Looks like i reported Vs Orel Twice >< Someone fix that ?

Quote from: Thouson on March 26, 2010, 12:50 PM
If a 2v2 cup havent so many players(max 32).Its possible host Private 2v2 cup.But a Public is really hard...

Well i can host a ctf 1v1 cup to. I bet some mod can help me judge drops and other things like that ^^

Ok guys and gals. If you want me to host a ctf cup i will be more than happy to do so =)

Most definetly wfw. I think it is a common free scheme and getting atleast 16/20 ppl shouldn't be a problem. Make sure you have a mappack with 10-15 maps and anti fort rule and in addition have 3 worm selects =D

Great. I allways prefered playing on premade complicated elite maps. Sometimes starting is a huge advantage on random maps ^

He He waht a suprise, this scheme rocks. Im so glad i joined because imho jetpack hyst is way better than regulair hyst. I really like that the scheme has limited teleport and cowsN hhg- No need to remove the hhg.

I hope this scheme will be added in free leauge =) Well done Uzurpator !

Quote from: van on March 22, 2010, 05:43 PM
1. yup, but knowing that somethings is possible to do, doesn't mean it should be done, right?
2. Simply a guy who finds your helpless posts annoying, grins and bears with it, but, well, that couldn't take forever.
3. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending dt (lol), I wasn't speaking of this particular complaint, but in general, although you're wrong in here too, because this thread is about draws and what tus should do with them in the future, not the attitude itself.

If you want to continue the discussion, PM me, I'm done here.

edit: @NAiL, yeah I agree, if he was provoking him then it makes the matter quite different (but still check out his earlier posts in complaint forums),
although his personal feelings should have nothing to do with this complaint. It's not hard to ignore dt, 99% of worms community does it

O really ? I bet the 99 percent of the community lurks in irc all day. not that it matters. This is a case of a person taking a win he enver had just because i didn't want to finish a game that has allready been finished. He got banned from NNNL for having 3 accounts there and playing in the leauge with all 3. Quitting and taking win when he clearly didn't have any right to claim free win. And he is permanently banned from NNNL: He allready has a warning here for  taking a free win he didn't deserve. He can't just take a draw game as a win. We agreed to play 1 bo1 TNL game. wich we did. Nobody woN..

He clearly doesn't seem to worried about his future on this si asked him why he took free win but he didn't answer and hasn't said anything here. Alot of players hate him. If he was concerned about his status on this site he would'nr take a free win for a draw.( http://nnnclan.freeforums.org/ban-notification-t591.html ). He allready has a warning here for  taking a free win he didn't deserve after just a few weeks registrated. He can't just take a draw game as a win. We agreed to play 1 bo1 TNL game. wich we did. Nobody won.

He clearly doesn't seem to worried about his future on this site as asked him why he took free win but he didn't answer and hasn't said anything here. Alot of players hate him. If he was concerned about his status on this site he would'nt take a free win for a draw without asking the mod. I don't care about wether or not Hargen gets banned here. I want the game voided and i would like this site to have some rule for draw. From what i could understand the rules said
You can get banned for submitting fake replays
If a game drops and it was first game or no further rounds/games to play. The game may be rematched or voided Unless someone has a clear advantage were the game is replayed with handicap or someone is givven the win.

Hargen crew submitted a draw as a win instead of trying to fill for free win, and he once again took a win were he didn't have any winning advantage. Since the game was OVER. A simmulair situation occured in xtc were a game dropped early without any advantages. There the mods decided to etheir have us replaying the game or else the game would be forgotten.

I think that in a future draw

The game has been finished. Unless it was a cup game or otherwise important games or if they were playing bo3/more rounds. The game can be etheir voided or replayed. If one of the player laggs out before the game is finished that means the game did not finish. But on the other hand incase a draw happends that mean the game did finish with no winner. Etheir the game should be voided or there should be a special option for rewarding draw games were the points that were up for grabs that game are subtracted from the players divided by 2 and both player got the same points(Punishing players with more points.)

Quote from: NAiL on March 22, 2010, 05:26 PM
Zoky has a fair point, just its a little hard to understand.

He's saying that DT knew what THCs attitude was like before the game, and so using that as an excuse to not rm the draw is not valid.

+1 zoky

Also I just saw DT telling Zoky about this in AG, he told him to post here Van

Well  THC should have at the very least made a complain thread first. He doesnj't seme to concerned with staying on this site since he submitted another free non win complaint despite having a warning allready.

Quote from: zoky on March 21, 2010, 08:16 PM
in my oppinion,if they have agreee to play TNL bo1,2,3,5...
game need be finished...
u cant saay after draw,i dont wana play any more

" •If a player lags out and is not seen online 10 minutes later, then the game is taken care of by the following rules:
■If it was the first game, then the game should not be reported, rather played at another time.
■If it was the second game and the loser of the first game was seemingly losing the second game too, it can be reported. At any other occasion the moderators will decide about the outcome of the game, after it is posted to the forum's League Complaints section.
"

First of all. TheHargen Crew should have made a complaint topic if i after 10 minutes didn't want to play the game. Second of all TheHargenCrew uploaded a fakereplay as a win when it was a draw, he should have after moderators told him, checked the " free win box " As the rules of tus clearly state that
''•Loading up a fake replay is obviously forbidden. Getting caught with this results in banning. "
And he has allready uploaded fake replays and fake wins here (Hence hei s warned ) ANd at NNNL site. I can't stand his attitude wich was the reason i didn't want to continue the game.  I think that the best sollution would be to void the game. And the tus rules needs to be expanded.

