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Quote from: TheKomodo on October 23, 2023, 12:09 PM
If you wanted to say that you find it offensive for others, then you should have said:

You don't have the right to tell me what I should do and what I shouldn't do. I said it as I said it. Moreover my point was clearly understandable from the context unless you're an idiot. In addition, right after this sentence I said that: "Although I also think that being a noob is normal." How can I be offended at things that I consider as normal?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 23, 2023, 12:09 PM
You could have also said:
"I don't find the word "noob" offensive, though others may!"

No, I couldn't. Because I find this word offensive, as I said. And then you could like to ask: "Offensive for whom?" And I've answered you in advance, continuing the sentence after the comma:
"many people could get offended". But I haven't said that I MIGHT BE offended at the word. Also I haven't said that I WAS offended or I HAVE EVER BEEN offended at the word. Where are these facts? Does not exist. There are only your speculations. Only you have understood it this (wrong) way, and you're trying to prove to everyone that your point is literally true. But with each next post your arguments become more and more pathetic.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 23, 2023, 12:09 PM
Now you're trying to deny it!

I'm not trying, I've categorically rejected it using arguments, facts and logic.

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So, ladies and gentlemen, you have all witnessed how double standards works:

1. I wrote a feedback and my honest opinion about the event.
2. You categorically rejected my review instead of thinking about it (although that's normal, the thinking process is not for everyone) and began to convince me for some reason, trying to prove that I was wrong. Although I have repeatedly said that I do not need to be convinced. I've put this feedback not for arguing. It looks like as if a marketer began convincing a buyer and proving that he is a fool and his opinion is worthless. This is just stupid and can ruin the seller's reputation.
3. Then you continue attacking and convincing me, using various stupid jokes, but these jokes has came back to you like a boomerang.
4. Then you start testing the narrative, as if I'm offended at the word noob. Let's see how you did it:

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 02:26 PM
So, all in all, if you are not comfortable with the word "noob", then that's your problem, not mine.

In the beginning you was talking about this as an assumption, using sentence "if you are not comfortable with the word noob", which literally means that you was not 100% sure about it.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 09:46 PM
I get the feeling you're offended by the word "noob", though other than that, it's just another day for me lol.

Next you've got a feeling that I'm offended at the word noob. Using the word "feeling" meant that you was talking about it not as a fact, but as your own feeling, premonition, or assumption.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
You're the one who got offended about the word "noob" and demanded I don't use such a word.

Next you said about it as if it was a completed fact, besides even noting that I am THE ONLY ONE, who was offended. Very cunningly your assumptions and feelings was turned out into facts. But these are not real facts, only your speculations. Facts requires proofs. The only thing you are trying to present as a proof is your lovely english dictionary. You can't justify your point of view using only the one dictionary. It doesn't work this way. And I have already explained why so.

5. Then you failed on almost all fronts, and you've started cavilling to my previous words, especially about noobs, where I said that "many people could get offended". You misunderstood the meaning of the sentence and began proving as if your point of view was the absolute, literal truth. I overwhelmed you with facts, arguments, abstract examples and logic connections for defending my point and showing that you misunderstood. It haven't worked, because you cavil only to certain words, that could potentially get benefit for you in arguing, but you close your eyes to everything else. It is truly DELUSIONAL IGNORANCE. Congratulations, this label has came back to you like a boomerang as well. Moreover, this is a truly DOUBLE STANDARDS too.

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THE FINAL CONCLUSIONS:

The person is stubborn, arrogancy and also sick and he cannot be treated by arguments and logic.

I guess the experiment is over. I'm going out. Thanks for watching and see you next time! 

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 22, 2023, 08:24 PM
As I've quoted multiple times already:

Yeah, cool, I saw that multiple times too.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 22, 2023, 08:24 PM
This sentence was taken from this entire post:

Perfect!

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 22, 2023, 08:24 PM
You literally said that, the post has not been edited yet either so you can't edit it and claim you never said it.

