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#556
Quote from: Mega`Adnan on August 29, 2021, 07:22 PM
It's okay. I'm glad you gave me another chance. I'll try my best to find them in #AG. :)

You didn't do anything wrong, Adnan. It was just a casual misunderstanding. Good luck in your games!
#557
Adnan is back in your team. Just message your opponents once you find them on #AG :)

- Echiko & Runaway
- Shark & Mzkah

I apologise to you Adnan. I was mistaken to think you don't care. You don't need to be online all the time on #AG, just please poke your opponents once you see them. I am afraid you won't find them here, since they spend most of their free time on their sparring and training to get better.

New deadline = December 31, 2021
#558
Quote from: Komito on August 29, 2021, 02:18 PM
The problem is people aren't checking here regularly enough and comminucating with each other. So i'm just here to give a little help, send out PMs, update people on what's going on. The rest is up to them.  :)

This I agree with except... what good is there in saying "I am free in these hours". If it takes 2nd person to propose their time, 3rd person to propose another time, 4rd person to propose their time and at the end  somebody will probably cancel cuz something will pop up. Also you need to assume that somehow all people will be reading the post. The way we fought Mazinger and Liav, Quai and MrBean in the cup, in the first days, it was a simple:

#AG
"Yo, guys, are you free for a game now?
"1 sec we are finishing one match, we can play in 5 min"
"okay, I go call danie, be ready guys"

That method is just practical, effective and straight to the point. I did the same dialogue with Shark and Mzkah when I found them online at the same time as Echiko and Runaway.

I would maybe understand if one participant was from Latin America, One from Europe, and one from Australia (like Pizza bro, who played back in 2015). But Echiko, Runaway, Adnan and Run are all within 2 hours of timezone differences. Same goes with Adnan, Run, Shark and Mzkah. It's also 2 hours of difference among everybody  ??? So if my team easily got together despite being with 1 leg in Mexico, Spain, Israel and Poland, then I am really surprised to see that guys within 2 hours of timezone just won't randomly bump into their 2 pairs of opponents, considering the opponents are online 6-8 hours per day.

Echiko, it's not like I can replace somebody who has already been active, and who has fulfilled their duty by playing their 1 match. All good. We can always reach the consensus.
#559
Quote from: Mega`Adnan on July 27, 2021, 11:43 AM
Lets play guys.
I am active from 15 GMT till 19 GMT, if try my best, almost upto 21 GMT. (My timezone is GMT+5 and I usually sleep around 12 or 1 AM because I feel asleep during these hours.)

Shark and Mzkah, Echiko and Runaway are on #AnythingGoes every single evening, 6 hours per day, the entire summer. None of them reported ever seeing you there, Adnan. In my view, it's no use messaging people here in the cup page, that nobody reads, if they are all waiting for you every evening on #AnythingGoes, and you are nowhere to be found. If you were there, you could just message them and host the game.

Quote from: Mega`Adnan on August 29, 2021, 08:51 AM
ZorroX and danie didn't even give me warning message, just straight up replaced me with someone else.
This is real ghetto!

It might come as a shock to you Adnan, but in Mycy's cup people who are never found on #AnythingGoes for more than 1 month are also kicked out. The participants that were kicked for that reason were:
1. Kaptowka
2. Pawelddz55
3. Leftir
4. Ty3

You could just message me in a private message to ask what is happening but you chose to make drama in the post. Maybe just try to approach people on TUS more directly, rather than through some forum posts that hardly anyone reads?
#560
Quote from: ZorroX on June 23, 2021, 03:11 AM
Okay, new squads

Marcello + Echiko
Mega`Adnan + Run (Shark said that Run tried to contact them, which is good!)
Shark(Requin) + mzkah, probably the most active pair of this season, who at the same time didn't play any match so far. I am sure this will change now :)


That's what I announced on June 23.

Adnan had 2 months and 1 day to play his match with Run. During this period Run and Adnan played zero matches. I did not see Adnan online at all. Vitos wanted to only join Run, not Adnan. I asked Vitos if he would want to play with Run, he agreed. I informed Run about the change on Discord, which he acknowleded. I can find Vitos and Shark online even now, as we talk here (attachment). Why would I not make a change if I never see Adnan on #AG?

