Final

Sbaffo (1) vs dibz (2)

Deadline: Wednesday 2016-01-20 (14 days)

vesu, read this rule:

"Darksiding is hiding your worm in a position where it's impossible for your opponent(s) to hit you with a grenade and at the same time impossible for you to hit your opponent(s) with a grenade."

Even if u couldn't attack Sbaffo with a nade from any hide, Sbaffo was still able to hit u with a nade.

Quote from: ZexorZ on January 04, 2016, 08:56 PM
Everything under rule. no cow.

Quote from: Sbaffo on January 04, 2016, 05:26 PM
Today it's 2016-01-04, Dario hasn't replied yet, so i guess you have to move dibz on finals.

Yea, I PM'd DarkOne about this today. I think we have a good candidate for FoS' "best avoider" title

The schemes/replays should be the other way around

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-202209/

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-202210/

Quote from: aik on January 01, 2016, 10:01 AM
Hi!

Any way to restore User Groups? I updated the snooper today and they are all gone :/

Go to settings and click "Import settings" under General tab.

Then find this file: C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\ToOMiToO\Great_Snooper.exe_Url_dbanzgzjs4hx2svpoumut2oxupchuvao\1.4.9.0\user.config

Quote from: Mega`Adnan on December 29, 2015, 02:37 PM

Quote from: Senator on December 29, 2015, 01:37 PM
How many times did u look for clanner with spleen? I think u played clanner only when other clans asked u in PM and it was never by your initiative

Lul, spleen is not in BFW anymore.

That's why I used imperfect

Quote from: Mega`Adnan on December 29, 2015, 12:29 PM
I wish I could play some clanners, but pizza and I are active in BFW....
With different timezones......

How many times did u look for clanner with spleen? I think u played clanner only when other clans asked u in PM and it was never by your initiative

Finally someone applying for other than dt or TdC. gl! If not l3x, then dP coz Kins needs a cellmate.

Quote from: Komito on December 20, 2015, 03:59 PM
Senator, many of those players can play both schemes, they just pick the ones they enjoy most and are better at, doesn't mean they aren't good enough to win them.

Yep, Lukz is a great allrounder but he still lost rope schemes 0-2 to dibz in that final. Therefore Lukz only proved he was better in defaults. You say he deserved the win because he collected more points during the season. I say u shouldn't put that much weight on the seasonal rating because people can game the system to get higher rating..

Bo7 would be better in terms of finding the best allrounder. Even with Bo7 u could win by 4 default schemes but u should show more diverse skills nonetheless.

Actually, the system could be conditional Bo5/Bo7
- If u lead 3-0 or 3-1, the series is over (Bo5)
- If u lead 3-2 and u have wins in both rope & default, the series is over (Bo5)
- If u lead 3-2 and u have wins only in rope or default, the series becomes Bo7

Most PO series would remain as Bo5. Bo7 would come into play only when one side dominates in rope schemes and the other side in default schemes.

Quote from: Komito on December 20, 2015, 02:10 PM
I don't see what the big fuss is about, the best allround players can do Rope & Default equally well, either learn it or shutup?

Maybe read again then? The point is that u don't need to be better allrounder to win 3 games, u only need to be better either at roping or in default schemes. And I started this thread after I had benefited from this system myself. For me both rope and default schemes are fine, though.

Some recent examples where the Bo5 system played a role:

#47
DaRiOxD vs VoK 3-2 (TTRR+WxW+Roper vs Elite+Team17)
Senator vs Almog 3-2 (TTRR+WxW+Roper vs Elite+Hysteria)
dibz could have gone with TTRR+Roper+WxW against Chelsea but he wanted to beat Chelsea in at least one default scheme so he picked Elite as 5th
#43
Lukz vs dibz 3-2 (Elite+Hysteria+Team17 vs TTRR+Roper)
#42
Sbaffo vs GreatProfe 3-2 (TTRR+WxW+Roper vs Elite+Team17)
#41
dibz vs Hussar 3-2 (TTRR+WxW+Roper vs Elite+Hysteria)

This rule is a bit flawed anyway (it gives the 2nd picker a chance to win by 3 rope/default schemes if the 1st picker doesn't go with Shopper as 5th).

I still don't like the current system It's not perfect if u can get through by either rope or default skills alone.

Quote from: KinslayeR on December 18, 2015, 06:38 PM
If u are roper u win 2 picks, if u are normal guy u will propably win 2 of ur picks too, then it is 2:2 and the guy who leading in table pick fifth,  easy and fair.

Try being allrounder, play every scheme, not just hysteria/elite or ttrr/roper 

Easy, sure.

I just won a PO series 3:2 by picking TTRR, WxW and Roper. I only needed to show my roping skills to get to the next round. That's the point of this thread. The idea of allround league disappears when the playoffs start. A higher season ranking is not necessarily deserved either (activeness, avoiding, noob bashing etc play a role in rankings).

Currently Classic league playoff series are Bo5, which means u can win by simply being better roper/defaulter (if u get to pick first). Isn't this against the idea of finding the best allrounder? Bo5 also means roper vs defaulter series are very predictable.

How about keeping it still Bo5 but adding this rule: you can pick only two of TTRR/WxW/Roper AND only two of Elite/Hysteria/BnG/Team17 ?

Examples:

1. TTRR
2. Elite
3. WxW
4. BnG
5. Shopper/Hysteria/Team17 (Roper can't be picked)

1. Elite
2. TTRR
3. BnG
4. WxW
5. Shopper/Roper (Hysteria and Team17 can't be picked)

A roper could pick 2 rope schemes + Shopper/default. A defaulter could pick 2 default schemes + Shopper. You could no longer win by picking TTRR+WxW+Roper or 3 of Elite/Hysteria/BnG/Team17.

I think this is a better version of the earlier abandoned rule (first four picks must include 2 rope schemes and 2 default schemes). Another option would be Bo7 series but it might take too long..

Semifinals

Sbaffo (1) vs Senator (4)
dibz (2) vs DaRiOxD (3)

Deadline: Sunday 2016-01-03 (16 days)

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/classic-playoffs/?s=47

gj Sbaffo