So just in case you try to edit it in the future, I've taken a screenshot to prove it:

Don't worry, I don't do that kind of things. Evenmore I don't need that it this case, because my point is strong and unbreakable.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 22, 2023, 08:24 PM
Let's break down the sentence and properly explain what it means, literally, in the English language.

Imo means "In my opinion", which means that YOU are saying it's something that YOU believe.

Nice, keep going!

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 22, 2023, 08:24 PM
Then there is the word "noob" in quotation marks, which specifies that you are speaking about THAT word specifically.

Exactly. Your deductive abilities are beginning to please me.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 22, 2023, 08:24 PM
Then you continued after the quote with "word is a bit offensive". Which solidifies that you think that word is offensive. You could have said "very offensive" or "barely offensive" but it's still offensive on some level.

STOP AT THIS MOMENT! Now let's do it again: I find this word a bit offensive FOR OTHERS. I wrote this to you in the next posts, but you seem to have gone blind. Let's check the facts what I've said:

Quote from: flashR on October 20, 2023, 01:27 AM
I've never been offended at the word noob. Where did you even get such conclusions from? I don't care at all, and as I said, I'm always ready to admit that I'm a noob and I'm fine.

Quote from: flashR on October 21, 2023, 11:27 PM
do you see the difference between sentences: "many people could get offended" and "I've never been offended at the word noob"? "MANY PEOPLE" IS NOT RELATED TO ME! Everyone has their own opinion and point of view. The word noob can't trigger me, as I said before. And if I find this word offensive, this DOES NOT MEAN that I can be offended at it. I find this word a bit offensive FOR OTHERS.

Now explain me, nerd, why I can't have my own opinion about others and their potential reaction to a certain word? Is this prohibited in English language? Explain in detail. I know you can do it perfectly.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 22, 2023, 08:24 PM
Then you wrote "many people could get offended", with the keyword being "could" which indicates that other people may be offended by the word "noob" as well. It doesn't mean they definitely are, or that anyone actually is, just that it's possible!

Not AS WELL and not OTHER PEOPLE. This is your speculation. I wrote "many people" in this post.
I literally meant that MANY people may be offended by the word "noob", and I did not relate myself with the MANY PEOPLE, as I said next.
In addition, right after this sentence (in the same post) I wrote this:

Quote from: flashR on October 16, 2023, 11:31 PM
Although I also think that being a noob is normal. I still tell everyone that I'm a noob. 

Now explain me, nerd, how can I get offended at word noob if I've said that I think that being noob is normal and I tell everyone that I'm a noob?
Seems like you're very selective about only certain details, that you'd like to note. But you literally close your eyes on the rest. Or maybe you're just blind, I'm not sure. Stop your speculations.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 22, 2023, 08:24 PM
You've literally made a statement there indicating that YOU find the word offensive.

Yes I find this word offensive FOR OTHERS, but PERSONALLY I've never get offended at this word.

You lose. Checkmate. Let's go our separate ways.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 11:47 PM
You said you were offended, now you claim you never said that, even when it's right there in plain sight.

Where and when did I say this?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 11:47 PM
Next you will be telling us humans don't need oxygen to survive lol.

You literally said something, then deny that you said it, even when the evidence is right there.

Clinical idiotism is an extremely dangerous disease... Cannot be treated. Neither by helping of logic, nor by helping of evidences.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 11:47 PM
Anyway, I'm so confident I am right, I'd literally kill myself if I was not.

Then you must kill yourself right now. Especially considering that you are sick. Just don't bite anyone, it might be contagious.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
You're the one who got offended about the word "noob" and demanded I don't use such a word.

Lie again. I have already written 2 times that I am not offended at the word noob, and even said that I was ready to admit that I am a noob and I'm okay with that. Stop passing off your speculations as facts, it's not even funny, it's already a clinical case.