I should have probably sent a warning, but Adnan, I don't see you anywhere on #AG. It felt to me that you are only acting like you want to play. I am sorry if I misinterpreted you there but again. I can't find you ever online, none of your enemies can. Would you like to still play along with Run? I just need to know if I can rely on you finally being online.

Komito, spare me your posts. I am not gonna read them anyway.
#561
Quote from: Run on August 28, 2021, 06:18 PM
What happened here. Did I get paired with VITOS-SVOBODA?

Seems every time i look at this cup I have a new partner lol

Due to Adnan's 2-months absence on #AnythingGoes, you were informed about the change of your partner on August 24, and you were willing to find Vitos online. Did I talk to some other Run on discord (attachment)? Adnan was assigned to you on June 23, with whom you played not a single match for 2 months.

It seems like you visit this cup once per a few months then. Maybe it's a good idea to get more interested. As far as I see, your 4 enemies are in stand-by mode on snooper every day. Maybe not all 4 at the same time, but every day at least 1 pair of your opponents can be found.
#562
So technically we have 12 pairs complete (24 participants) + GABO1000.

Maybe if nothing changes, we just start off this weekend and GABO1000 will be there to replace some inactive/absent player? (for sure there will be at least 2 inactive ones out of 24). I am just afraid that pulling more participants will result in these participants never finding a time to play their cup matches or looking for excuses not to play, and postponing it forever.

Also if you want to make sure the team on #2 place is the one actual 2nd best in the cup, rather than just weaker enemy that just happened to be on the opposite side of the bracket, just being the last one to fight the winner, I support the idea of Double Elimination.
#563
Beautiful Cup, Beautiful organiser, Beautiful scheme, 16 Pairs would be beautiful too, perfect number.
#564
Quote from: Komito on August 10, 2021, 01:10 PM
Mega`Adnan came out of nowhere and laid the smack down on you!

Komito, wtf...? Do you really see nothing wrong with dividing people in such an obnoxious way? "came out of nowhere and laid the smack down on you!". It's just... a match... we all registered on TUS to have fun together, not to look down on somebody aka "u got rekt, u sh*t". You ruin the whole spirit of this community. Have you got any idea how toxic you make such a place to Albus and others? Albus made a complaint about You, only about you, not about Adnan. Don't put words into his mouth that he did not say, just because you can't understand a simple point that he makes.

Quote from: Albus on August 10, 2021, 01:17 PM
By the way, if you think I'm belittling Mega-Adnan's vicotry in these comments why don't you let him speak first?

Komito is like that all the time, to everybody. He always pollutes the place with noise, and doesn't let people speak, even those that he "defends".
#565
General discussion / Re: Worms Without Roping?
August 22, 2021, 06:09 PM
I would play it even more.
#566
It was an honour to fight you, Run. You made this match really tough. I had many close calls against you in Round 1 and 2. Also thank you Mycy for organising this great cup. God bless you both!
#567
Schemes / Re: What is the best elaborated scheme?
August 20, 2021, 02:33 AM
Quote from: Kradie on August 20, 2021, 12:58 AM
Quote from: nino on August 20, 2021, 12:36 AM
Quote from: Kradie on August 19, 2021, 09:11 PM
Quote from: nino on August 19, 2021, 08:19 PM
Elite and STFU all lol
What makes Elite elaborated?

STFU!!!! PORRAAAAA  :D :D :D :D :D
Why can't you talk normally? Your mother need to wash your mouth. :D

let this kid with special needs have his 5 minutes, Kradie. Don't be too harsh :)


There is only elaborated scheme. It starts with M
(and it's not Mine Madness)
#568
Quote from: SIBASA on August 18, 2021, 03:20 AM
It was a very intense and interesting game. We were on a par, overtaking each other, but the guys turned out to be more accurate. Thanks for playing!

This really should have ended with a draw  :-[ Maybe we will play Golf once again soon, maybe even tonight.
#569
I know it's not part of the rules. I know that's not how "picks" work but I still wish to upload the conversation that we had just before hosting our pick (Forts, 1st match) with db clan.

