do one 100% block, too and later I got wormchange.


Although his big advantage I had an unbelievable come back, so I just want to tell everybody - especially myself:

NEVER GIVE UP BEFORE THE GAME IS REALLY 100% OVER!!!


Thank you for this experience and to everybody who wants to watch this strange unexpected game: HAVE FUN and get a lot of motivation out of this

Love,

:·DENnis

Hey, I'm sorry but today it would get too late. We were both online and now he has time but I'll have a meet and go offline (watching two and a half men). We will play it tomorrow, then I won't go to my sport and can play 1,5 hours longer than today.

  Not pro .. had about 2 fails, but after that long annoying hysteria nobody had enough concentration nomore I guess Thank you anyway!

u r too young for that go to the silent stairs and think about it XD