what about my come back?

lol

zippo means well

WOW AMAZING!!!

heh crazy, Dub likes this scheme now after he got beat by me

pls delete 14077, its the wrong replay.

Or preferably replace it with the replay from 14079, so we dont loose 1 point!

Thanks

chicken read the posts its good fun, and yes you can waste 10 turns andbring on sd, which takes less than a couple of minutes to do

+ Uber yeh lets tus more again soon Xd

Quote from: Uber on December 16, 2009, 11:21 PM
As for this scheme, ok then i clearly need 2 deal with and learn these "pro" tactics then. As u see here, alot of players agree with me in this being a scheme thats clearly debatable, as u can see of all posts here.

lol who agrees with you? Only Ray and Dub said that they dont really like the scheme, I havent seen a post agreeing with your "no darksiding rule".

More so than other schemes, hysteria  comes down to the very last worm in order determine who looses and who wins.

Most of the game is usually spent on the last worm.

You should know Uber, as a good T17 player, that its not over til its over.

Just as you wouldnt criticise a player of being "lame" for blocking and hiding his 1hp worm in a T17, why should you for a player who is blocking and hiding his 1hp worm in hysteria?

You should be able to see that this is not "being lame", nor is it "loosing with your flag down", this is fighting until the very end (sustainably) in order to secure a win.

If you'd rather not put up a fight for the sake of making the game "more fun to play or watch", then thats good for you, I admire your willingness to increase your chances of loosing simply to entertain your fellow wormer, hats off to you.

Watch this game Uber 14026, its an example of how simple and ENJOYABLE it is to bring on SD when you have an advantage. Watch the ending and you'll see how to avoid any darksiding problem.

And then tell me that the ending of that match wasnt fun and enjoyable, or how I "won with my flag down".

Anyway I hear you Uber, I cant really say any more to convince you to think otherwise, unfortunately.

Uber, when debating you need to learn to make factual points based on evidence, rather than emotionally charged scrawls of bias trash.

Ill go through some of the things you've said, again.

You said in responce to MI:

Quote from: Uber on December 16, 2009, 02:20 PM
U disappoint me with this "easy" way of thinking,

Eh? You disapoint me with your "easy" way of thinking, look at what you say:

Quote from: Uber on December 16, 2009, 02:20 PM
But dont hide down at the caverns like a shithead.

You see saying things like this based on the emotions of a certain game you have played, displays the characteristics of a very single minded individual.

Quote from: Uber on December 16, 2009, 02:20 PM
What a parody of a game it would be?? U wanna reward players that do so, fine, be my guest.

Eh? Come again?

The scheme does not reward you for doing so, the PLAYER may or may not reward you for doing so.

As you said yourself:

Quote from: Uber on December 16, 2009, 02:20 PM
If I hadnt gone after him, as I did, and insted played just as lame, Hide both my worms in a little hole in the mid of the map f.ex. What a parody of a game it would be??

If you'd hid in a hole, then he would have taken the high ground and then YOU would be in the worser position. I think you need to be reminded that hiding is not "being lame". You had no complaints up until he was down to his last worm with under 30 health, OF COURSE HE ISNT GOING TO HIDE ON THE TOP OF THE MAP WERE HE CAN BE SHOT AND KILLED AND LOOSE THE GAME!

This isnt a funner, this is a league game of which BOTH of you are TRYING TO WIN.

I could use your pathetic "being lame" argument in other schemes, but I have the higher intellect to know not to. I could say "HEY YOUR LAME"  if you were constantly blocking my last worm in a T17. Sure I could have a bannana bomb to kill your last worm, but then again I might not. What would be (as you say) "more fun to play/watch"? You blocking me, or risking the fact that I might not have a bannana bomb all in the name of making the game "more fun to play or watch".  

Of course it would be "more fun to play/watch" if you didnt block me and risked me not having a bannana bomb, but you wouldnt do that would you, no, why? BECAUSE YOU WANT TO WIN.

So by the same token how can you criticise him for hiding where he cannot be hit in hysteria, when its a LEAGUE  game that both of you WANT TO WIN.

WINNING A GAME RELYS ON MORE THAN JUST ATTACKING, YOU KNOW THAT.