Quote
(ZorroX, danie, Korydex, Gijo)
[2021-08-14 20.16.46] [ZorroX] what do you say guys?
[2021-08-14 20.16.55] [Korydex-db] can u w8 5 min plz
[2021-08-14 20.16.57] [ZorroX] sure
[2021-08-14 20.17.04] [ZorroX] choosing a map will take some time
[2021-08-14 20.17.27] [danie] what will we play today?
[2021-08-14 20.17.36] [danie] forts +  ??
[2021-08-14 20.17.39] [ZorroX] Forts + ... maybe battle race?
[2021-08-14 20.17.42] [ZorroX] but the thing is
[2021-08-14 20.17.55] [ZorroX] that these bastards will surely know the battlerace map that they pick
[2021-08-14 20.18.03] [danie] XD
[2021-08-14 20.18.05] [ZorroX] maybe they choose forts map, and we choose battlerace map?
[2021-08-14 20.18.15] [db`giJo`ale] oki
[2021-08-14 20.18.16] [ZorroX] good deal?
[2021-08-14 20.18.17] [db`giJo`ale] lol
[2021-08-14 20.18.17] [ZorroX] okay
[2021-08-14 20.18.28] [ZorroX] well, you guys were too good in the previous map
[2021-08-14 20.18.33] [db`giJo`ale] u can choose both i don't care :d
[2021-08-14 20.18.37] [danie] haha
(choosing maps)
2021-08-14 20.22.25] [ZorroX] nice...
[2021-08-14 20.22.33] [ZorroX] I think?
[2021-08-14 20.22.35] [db`giJo`ale] k
[2021-08-14 20.22.40] [danie] ok
[2021-08-14 20.23.05] [Korydex-db] back
[2021-08-14 20.23.39] [Korydex-db] lel
[2021-08-14 20.23.42] [Korydex-db] try !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.45] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.47] • Sending [11977][BTP] RumbleFort05.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.23.49] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.50] • Sending [3874][TJH] FloralFort.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.23.56] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.57] • Sending [11926][BTP] FortMap07.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 10% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.23.58] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.23.59] • Sending [3892][TJH] Fort 17.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.01] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.02] • Sending [12003][BTP] dig_Flood Fort Map.bit [ island (map), Manhattan (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.04] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.05] • Sending [3916][yuurepoer] Glaciers.png [ 3840x1392, 97 colours, island (map), Snow (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map), 0 holes (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.07] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.08] • Error with tus-wa.com request: TUS map unusable [2]: Invalid PNG signature
[2021-08-14 20.24.11] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.13] • Sending [11916][BTP] FORT_Ass9_Castle.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.13] [Korydex-db] well this is big one
[2021-08-14 20.24.13] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.14] • Sending [10975][StarJustice] TowersOfNoDRBColor.png [ 1920x696, 5 colours, island (map), Beach (Retro) (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map), 18 holes (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.15] [ZorroX] !tusmap
[2021-08-14 20.24.16] • Sending [3917][yuurepoer] Volcano Forts.png [ 3840x1392, 97 colours, island (map), Sports (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map), 0 holes (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.24.21] [Korydex-db] ass9 was good
[2021-08-14 20.24.31] [Korydex-db] !tusmap 11916
[2021-08-14 20.24.32] [ZorroX] how about this one
[2021-08-14 20.24.35] [Korydex-db] its too big
[2021-08-14 20.24.36] [db`giJo`ale] too big
[2021-08-14 20.24.36] [ZorroX] !tusmap 11916
[2021-08-14 20.24.37] • Sending [11916][BTP] FORT_Ass9_Castle.bit [ island (map), Hospital (map), no borders (scheme), 0% water level (map) ]
[2021-08-14 20.25.25] [ZorroX] !start
[2021-08-14 20.25.25] ••• Starting game, recorded as file "User\Games\2021-08-14 20.25.25 [Online] HostingBuddy, danie, @ZorroX, db`giJo`ale, Korydex-db.WAgame"

Dialogue after Forts already ended, when with danie, we headed to their host (their pick, 2nd match)

