Those are not two different ideas, they are basically about the same, with slight changes. We could discuss them in one topic and come to a final solution, which would be accepted by MonkeyIsland, as a result, completed.
Well... You are the one trying to make drama of this. I told them they can wait, then I got the message they started already, this is why I figured you demanded to start. Chill man...
I mean come on! This was reported at 20:00 and I reported the Roper at 20:15, but finished by 20:10. Would have been 10 minutes to wait for a player who can actually play RR. No offence Dark, you know that too.
Nor did I like the scheme until I realized the potential of it. I wouldn't say that it's as enjoyable or challenging as other schemes, and people with less roping skills have somewhat better chance to beat a better skilled player, but still Maciej's "idea" is gratuitous, a simple ebullition of anger.