Quote from: ropa on December 06, 2012, 01:50 PM

Quote from: TheWalrus on December 06, 2012, 02:42 AM

Quote from: ShyGuy on December 06, 2012, 02:06 AM
We should open up a new thread for this lawl

I just wrote a pagelong message to Mablak continuing our debate on economy and the war.  I will forward it to you, maybe you can get some learning in you yet. 

EDIT: Damn, outgoing messages aren't stored for some reason.  We need an American Exceptionalism forum haha.

Well, that's to bad, I posted in the thread hoping you would reply in it.

replied, ropito.  even though we are far off topic here and everywhere else. 

Quote from: HHC on December 06, 2012, 02:29 PM
US politics are in poor shape right now. Making compromises seems to be a thing of the past, everyone seems preoccupied only with pushing through their own (party's) view.

I don't have a political party, i think the current regime in america needs to be overthrown.  If anything, im Jeffersonian.  Shyguy likes to peg me as a libertarian though, so i make him a communist

I don't advocate for war, i believe in an isolationist foreign policy.  America needs to stop f@#!ing around with other countries, stop giving them money, and stop invading their countries.  Let the other squabbling countries destroy each other.  It's a waste of my money for my government to march off to war ever time it has its menstrual cycle.  I have a hard enough time with shyguy trying to pick my pockets with his liberal stealerism gwahaha

Quote from: ropa on December 01, 2012, 10:17 AM

Quote from: TheWalrus on December 01, 2012, 06:29 AM
Big business is hurt by conflict, not helped. 

http://www.businesspundit.com/the-25-most-vicious-iraq-war-profiteers/

We have different meanings for big business then.

Germany for instance, they're making a big fortune of this economical conflict.

I was speaking on the macro, of course any event of any significance of any kind, private firms profit from.  For instance.....hurricane happens.  Big business is helped!  A billion or two in cleanup, construction, someone has to rebuild!  Profiteers step in and profit from disaster.  Pretty cut and dry right?  Nope.  The big business that matters, the investment firms, insurance brokerage firms, and banks are hit hard.  Disaster means exponentially more in lost $$$ than the mere cleanup costs. 

Getting back to the Iraq war, the US government needs to borrow money.  Lots of it.  The war must be fought.  So the fed buys bonds to flood the economy with cash flow so the government can borrow boatloads of money without severely damaging the economy.  Side effect of the federal reserve buying up all these bonds in the rapid rise in inflation.  Nationalized companies lose tons of money overnight, most severely damaged are the major lenders, the Banks.  Overnight, their outstanding loans plummet in value.  Insurance firms, locked into fixed rates, find the premiums their clients pay are no longer substantial enough with the dollar being adjusted for inflation and losing value.  So, when we talk about Halliburton, other companies profiting off the war in Iraq, they are one of the very few.  If the USA won the war, and is cashing in, its the equivalent of hitting the lottery and being hit by a semi on the way to cash in the winning ticket.  The money being made is minutiae compared to the billions and billions lost back at home.

Quote from: ShyGuy on December 06, 2012, 03:22 AM
It's funny how you say when I get educated I will learn the way, yet I used to be libertarian then I took basic economics classes in high school and changed to socialist lol

inb4 my teacher was a liberal radical; my teacher was a hardcore libertarian like you

Thats because your new teachers at kent state are liberal radicals.   

I was wondering when you guys would find the picture of my tattoo 

Quote from: OrangE on December 06, 2012, 07:31 AM
nah. as former member of NBR (and now asking back in) I vote NO! he trolls me and makes me cry TEARS OF FURY every day

orange, come back to poppa!  ano is lonely being the only non-norte americano with angus being inactive.  ive missed my italianos 

Quote from: l7cx1Cl on December 06, 2012, 04:38 AM
I didn't read the rules.  Cuz I am cool like that.   

Did I get in??   

lol you f@#!in tard im trying to get you into fos but it doesnt help that your trying to join every damn community on tus all in one day lol.  you can only be in 2 communities, jackass 

Quote from: ShyGuy on December 06, 2012, 02:06 AM
We should open up a new thread for this lawl

I just wrote a pagelong message to Mablak continuing our debate on economy and the war.  I will forward it to you, maybe you can get some learning in you yet. 

EDIT: Damn, outgoing messages aren't stored for some reason.  We need an American Exceptionalism forum haha.