Also, the word "demanded" is wrong too, I just adviced. How can I demand something from a stranger?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
You gave me a suggestion about "strict rules", I declined it, you should have left it at that but you didn't, you keep pushing.

Is there any reason for me to keep pushing? Open your eyes! The event is closed, I'm not a participant, and right now I absolutely don't care about your rules and your vision, thank your stupidity and unethical behavior towards others and me.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
I'm stubborn in that I will not stop defending myself, you're stubborn because you keep attacking.

No, I'm defending myself here, and you keep trying to make an idiot out of me, making stupid jokes and trying to find contradictions in my previous words, but there are no contradictions, so take it easy.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
This started when YOU got offended at the word "noob".

This didn't happen, I'm saying this for the millionth time. These are your fantasies or stupid jokes.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
You're the one who is trying to tell me what I should and should not do & say.

Don't think so.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
You keep grasping at straws, you keep making these outrageous examples that have NOTHING to do with the actual conversation...

These outrageous examples are as close to reality as possible, and if you don't understand this, these are just problems of your thinking. I even assume that highly likely you've realized this and you are deliberately rejecting these examples, because you don't want to seem even more stupid.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
It's not even so much the language as your inability to accept a mistake and learn from it.

I'm able to admit mistakes. But I don't see any mistakes here. My logic is strong, as well is my position.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
You associate the word "noob" with a depreciative meaning, I LITERALLY GAVE YOU EVIDENCE that it is not a bad word!

Where was any evidence? The only evidence that you gave me was your lovely english dictionary. But wake up, dude! Do you live by a dictionary? I assume that 99% of Wormnet players doesn't have an english dictionary on their shelf. And I'm among them. I perfectly understand the meaning of the word noob, I don't need a dictionary for that. You should understand that we have a REAL OPINIONS of people on the one side, and on the other side we have a piece of paper smeared with paint, which almost no one uses. Don't give the words written in your dictionary as immutable truth. Otherwise, I'll really start calling the orderlies soon. By the way, when was the dictionary published, which year?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
I am NOT trying to make you look like an idiot, I'm trying to help you learn that "noob" is NOT a bad word, it's a perfectly innocent word to use to accurately describe what a newcomer is!

1. You're trying to make me look like an idiot when you cavilling to my previous words, trying to find contradictions and irrational logic, but it's not there.
2. I don't need your help. And, as I said, I don't need to be convinced, that is one of the reason why I've put this example with customer and marketer.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
Evidence of YOU being triggered by the word "noob".

Where is evidence?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
If there was no such thing as a noob, then the word wouldn't exist!

Stop, stop, stop. Don't be silly. I didn't talk about the word noob itself, and of course they exists somewhere: in other schemes, in other games etc. I'm telling you for the 4th time that I meant exclusively freestyling. And I detailed explained why. Also I didn't mean a random passengers, who just come in and out. I don't know how else I can explain it to you. I believe that people come to freestyle with at least basic skills. I also said this ~3 times already. People with basic skills can barely be called noobs. But even if you really want to, I adviced  you don't do it, and explained in detail why.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
ANYONE has access to this website. They can create an account and sign up, without even knowing what a "Warmer" is, or even knowing what the word "Freestyle" means.

Oh, really? And how many noobs has joined to your event this way?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
What Kradie said was different to what you and FoxHound said.

Sure. Should we write the same way, using the same words? The meaning was general - no one liked the word noob. Let's check the facts:

Quote from: Kradie on October 19, 2023, 09:22 AM
Imo Noob is supposed to be offensive... <> To use the word noob can both have both positive and negative effect on a person's psyche.

Quote from: FoxHound on October 19, 2023, 11:51 AM
I completely agree with Kradie. Noob is not the same thing as Newbie. Noob is pejorative.

Quote from: vesuvio on October 19, 2023, 04:32 PM
in fact u so silly... we need MORE newbs to alive this game !

Quote from: flashR on October 16, 2023, 11:31 PM
But if we're talking about culture of freestyling and about Warmer in general, we should not scare people away by calling someone a noob.