Quote from: WookA on March 21, 2010, 05:24 PM
maybe we should add something about draws to the rules, draws should be rematched or void, usually people can be mature enough to handle one with no problems 

im gonna leave this for now to see what other mods/hargen have to say since this is a new kind of complaint

Well from waht i could understand from the rules. Games should be replayed if someone laggout before finishing it. But if the game is compleated, but draw. The game has been finished and i should be free to work on my wfw map instead of bothering playing vs him again.

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The game ended up in a draw. There are no rules about what to do in a draw. But i didn't feel like playing another game vs him. A draw means noone won. But the game has been played. THere were no lagouts or so. Wich means that as far as i could understand from reading the rules. We don't have to play another game (Since we agreed on bo1 before the game).

He reported a draw because i didn't want to play another game. But i didn't find anything about this in the rules and since it was a draw it should be ok to simply drop it. Since i wanetd bo1 because i didn't want to play more games at that point.

Could someone delete the game please ? Thanks.

Quote from: DarkOne on March 21, 2010, 01:04 PM
I posted much improved mobility because mobility was horrible in the first version and you could walk around reasonably well in the current version. I never said I liked, though and I don't recall reviewing maps on TUS. Please do link me if I didn't remember correctly!

Well i wasn't trying to start a flame war. I simply find it so hard to download maps for all common scheme so if someone could upload all the good maps to all the free and classic map based schemes. Then it would be a lot less trouble when you get a new pc for exampel.

As for the review " This map is the second version and mobility has improved much. Moving around through the barrels on the right will take a while, but it's manageable. The homing missile and worm select box on the left bottom has been made weaker, because it was too powerful in the earlier version. The main battle will take place in the centre of the map. The graphics are a missed opportunity. The ropes pasted in the centre make the map less like a worms landscape. The random stack of barrels on the right are also contributing to this.
Since it's the first map he ever made, it's a good first try."

http://tourney.forumpro.fr/wfw-cup-f22/scheme-rules-and-maps-t351.htm

Quote from: Ray on March 20, 2010, 08:59 PM

Quote from: doubletime on March 20, 2010, 07:43 PM

Quote from: TenoriTaiga on March 20, 2010, 07:38 PM

Quotehttp://wmdb.org/6914

XDDDDD

Darkone liked it.

DarkOne lied.

Doubletime, have you ever heard about the TUS Map Database concept? Just asking...

@TT:

Ye thats why i made this. To help with ctf and wfw maps. As for my own map D1 you said that you liked it. But if not then remove my my map then.

Allso D1 said in a comment on the map " Much improved mobility here in comparison to the previous map! " ANd gave it a decent review on the tut forums. This and the fact that i have had random people saying " hey doubletime. Liked your'e wfw map " Made me think it was good enough for a leauge map pack. Allso FFie said some good things about it to. But whatever if you don't like it remove it. I did look in the " tus map data base " thingy but i couldn't see any actual map packs wich is why i decided to have a list of good wfw and ctf maps.

Imho same thing should be done for all map based schemes but i am only good at ctf and wfw schemes!

Quote from: TenoriTaiga on March 20, 2010, 07:38 PM

Quotehttp://wmdb.org/6914

XDDDDD

Darkone liked it.

Imho it is annoying when you get a new pc/reinstall worms or whatever, and you have to go trough the trouble of reinstalling EVERY singel good map you used to have as well as schemes. I think we need to have a map pack wich includes all the good maps for all the free leauge schemes + wxw ttrr roper.

Since everyone is annoyed that someone didn't do something wich noone did, despite the fact that anyone could have done it. I decided to be nice and submitt a short list of all good wfw and ctf maps.

WFW

http://wmdb.org/8659
http://wmdb.org/6914
http://wmdb.org/6582
http://wmdb.org/5962
http://wmdb.org/5554
http://wmdb.org/5191
http://wmdb.org/5115
http://wmdb.org/4714
http://wmdb.org/4532
http://wmdb.org/3663
http://wmdb.org/3567
http://wmdb.org/3566
http://wmdb.org/3368
http://wmdb.org/3720
http://wmdb.org/3526
http://wmdb.org/3372'

Theese maps are enough. In addition you need to edit the wfw schemes. It should have Drill, Worm Select(3 of them), Freeze. Kami, 20 sec turn and etheir 3 worms manuell placement or 5 worms random placement.

CTF

http://wmdb.org/8138
http://wmdb.org/7201
http://wmdb.org/6772
http://wmdb.org/4877
http://wmdb.org/4200
http://wmdb.org/4197
http://wmdb.org/3313
http://wmdb.org/1396
http://wmdb.org/1781
http://wmdb.org/690

My kunning on the other free leauges is severely limited and therefore i will not pick out good maps. But as for the wfw and ctf map they are all top notch and well known.

I think it is pathetic to see so many people try to get wins like this. Unless he had a clear advantage he had no right to claim win. And even if he did he should have made a complaint topic first.