Quote
(ZorroX, danie, Korydex, Gijo, Komito)
[2021-08-14 21.07.14] [Korydex-db] we pick br
[2021-08-14 21.07.24] [ZorroX] we already discussed that when you were away
[2021-08-14 21.07.38] [ZorroX] in a way that you pick Forts map, and we pick BattleRace map
[2021-08-14 21.07.41] [ZorroX] Gijo agreed
[2021-08-14 21.08.23] [ZorroX] if you use your well known BattleRace map, ones that you have in your folder, then the advantage you have would be huge
[2021-08-14 21.08.55] [db`giJo`ale] lmao bro i played almost all the mapsm what should i do? :D
[2021-08-14 21.09.08] [ZorroX] 22262 battle race map if it's fine
[2021-08-14 21.09.13] [db`giJo`ale] oki
[2021-08-14 21.09.15] [Korydex-db] 1 sec
[2021-08-14 21.09.17] [ZorroX] https://www.wmdb.org/22262
[2021-08-14 21.09.21] [Korydex-db] nah
[2021-08-14 21.09.36] [ZorroX] what nah? we chose your forts map
[2021-08-14 21.09.43] [Korydex-db] its our pick
[2021-08-14 21.09.56] [ZorroX] we already agreed on that bro
[2021-08-14 21.10.01] [ZorroX] there is no discussion now
[2021-08-14 21.10.17] [ZorroX] you woke up too late, should have read what was on the chat
[2021-08-14 21.10.35] [Komito`db`] Zorro - You don't know how Clanners work do you?
[2021-08-14 21.11.26] [ZorroX] Komito, be quiet, we already agreed on choosing our map for their chosen battlerace
[2021-08-14 21.12.03] [Komito`db`] You don't get to decide the map for your opponents pick, did Korydex and giJo allow you to pick the map for them? I highly doubt that lol
[2021-08-14 21.12.08] [ZorroX] we played THEIR map pick for Forts
[2021-08-14 21.12.13] [Komito`db`] You did?
[2021-08-14 21.12.17] [Korydex-db] go or free win
[2021-08-14 21.12.17] [Komito`db`] Did they demand a specific map?
[2021-08-14 21.12.25] [Komito`db`] Or did they request a different map?
[2021-08-14 21.12.29] [ZorroX] They did
[2021-08-14 21.12.29] [Komito`db`] There is a difference
[2021-08-14 21.12.48] [danie] they agreed that in the last game... but I dont know why all this mess
[2021-08-14 21.13.02] [Korydex-db] i didnt agree on anything
[2021-08-14 21.13.11] [ZorroX] Battle Race is strictly connected with how well you know the map
[2021-08-14 21.13.12] [db`giJo`ale] that's true haha
[2021-08-14 21.13.22] [ZorroX] so we said in the previous chat
[2021-08-14 21.13.36] [ZorroX] that they can choose map for Forts, if we get to choose map for BattleRace
[2021-08-14 21.13.39] [ZorroX] Gijo and Danie agreed
[2021-08-14 21.13.42] [danie] ok Gijo said that was ok to choose (you) the fort map while we will be free to pick the battle race
[2021-08-14 21.13.46] [ZorroX] Korydex is unaware of what is happening now
[2021-08-14 21.13.51] [Korydex-db] go or free win
[2021-08-14 21.14.09] [Komito`db`] Zorro
[2021-08-14 21.14.15] [ZorroX] we can report Free win
[2021-08-14 21.14.23] [Korydex-db] wtf are u talking about idiot
[2021-08-14 21.14.31] [ZorroX] because you refuse to choose our map, like you chose our Forts map
[2021-08-14 21.14.38] [Komito`db`] For there to be an agreement ALL PARTIES must specifically state they are accepting the suggestion
[2021-08-14 21.14.49] [ZorroX] we played their pick for Forts map, like we agreed
[2021-08-14 21.15.27] [ZorroX] I literally have Gijo on archive saying he agrees to play in such a way
[2021-08-14 21.15.28] [Korydex-db] if u wont play i wont play u again lmao
[2021-08-14 21.15.35] [ZorroX] Korydex came back, and chose THEIR map for Forts
[2021-08-14 21.15.36] [db`giJo`ale] i actually don't care, i can play on every map lol
[2021-08-14 21.15.40] [ZorroX] (our pick)
[2021-08-14 21.15.51] [Korydex-db] this is some bullshit
[2021-08-14 21.15.54] [db`giJo`ale] that's why i said i don't care
[2021-08-14 21.16.23] [ZorroX] I got the archive I don't care
[2021-08-14 21.16.30] [ZorroX] so choose my map
[2021-08-14 21.16.31] [ZorroX] https://www.wmdb.org/22262
[2021-08-14 21.16.35] [Korydex-db] no
[2021-08-14 21.16.39] [Korydex-db] lets go dude
[2021-08-14 21.16.44] [Korydex-db] dont be a bitch
[2021-08-14 21.16.55] [ZorroX] you have a map, just pick it up, don't be a (censorship)
[2021-08-14 21.16.57] [Korydex-db] or i report free win and never play u again
[2021-08-14 21.17.06] [Komito`db`] *sigh*
[2021-08-14 21.17.09] [ZorroX] we played YOUR MAP
[2021-08-14 21.17.13] [ZorroX] like we all agreed
[2021-08-14 21.17.25] [Komito`db`] Copy and paste all the chat logs
[2021-08-14 21.17.30] [Komito`db`] And I promise you, everyone will prove you wrong
[2021-08-14 21.17.31] [Komito`db`] DO it
[2021-08-14 21.17.32] [ZorroX] I will
[2021-08-14 21.17.33] [Komito`db`] I DARE YOU
[2021-08-14 21.17.40] [Komito`db`] Then once everyone says you are wrong
[2021-08-14 21.17.44] [Komito`db`] Including the TUS League moderators
[2021-08-14 21.17.48] [Komito`db`] Will you accept you are wrong?
[2021-08-14 21.17.50] [ZorroX] Fair enough
[2021-08-14 21.17.54] [Komito`db`] Ok
[2021-08-14 21.18.01] [ZorroX] I will post on Tus
[2021-08-14 21.18.48] [danie] the thing is that Gijo agreed, and if it's your pick I don't see why you dont want to choose our map
[2021-08-14 21.18.58] [danie] is like if you choose any of mole maps
[2021-08-14 21.18.59] [ZorroX] if Korydex is such a (censorship), and he is too scared to play on an unknown map, I will play
[2021-08-14 21.19.02] [danie] I wouldn't care
[2021-08-14 21.19.17] • Game will take advantage of the latest 3.8.1 features and bug fixes
[2021-08-14 21.19.18] ••• Starting game, recorded as file "User\Games\2021-08-14 21.19.18 [Online] Korydex-db, db`giJo`ale, danie, @ZorroX, Komito`db`.WAgame"

