Nobody "wins" here. We both ( + others) had some good points here, and its been like 5 pages without any yelling or namecalling, If anyone, TUS is the winner!

"You wouldn't see in the Football World Cup for Brazil to turn round and say "Nah, sorry we are busy, can't play, we'll just wait until your best players are injured or something" lol."

True, but u wouldnt see them losing less points for a loss if their "weaker players" played instead! They are ranked as the best team in the world by many, but they cant play with a weaker team and then get easier off the hook.. THey are top of the FIFA ranking (at least was, i think its Spain atm), and EVERYTIME they play, no matter own team no matter opponent they still win/lose the same amount points at the FIFA ranking. That statement proves my point more than urs tbh Komo.  

And the point u just said just says that avoiding is common among some clans. I can partly agree 2 that, but that really is more a attitude problem by single persons than the points themselves. They are not scared 2 lose so much points they are scared of the fact of losing.

Well, been fun! Ill get something 2 eat !  

Ye ofcourse komo, i get the math in this long time ago! Just mentioned that it still would be a sick thing 2 do. lets say camper and me was on 1 k but met a clan with a v good ttrr rating 2. so we could actually have a total of like 1700 in ttrr rank. play a clan with like 800 in rr, but 2 of the players in the clan had won alot rr and rest lost. Then our clan with 1700 ttrr rank could actually win like 50 points if me n camp played, vs a clan with 800 in ttrr rank. Its just not right imo..

TEAMS ARE TEAMS! SINGLES ARE SINGLES! PERIOD!

And ye, for clans with few members this would mean hell..

Like RoK said Komo, and i said it before; I get ur point.. !

Remember my rr example? So dulek/guaton plays 70 games win em all. Then me and camp plays 50 games and lose em all.
THe clans stats in rr would be 70-50 but our rating would still OWN With like 60/40 in win loss and still we would have a rating that doesnt reflect the clan at all.. Cause the rating isnt really the clans, its the individuals.. As in every other scheme. U wanna put the persons in the clan in the front line, while i wanna keep putting the clan itself in the front.

Anyways lets take a break from all this shit for a while, im getting dissy from all this!

imo i given u more than enough evidence for it, both in maths and examples. anyways om glad we can speak maturly about the matter! +1

less points for noobashing? Its the opposite man! Imagine 2 clans; CLAN A pro clan, CLAN B noob clan. 10 players each, totalt of 20. As long as most players from both clans play u have countless of variables that will make the points go muuuch slower down than before. If the 10 players from the proclan all play and same with the noobclan it will take vvlong before the points drops down 2 "current" standards, eventho u wouuld play 50 games in every scheme.

In example ur clan just played 5-6 games in a row vd FD and won like 70 points.  Cause the rating is what it should be atm.
Anways, im out now. Kinda tired of this discussion!

Peace my brothas from another mothas! xD

lmao Komo. Yes of course the difference from 2vs2 singles is 1 little thing. The clan gets the points added 2 its rating, pretty obvious.

Man i played teamsports all my life, i never will support this. Imo a teamgame is a teamgame where THE NAME OF THE TEAM is what matters. Like when PS play CFC it doesnt matter who plays, cause the teams themselves are the main thing.
We have soo many individual leagues here, why make this one teamleague even more individual aswell??

ALso the "keep the current rating" is wrong and will only benefit the clans with most points.. Can u imagine CF with overall close to 6k gtting 40 points for each win vs clans as JEDI? For a long time it will be at least 30 + in all schemes vs all clans. their Overall will be 2 high in the end..

Nah, im with darkone. Ur clan has an extreme bng player  (urself). They played alot of bng clanners, won them, got the rating. Now its up 2 the rest 2 prove themselves 2 defend it when ur not around, for their TEAM! THe honour!


In simple words: when playing singles, TEL bla bla u represent urself. When playing clanners u represent ur team. And the points of ur team.

