I messed all quotes and texts, just edited it now. This is my last post here regarding this subject. You can keep posting about the keyboards.

Quote from: Sensei on December 02, 2024, 10:54 AM

Quote from: Impossible on November 26, 2024, 10:05 PMI remember the drama with kaleu when it turned out that he had an elaborate cheat that allowed him to shoot rope without waiting for the releassse of the previous click.

Quote from: Kaleu on December 02, 2024, 01:25 AM1. It was never a cheat and never will be. It still require the same amount of skill to play, changes nothing the game physx, it just increase taps speed.

As a spectator and someone that hasn't been involved in Kaleu's AHK story, just wondering.. What are you trying to say here?

Are you telling us that being able to use 2nd rope without letting go of the 1st one isn't a cheat!? Or you're telling us you didn't use such kind of a script?

Yes I used it. And I can name so many people that uses it today just by looking their roping, but for me it doesn't matter, it's not a big deal.

For me it isn't a cheat, it won't make someone go from Zalo to Mablak in terms of roping, it changes nothing but tap speed, the real skills are in the arrows control and game mechanics knowledge, not tap speed.

Quote from: Impossible on December 02, 2024, 07:43 PM

Quote from: Kaleu on December 02, 2024, 01:25 AMf@#! you.

i'm sorry kaleu i didn't want to hurt your feelings.

I remembered this in the context of the new keyboards. modern keyboards basically have its own implementation of ahk script you used.
someone above asked if this had been discussed before, and so the drama about the script naturally came up.

now that you've put the question that way though. It's been so many years, why don't you just admit that such script was a cheat? Ofcourse, you were a skilled players and could compete without the cheat just as well, no one doubts that. but faster tap speed is still a very serious advantage over the other players. isn't it naive to argue with that?

I've personally practiced a lot of bad things in this game, I've probably offended a lot of people, used aliases, used macros in first years. I regret doing all of this. I was a dumb child. but I am ready to admit this. why not do the same?

Your message demonstrates a skewed and simplistic view of the situation, and I disagree with it on several levels. First, labeling the script a "cheat" without understanding its context or purpose is disingenuous, to say the least. Many tools, including scripts like the one mentioned, were created to improve gameplay or meet specific needs within the limitations of the game, and this does not automatically equate to unethical behavior.

Secondly, it's unfair and condescending to suggest that someone should "admit" to something just because you've decided to project your own experiences and regrets onto the situation. The fact that you have used macros or practiced behavior that you consider bad does not give you the moral authority to judge others. Each person has their own path and reasons, and not everything is comparable.

Thirdly, the insinuation that the script in question represented "a very serious advantage" disregards important nuances, such as the player's general skill level or the consensus of the community at the time. Before labeling something as "naive" or "cheating", you need to take a closer look at the historical factors involved. I have already adressed my opinion towards that here.


In other words: I was too young to understand what cheating was. Literally no english skills to defend myself. In my conception I was just removing a hardware limitation as I had a very poor condition and a horrible computer even for an old game.
I will admit it's a cheat when the majority of Ukrainians admit Russia is right. Do you think it's fair to agree only because someone says so?

Quote from: TheKomodo on December 02, 2024, 12:09 PMDamn Kaleu goes from 0-FU faster than his autohotkeyscript can fire 2 ropes.

I have a serious question though, because I can't really even remember this...

If it's not a cheat, why was it banned? Are you telling us we're all allowed to use this because it sounds like a massive advantage to me for top tier ropers if they learn to control it right, especially in TTRR.

The problem isn't whether you consider something to be cheating or not.
What matters is whether there's a way to detect it and stop people from using it, because there's no way to rely on common sense for these things.
Banning something that can't be detected only encourages people to seek it out.

And I also think that people are confusing the fact that what was actually banned was the AUTOHOTKEY in general, because a macro that I was using in the match against Random00. Which pressed the T key automatically. Correlating both ocurrences.
About the script for the taps, it didn't really have a conclusion apart from banning autohotkey scripts, but again, there's no way to detect it, so it was allowed again!

Quote from: Impossible on November 26, 2024, 10:05 PM

Quote from: rUNaW4y on November 26, 2024, 08:40 AMImpo, didn't we discuss this topic quite a bit during 10 past years? What is new?

oh yea, we discussed a lot of things related to keyboards and roping.

I remember when ttrr scene was still hot, it was very popular to put paper under the spacebar to shorten the travel distance of keys.

I remember the drama with kaleu when it turned out that he had an elaborate cheat that allowed him to shoot rope without waiting for the releassse of the previous click.

however, analog keyboards are a new thing. wooting kickstarter was only 8 years ago, and general public got access to such keyboards only few years ago. it's a very fresh thing, it didn't exist 10 years ago.

yet it allows to do the same stuff we discussed, at the keyboard software level. like setting up an actuation point for each key, instead of physical paper. or setting up rapid trigger instead of kaleu's wk module cheats.

i also wonder if such thing, implemented on a keyboard level, can still be considered as cheating? and if everyone starts to use them?

1. It was never a cheat and never will be. It still require the same amount of skill to play, changes nothing the game physx, it just increase taps speed.
2. Not elaborated by me, was public available in TUS forums posted by Zippo I think, and it's not a wormkit module, it was an autohotkey script.
3. Stop flaming past with stuff like this. Using half-truths, and provoking negative thoughts about me with people who don't know the story.
4. f@#! you.

Nice alternative but I think this trash scheme is beyond salvation. I'd rather play some Comet Dodging.

A Tournament actually working in 2024? Gratz.

lool wtf is written in the great snooper pop up? should've switched to english before taking screenshot..
Maybe try using a VPN? This will confirm if it's really a network or local issue.

Welcome back RIP!
You are already using the best video settings, just disable Vertical Sync.


What's the pop-up message error when you try to join AG? Post screenshot please.
Wrong board btw, belongs to > Tech Support.

aee better late than never. 

Komo played this instead of deejay, can't report because he left the clan.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 23, 2024, 04:47 PMOh good one Kaleu, using my name as a scapegoat for your personal requests.

XDDD
Kradie could make a map with gay men + my name on it and I wouldn't care about, this is a concern for the unsure/insecure about their sexual orientation   

I personally like to see how infinite are the amount of beauty in women. Maybe Komo is looking for some men themed map ae?? 

Quote from: picklerick on October 16, 2024, 10:57 PM

Quote from: rUNaW4y on October 16, 2024, 07:24 PM

Quote from: rUNaW4y on October 16, 2024, 03:34 PMYou will either get flooded with soccer scores by Maximovich or you will instantly receive ZaR invitation from Kradie. I suggest throwing your PC from the window right now before getting infected.

Damn, what is wrong with you unfunny people? Btw, schemes are saved as .wsc files that are used to define scripts treated as COM objects and in some cases might be recognized as dangerous (still strange to my ears tho). You will not face any above-mentioned issues, just ignore your antivirus or add an exception in case the file is automatically removed.

ok thx btw do you know if hosting games is safe with WormNAT2? because its some proxy server doing for someone? i dont know and i am weak in this things. Maybe is safer way to host game online? i have to choose something way and dont know which is best

Yes, Worms Armageddon modules/dll's are usually safe to use if you download them from secure sources like worms2d.info or TUS WormKit modules forum board.

very nice, epic meeting 

I just bought this game for 3 USD equivalent in BRL. Never tried it before.

Bóris the cat approves these series !
It still likes shoes box