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In english that is, german is way harder...

Quote from: Komito on June 18, 2011, 01:12 AM
Trust me, I am right, using KeyChanger is perfectly innocent, if companies could make cheap keyboards without keylock, problem solved, why the hell do they make keyboards with keylock anyway? Coming to think about it, does anyone know why they are manufactured like this??

Well, considering keyboard's are mostly used for typing and it seems to be cheaper to manufacture keyboards which have a keylock i guess the manufacturer's don't pay too much attention on avoiding they keylock. Plus they'll be able to sell their keylock-free gaming keyboards well. Bit of a maketing scam i guess...

Quote from: Komito on June 18, 2011, 12:53 AM
And your work makes it even worse btw, you are playing with peoples lives, they are in risk of an accidental dosage of medicine, or a surgery gone wrong and could die, they could catch infection just being at the Hospital, but, it's all in good cause, trying to save people.

You say, it's only a 12 year old game, well, if it's "only a game" then don't say it's not cool?

Jesus man you just can't let one topic pass without yet another stupid controversial offending side kick on someone to put the spotlight on you. Shame really, i know you could do better.

Quote from: Komito on June 18, 2011, 12:26 AM
You being a doctor should be on the same line.

People dying, you use programs and machines etc to stop them from dying, therefor cheating life and the natural way of things.

But we're still talking about cheating on a kid video game right?

Quote from: Maciej on June 17, 2011, 10:37 PM
Chakkman... just read first post in this topic, MI clearly explained.
It's about script in AHK who allows you to press another space, while one is already pressed, and still work! Normaly it blocks you, because just think, you can't press your space while it's already pressed, same in keychanger, remapkey, but it was special script to allow it. You don't need too good timing with it, because you don't care if you leave space or not, it works everytime you press it.

Hm, think i gotta try it to see what it does, from what google tells me it's some macro program similar to the G-series Logitech driver thing but dunno...

Well, i get that you will achieve a certain advantage if you are used to using it. But then, where does cheating start? I know Mablak has put some paper ball under his spacebar to make the way it needs to activate the key shorter and to make it snap back quicker which is basically the same as using a low profile keyboard, notebook like. And Autohotkey, the way i understood it, basically does the same as if you had set up a macro on your fancy gaming keyboard. And then, people who do fingerroll have an advantage to people doing one finger roping and so on... already been discussed loads and it never comes to a result. I can't even say i care anymore also if someone cheats or not. If that person is trying hard to make an absolute retard fool out of himself then why not give him the chance to do so. It'll all come back on him.

Hmm,i think the most important question hasn't been answered yet... didn't read the whole thread so sorry if it has been: How are you able to determine if some1 is using a program or not? If the program is not in any way modifying the w:a physics i don't see any way to do so... unless you set up rules on what is a human being capable of or not, including the advantages one has with 2 fingers or multiple finger tapping and so on. Actually i don't even think that autohotkey thing (as far as i understood it...) gives you an advantage, i guess you have to get used to it and 100% get comfortable with it to use it without doing mistakes. Same goes with macros, UWT (dunno why that is considered as cheating coz some basic things like doing shadows is not possible with it unless you mix normal roping and UWT) or stuff like that.

Quote from: Breeze on June 16, 2011, 08:43 AM
Glad the community is now full of pre-pube raging teenagers now. Sweet.
I wanted discussion not, "omfg n00b", "hyst is my lovverr, I jack it twice a night to it".. etc.

Well you said Hysteria is a stupid, idiotic non league worthy scheme so i guess that you can't expect else. I never liked hyst also but i accepted that there are people who like the scheme and we already had more than one poll to determine whether it should stay in classic league or not so... nonetheless i'm on your side here. Hysteria for me still represents everything which is being considered as lame in other schemes, especially darksiding.

Happy birthday dude. Soon you'll be a member of the 30 circle. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.

I see. Well, just can hope then that it won't be abused much i guess.

Quote from: CyberShadow on May 24, 2011, 06:39 PM

Quote from: chakkman on April 18, 2011, 02:57 PMI'm not a professional but how could that be possible unless Cybershadow didn't make either Worms or Wormkit not safe towards hacks like that?   Not calling you a liar but that sounds pretty weird.

I've posted about this here on the Team17 forums, but I feel I should clarify this.

1. There is little to prevent me or Deadcode from adding a virus which destroys your computer* in W:A Beta updates. (Team17 do a cursory check before publishing them online.)
2. These is nothing to prevent me from adding a virus in the WormKit EXE/DLLs which destroys your computer.
3. There is nothing to prevent Pisto from adding a virus which destroys your computer in RubberWorm.
4. There is nothing to prevent Lookias from adding a virus which destroys your computer in the Wheat Snooper EXE.
5. There is nothing to prevent Kawoosh from adding a virus which destroys your computer in his RubberWorm/KawooshKick/etc. modules.
6. There is nothing to prevent StepS from adding a virus which destroys your computer in his RubberWorm installer.
7. Ultimately, there is nothing to prevent ANYONE from adding a virus which destroys your computer into any software that they wrote and you downloaded. On-line or downloadable virus checkers do not guarantee that any file is "safe".

If you download someone's code from the Internet, you pretty much entrust all the files from your computer to them.  That it can modify any aspect of W:A's programming goes without saying. If you're playing this game, you probably trust me and Deadcode not to do something like that, but I can't speak for anyone else. If you don't trust someone, don't run their software.

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* Figuratively, of course, but you get the point. Even without admin privileges, a trojan can still steal all your personal files and passwords, and make the computer unusable without technical intervention.

Not sure what any of those points would have to do with StepS modifying Wormkit to affect another player's gaming experience though. And furthermore, in my naive understanding, i always thought program code is somehow encrypted to prevent people being able to modify it easily. And if that is not possible and you get to hear about people modifying it to abuse it (like happened here) you should have a serious word with the respective person...

True, i even found that picture when i googled for spanking...

Lol, don't get faster please.

Edit: Mh... btw, is it a bug that the points differ when viewing the Challenge dteails and the map details? Says 25 points for #1 on the challenge display and 20 pts for #1 on the map details...

Quote from: franz on May 17, 2011, 10:55 PM

Quote from: Ramone on May 17, 2011, 10:43 PM
Great stuff! I might try to do some newbwarmer too here.. ;x
I just wonder who's gonna judge it when it comes to top 5 ?
It's kinda difficult to judge this stuff.. U need a council that do votes and things.. Who'll judge?!

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind if only U (franz) judge, I've just wondered..

Yes judging is subjective, but this is for fun. I do my best to judge fairly.

If anyone thinks they might get offended by the judging, please don't participate.
If not, and you want a friendly warmer competition, I encourage you to play.

Would be nice if the people could vote for the best turn. I mean a voting system for mods and stuff has already been implemented, so won't be THAT hard to code something i guess.

Hm, roping looks all so normal on these old replays... when you watch a warmer nowadays it looks like 50% of the players use some kind of macro.