Lets say dulek/guaton rr as gods, make ps get a sick ttrr rating (2200) and then those 2 newer rr again. Then me and camper plays the rest of the rr ever. We lose and lose. soon clans beaten us enough so when me and camp plays we lose 10 points or less. And still we have like 1800 in rr rating. THATS NOT REFLECTING THE CLANS RR SKILL, its dulek/guaton ONLY, not the 8 others.. The clans rating in every scheme is +- the average of each player, should be atlest.  I earn my clan points in hyst, elite and t 17. Some earn most points in rope schemes. Still its the total of all our skill that brings in points and lose points.

u know u just wrote down what i meant,do you? :p thats exactly how 2vs2 singles work, altho here the clan also gets the score added 2 it rating!

The points u earn from winning games is calculated from the SINGLE players, not the overall at all, so its just what i said!

PLAYER A AND B earns 2000 points in ttrr. THen comes C and D and plays ttrr vs a clan with 0 matches so far. 40 poitns for both. Cause its the individual score. So its 2vs2 singles only in a different setting ,cause every player starts with 1000 points + the clan gets the scores added 2 their overall in the scheme..

U take the average points of the 2 players and combine them, just like in 2vs2 singles. BOTH players lose the same/win the same. If not how u gonna find 1 (ONE)  set off points 2 win/lose for the clan.. ?

p.s Btw if we do this u know all clans gotta reset their ratings and overall in every scheme.. Some which taken "years" 2 build up. Sorry mac, still dont have me on this one! g`nite!

But Komo, what u basically say is that u want a clanner system based by individuals. A "singles" system inside the clanner system. Really the same as a 2vs2 tus single, just that it keep its own score, and that we all start with 1k in rating in each scheme. It goes beyond my belief of what a team game should be like!

Imagine the noob-bashing in the start of this then. every clan are even. every player 2. First 2 play a "noob clan" 10 matches, woho!

I get ur point, and i see what ur thinking. i Just dont share ur opinion m8!

Of course it gets individual when u use the players individual rating (which they earned in tus classic singles) and use that as a factor for points in clanners..

Imo this kills the whole teamfactor in this. Just like maciej said, it gets like a 2vs2 singles game, just from the same clan. I dont like this idea.

Also u have ALOT of strong players who never plays singles and this will just be unfair for those good players who actually are active in singles league. Lets not give players the same troubles for earning little points in singles, into the clanners also. This will just benefit clans with inactive players in singles and clans with active good players in singles will lose from it ( considered they win and increase their rating all the time).

A team isnt stronger than its WEAKEST LINK! Its a well known fact. As for cfc which mostly been a 1-man team in bng. Im not saying that its illegal 2 have it like that, but then deal with the consequences. Either get the average "bng skill" of the players in ur clan better, or just deal with it imo!

Alot of other clans have the same problem, just in other schemes. Maybe not as drastical as the cfc bng issue, but still.

p.s Just as a little fotnote: i said this in the ps forum and ill say it here.
WE WIN AS A TEAM AND WE LOSE AS A TEAM.

DOnt remove the teamfactor from tus, will be no team feeling left at all. Its a part of the charm in tus.

Ye for sure. Remove this bull****!

The t17 tus scheme needs 2 be changed! I know we begged u guys before, but ill do it again. Clearly a bug with that 7 gird scheme. 11 (!) holys in this game, do i need 2 say more? The only positive thing was that i got over 2k in t17 rating!

Quote from: Lo0ser on January 25, 2011, 05:06 PM
Exactly. He also insulted me in game and into the host, saying repeatedly, noob, loser, gay and other things...

Well i can understand why he calls u loser...? :p

If u didnt get my joke i was refering 2 ur nick.. uhaua

heh! :p THanks for those facts sir!

Well , so does 99% of the wa community! ;p

But some1 gotta top the "brag" list also, might aswell be Zippo..

True that u beaten me much in tus classic elite. but u was a way more experienced player back then in elite. now i also played alot of more elite games! Will be closer games for sure.

from you. A bit 2 much mistakes from me if i gonna have a chance vs the zillian king..

I agree with this Franz. Next time ill make some flik flaks and maybe a salto before the kami!