Quote from: ShyGuy on December 06, 2012, 12:58 AM
what makes you think I don't understand her writings?  Capitalism has been the source of pretty much all suffering on earth, haha... And I'm not a communist, don't use buzzwords, you greedy corporate sleazeball !

Sleazeball?  You may not be a communist, but you are a socialist.  Socialism is the preferred delivery method of mediocrity and sloth from leaders to citizens.  A veritable golden ticket to do absolutely nothing at all and be paid for it.  Greed is the heart of socialism, the incredible sense of entitlement that you and your fellow peons have for my hard earned money.  You can pry the scraps from my table from my cold dead fingers 

Quote from: ShyGuy on December 05, 2012, 08:19 PM
yuck, you would say that about Ayn Rand, you libertarian scum!

haha i was browsing the forums and I saw this thread with you as the most recent poster and I knew you'd be commenting on this.  Once you graduate college or get a real job you'll understand Ayn Rand's writings and conservative fiscal policy.  One day you will come back and praise me for showing you the way to capitalism.  Remember, Rand came from a communist background like yourself, shy. 

Quote from: lalo on December 05, 2012, 03:59 AM
That book looks really interesting HHC, I'd like to have it in my hands for a couple of days. Unfortunately, that kind of literature is really diffcult to find in Chile plus too expensive, one of the things that I miss about UK  , but I bought lots of books during my stay there and most of them about history

Look to Joseph Goebbels if you want the reals brains behind the rise of the Nazi party, without Goebbels, there would be no Heydrich.  I ordered the book today, HHC.  I love WW2 history, i've read at least 4 or 5 books, but mostly on the conflict rather than the hierarchy of the German military leadership.  The more I read about Germany in WW2, the more I realize what a buffoon Himmler was, and what a genius Rommel was.  I guess it really wouldn't have mattered since either way they still had a lunatic megalomaniac as the supreme leader of the armed forces.

Quote from: l7cx1Cl on December 04, 2012, 03:45 PM
Wally > Who is skaters?

You don't remember skaters?  Hes from the old armageddon clan, stops in here from time to time.  American.

Quote from: van on December 05, 2012, 02:57 AM

Quote from: TheWalrus on December 04, 2012, 10:11 PM
I think van is comparing it to crysis 1 because it takes place in the jungle like the first crysis did.  The environments are basically the same.  I've been looking forward to this game, but im more looking forward to crysis 3 and the debut of cryengine3 as well.  Crytek is a great game developer, I cant wait to pick this up, ive heard nothing but good things. 

The one game im really waiting for is Bioshock Infinite though.....

I'm super hyped for crysis 3, Crysis 1 must be my favourite fps from the past decade, and I still sometimes play crysis 2 on multiplayer (although it's full of die-hards and assholes and there's not much place for casual players... just like... in worms lol) Not a big fan of the linear campaign that was presented in cry2 but the multiplayer used to be really enjoyable. I really wish cry3 took place in an open world and didn't feel as limited as the 2nd one (here's where far cry 3 comes in and knocks my boots off), but I'll probably get it purely for the multiplayer experience.

Bioshock looks awesome as well, I'm an avid fan of the series.

BTW van when did crytek stop developing the far cry series? I went to the crytek website to get more information on far cry 3 and realized ubisoft is developing it now.  At least now I know why Far Cry 2 sucked when compared to Far Cry and Far Cry Instincts Predator.

I see why chelsea avoids, he ended up losing that game...

Quote from: Statik on December 05, 2012, 12:56 AM

Quote from: Impossible on December 04, 2012, 09:21 PM
hahah that mission with flamethrower was brutal yeah

and with the best soundtrack in the game probably xD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpzGu9Yp6Y

Quote from: van on December 04, 2012, 09:17 PM
you can finish almost every mission without even being seen

really? I kill 3-4 enemies in "stealth" mode, but have to finish others with AK or RPG (powa ).

And it's boring to kill animals to get better stuff, it would be better to be able to buy everything. Now I have to kill 10 dogs to get more pockets for nades

I hear if you bag 50 feral cats you get a gold AK-47

I think van is comparing it to crysis 1 because it takes place in the jungle like the first crysis did.  The environments are basically the same.  I've been looking forward to this game, but im more looking forward to crysis 3 and the debut of cryengine3 as well.  Crytek is a great game developer, I cant wait to pick this up, ive heard nothing but good things. 

The one game im really waiting for is Bioshock Infinite though.....

looking good orange!  is the first picture your piano playing outfit?