Your argument is this "stop darksiding me". This is the same as the argument for limitied girders in T17, "stop blocking me", i.e. it isnt an argument at all, its an irellevant, inappropriate STATEMENT that is yelled by SIMPLE MINDED people who instead of thinking of other strategies in order to win the game, would rather shout "LAME LAMERRRR U SOO LAME THIS SCHEME SUCKS". < Your own words from this game.

Your other argument is this, "game is more fun to play/watch when you try to attack more".

This just plain STUPID. Its not "more fun" if I am loosing, for me to FURTHER INCREASE MY CHANCES OF LOOSING. Its more fun for me to MAXIMISE MY CHANCES OF WINNING. Why can you not see that?

All hysteria players know that the game REALLY starts when its down to the last worms. This is where the hiding, following, predicting and trapping begins, this is where the "hysteria" begins.

The reason ive been more forceful in this post is because I find it kinda LAME, that you should tell people to "respect" others opinions, and then call Monkeys post stupid when he is just adding his say, be it useful to you or not.

I could go through so many more of the points you have made and contradcit you on every one of them. Your argument isnt  just pathetic, its non existant.

This isnt a matter of opinion, this is a matter of me being right, and you being completely and utterly wrong.

:/

With regards to hysteria being removed from the classic scheme list we were talking to dub.

Quote from: Uber on December 16, 2009, 02:35 AM
U guys got me all wrong, when u keep on saying why we play it, and if we should remove it or not. I NEVER told i wanted 2 remove the scheme. And tell me Nail, do it mean u dont want 2 win the game in bng just cause u dont darkside? nah, cause the RULES tell u not 2.

The thing is, I repeat, hysteria is NOT bng.

The reason darksiding is not allowed in bng is because its unfair, your opponant cannot hit you.

In hysteria you can MOVE anywhere, every turn, so darksiding isnt a problem.

Sure its a problem if you dont do anything about it (like in the case of this game), but thats YOUR problem, not the scheme's.

If your opponant moves to an unreachable spot, there are many things you can do to counteract this (surely I dont need to tell you what these things are).

And if worst comes to worse, waste 10 goes. Then SD comes and its problem solved.

Adding a "no darksiding" rule to hysteria is absurd, primarly for the reason that its NOT NEEDED, and is also very circumstantial. I mean, is it ok for me to darkside at the beginning of the game? If my worms start in a darksided position must I move them so that they can be shot? etc...

There is no need for any darksiding rule to be added to hysteria, if anything it RUINS the scheme.

Ill say something again just incase you missed it:  if worst comes to worse, waste 10 goes. Then SD comes and its problem solved.

For that reason alone, your theory of making a no darksiding rule falls flat, because ITS NOT NEEDED!

Quote from: Dub-c on December 15, 2009, 11:30 PM
Anyone know the meaning of "Classic"?

Anyone know the meaning of "Evolution"?

Word beer ^, thats a good point.

Quote from: Uber on December 15, 2009, 05:36 PM
So Camper, u expect me 2 wait for him for like 10 minutes that game? when each turn is 1 sec.. man if thats not boring, then nothing is. Im not saying u dont need skills for playing hyst. all the bng, weapon choosing etc obviously require skills. But im saying that lame darksiding style at the END of games really mess up the charm of that scheme, at least for me.. If u disagree then its ok.. Im just stating my opinion.

Hysteria isnt BnG, its Hysteria.

When it comes down to the last worm in Hysteria, darksiding will happen alot, its a TACTIC. Lets remember that you are trying to WIN the game... Its how you counteract the darksiding that matters, i.e. digging a little, stalking the worm with teleports until he messes up etc...

As Monkey said, all you'd needed to have done to bring on SD would be wasting less than ten turns.

What would you rather he did Uber? Teleport somewhere where he can be hit by you and loose the game? Is that what you'd want?

Well evidently it would be, seeing as you want to WIN the game just as much as he does.

I'll tell you whats really lame, its people yelling lame when they loose a game, and people saying that certain schemes shouldnt be played for the classic league (dubc) when they havent been around for the last 3 years to see what people are playing these days.

hb godito!

of course I didnt forget your birthday!

My favourite black man after Will Smith, Bobby Mcferrin, genius!

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