I know that verbal agreements are not a thing, but we did want to meet them half-way, considering nobody likes to play our Mole Shopper. Up to now all our clanner picks were discussed prior to avoid surprises. When 2 sides with 1 representative come to an agreement, I thought (it seems like I have been wrong all along), that you just stick to what your colleagues agreed upon. Especially since Korydex specifically gave us a number with the map to select.

As always, I am probably wrong and I should not trust verbal agreements. Ehhh... Either way I did cut off some of the salty exchanges with Komito as they didn't add anything to the case itself.
#570
If I am allowed, I just want to shed some light on 3 things.

1. You always put all your heart into the 1st match. Upon hearing that it's been all in vain, you will never play the 2nd round as good. Moreover, the person whose loss was spared instantly gains an immense boost in morale (just like Uruguay that won against Ghana in penalty shootout in 2010 after Ghana's goal was stopped by hands). So the argument that Adnan did "some great moves there" isn't fair in my opinion.

One example is drawing. I used to draw a lot. I would spend 10 hours of one bigger project. I would just be utterly demotivated to do the same as good again if it was destroyed. We all lost an essay that we spent a night on, you know this feeling.

2. One person said that Albus "agreed" to play rematch so he should be fine with it. Please show me a football player who was informed that his successful penalty was invalid, he must repeat is, and the footballer refused to do so... Nobody will refuse in a heat of a moment.

3. Komito, my friend, everybody knows you are a fantastic mod and that you have good intentions. No authority is needed here. You already earned everybody's respect. Winning is not accidental. The one who is better will win if you let them fight on a separate day, 4 days from now so that they can appear there both given 2nd chance for their morale to be the same. I think you know what's a right to do. I have damaged the good spirit of my own 2vs2 cup by my mistake, so I don't want the same to happen to this cup.

Heads up. We are all human beings. All good