awesome Thanks Huskie!

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"Remember you gotta be in it, to win it!" ^/Komo/

Zhorg's obviously learning jamaican english.

The patch first, then the update.
http://wormsarmageddon.team17.com/main.html?page=supp&area=welc

I get you, ropa. The essence of your words is that bng went shit. The rest is either bullshitting, blindly guessing around, or telling unimportant facts.

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Hi Abnax!
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Quote from: Komito on December 12, 2012, 08:12 AM
I was told by several members of b2b who I trust, that it was never about me quitting or not quitting, it was mainly because people just didn't like who I was anymore, and "most of b2b agree b2b would be better off without you"

I don't know what do you mean by that you were told by members of b2b who you trust. It wasn't us, who built up a whole argument on you technically quitting or not. We based our decision on your attitude, that never was a secret.

Quote from: Komito on December 12, 2012, 08:12 AM
"what our community is all about" lol, it's quit funny because, when I was leader, most of wnet thought we were about BnG, and you guys at the end insisted you are nothing more than a bunch of friends who enjoy hanging out together, who occasionally play BnG, that pissed me off more than anything, why even be in a scheme focused and dedicated community if that's the case, I gave you all the chance to leave

3 of the four members (wormf00d, GreeN, Ramone) who were there at the very first days of b2b claim that all this community ever meant to be was a small group that enjoys each others company, and playing BnG.
Maybe it was your desire to make it something like a political party, but honestly, none of us wants that. We don't give a shit about fashion either. I installed mIRC in 2010. What we care about is each other and BnG. FYI, we do play BnG, we do talk about BnG, we ever did. We were discussing NRBnG, 1RBnG, notching, all that stuff on IRC (and forums too), not like we had to do that, but because some of us personally care, not because we are b2b, the saviours of BnG.

Our room is open to everyone by the way (KRD already explained why did ropa get kicked).

If anyone still thinks that b2b owes anything to the community, I can only quote Komo here:

Quote from: Komito on December 11, 2012, 11:32 AM
it always takes 2 to tango.

No, tourneys and a2b are not over because we "kicked" Komo. There just aren't enough enthusiasts for a continously running BnG league, but not even for weekly tournaments. Even TEL was down due to inactivity, despite elite being a more popular scheme. We might just start a2b again (or something similar) at a point, if we have motivation to do so.

I can't talk in every b2b members' name right now, but I do take part of the responsibility for not letting Komo back and causing tihs crappy situation so.
I do admire Komo's work, I agree with that he did the most for BnG.

However, I don't see your point of bashing us like this, because it isn't changing anything, I think it's too late from both side.

You got me wrong, Komo, I didn't say we were bashed by you, we were bashed by other people.
You got me wrong at quitting too. I'm talking about you quitting on TUS.

ropa, we didn't kick Komo, he left, we just didn't want to let him back just like that. Why the hell do you think we had no reasons? Do you think we just did it for fun, or what?

Seriously, what the hell do you want? Komo, you were an asshole, YOU DID LEFT B2B, that's a fact because we didn't kick you and somehow you are still not in. You may have not made all members angry at you, but certainly did those who gave a shit about it. Your apologies were all like "but I was drunk', " but I was angry", but never just a pure "I was wrong".

ropa: I just wrote a post about that I don't think we are on a higher moral ground, but we had to make a f@#!ing choice! Also, it was Johnny alone who kicked you from #b2b. Now you are talking the same as people did about us mostly because of Komo's actions and attitude, blaming all b2b because of a member's individual action.

I'd like everyone to understand one thing: we had to make a choice. All b2b members was being bashed, no matter who was standing by Komo and who wasn't, people would imagine an equality between Komo and b2b, and many people clearly didn't like his attitude.
Komo, you did quit more than one time and we let you back without question. But the last time you'vre crossed a line, we had to choose. Letting you back despite of the things you've said about us and the actions you were about to make (ie.: taking leadership, removing players, etc..) or not letting you back, wait for things/you to calm down and then maybe talk to you.
(sounds like a goddamn breakup)
We chose the 2nd option, but looks like it isn't really working out. Fact is, the harder you act, the stronger the rejection grows. Dancing tango takes two, but looks like we both suck at it.

I honestly don't know how to settle this anymore, but I do miss the times when being b2b was an honor.

ps.: ropa, I'm actually the one (of a few) who asked Komo to restart a2b again and again, I'm all into tourneys and "spreading the spirit of BnG", but I still think that we do not owe this to the community or anyone, it's our own choice if we (can) do it or not.

a2b died when Komo was still active and in b2b, almost no one played it after a while. Same with the tourneys. We tried to host a few times, but seemed like people don't really care anymore, so we lost motivation.
You should realize that all these b2b bashings are manipulated by Komo. He is still angry at us, so grabs every opportunity to blame us for something, making every case look 10 times bigger than they really are.

I apologize for saying this, but this thread is full of ignorance. Seems like most of you guys have no idea what happened between Komo and the rest of b2b.
Some facts you should know:
Komo AND wormf00d made the commmunity.
None of them was ever considered to be a leader (not by us at least), and we are just fine like that, we ever were.
Komo's leaving was his own decision. He wanted to make b2b something that none of us wanted, not his co-founder either.
BnG was never being "under our watch", we have our own style of BnG, we never wanted to force anything to the leagues or the community.

Someone answer me: why is b2b such a big case? There are plenty of communities doing NOTHING and no one's bashing them for that. What on earth should we do? We are just a bunch of friends who love BnG, it's all written in our forums by Komo himself.

Ok I think finally we can change the topic to BOM and NFBX. Those elitist bastards do nothing to make their loved scheme popular!!!

f@#!ing phone! I've typed a whole goddamn essay with my 1-# keys and now it wouldn't save it.
Anyway, the essence of it was that it's not that b2b don't give a shit about people who want to join, but we are inactive, you can find us on irc /some members on WN too/.
Just for the record: it took me months to get in b2b.

Quote from: Komito on December 07, 2012, 08:21 PM
Fair enough then, you have all became selfish & arrogant.

There 2 guys who asked to join b2b in the forums. 1st was just trying to insult us. 2nd one claimed things about himself that appear to be not true.
Also, it's written and known that we don't accept joining requests like that, honestly, I don't understand why people keep trying like that.
And just to be clear: b2b don't *need* new members.

I think it's funny