Right, Vesuvio said something different from Kradie or Foxhound, but he meant almost the same thing as I said before. We both talked about resurrecting the game. He said that we need more newbs, then I said that we shouldn't scare people away by calling noobs and there's a logic: how will we get more newbs if you gonna continue call them noobs, insulting them and scaring away?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
Also your inability to remember what you've said before.
You also keep denying things which there is clear evidence of, with your OWN words!

Are you trying to make a fool out of me again? It's impossible, because I'm not a fool. Therefore, it would be better for you to stop this circus show.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 21, 2023, 03:06 AM
You don't even realize what you wrote, YOUR OWN WORDS!
You wrote that in your opinion, the word is offensive, and that also many people could get offended.

Yes that's exactly what I wrote. And I want to ask you again: do you see the difference between sentences: "many people could get offended" and "I've never been offended at the word noob"? "MANY PEOPLE" IS NOT RELATED TO ME! Everyone has their own opinion and point of view. The word noob can't trigger me, as I said before. And if I find this word offensive, this DOES NOT MEAN that I can be offended at it. I find this word a bit offensive FOR OTHERS.

Now tell me, are you really so stupid or are you pretending?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 20, 2023, 04:09 PM
Your use of the word "customer" is hilarious!

I'm a hilarious guy generally.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 20, 2023, 04:09 PM
I am not a shop, you are not a customer.

Yes, you are not a shop, you are a stubborn guy with no imagination and abstract thinking. It is hopeless to explain that this was a comparison that best suited my point of view on this situation.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 20, 2023, 04:09 PM
You WERE a participant, however the Cup is closed now, so now you're just a person whinging.

I never whine, you're delusional again. I simply put my review here with a good intentions. But you started attacking instead of thinking. And for some reason I was trying to calm you down and explain that I didn't want anything bad. But you continue to attack and try to make me an idiot by cavilling to my previous words. Keep in mind, nerd, that english is not my native language. Let's try switching to Russian, and I'll try to start making an idiot out of you? You have no single chance on this field.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 20, 2023, 04:09 PM
Unless you want to give me money and I'll sell you some feet pics?

We are not interested in that on the continent. Why should I see this? Do you walk barefooted on the island and you want bragging about it?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 20, 2023, 04:09 PM

It is 100% clear, you were triggered by the specific word "noob", otherwise you wouldn't have replied specifically talking about the word "noob".

If you want to change your mind, that's fine!

Though that's exactly what happened. Trying to deny is ridiculous when the evidence is right there.

Emm, what happened? Is there evidence of what?

This was my recommendation regarding freestyling and the scheme. And let's do it again for clarity: I said that there are no noobs only in freestyle, I didn't talk about other schemes, other games, etc. I also explained the reasons in great detail. If a person came to freestyle, he has at least basic skills, unless he was a "random passenger". It's impossible to be a freestyler without some basic skills as well as impossible to solve integrals without knowing the multiplication table. I'll never change my mind, don't even try. You can accept it or not, I don't care.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 20, 2023, 04:09 PM
You personally believe that the word "noob" is a bad thing, while I do not.

I've already explained what the word literally means, that it isn't inherently bad.

I've even acknowledged the fact that some people DO associate it in a depreciative manner!

Now instead of just accepting that truth, you've went on a rant about how you're a customer and I should accept your "review" lol.

Dude, open your eyes! It's not just me who are thinking like this. At least 3 more people (Kradie, FoxHound, Vesuvio) have told you the same thing, only using a different words. You are trying with your english dictionary to break a tradition that has been forming for decades of years. I don't know what's wrong with you. You should try to come into any other game and calling someone a noob. And I will be happy to watch how you will excuse yourself that you didn't want to offend anyone.

I guess all the noted persons (Kradie, FoxHound, Vesuvio) are those, who could have potentially being interested in the event. Like as if a focus-group or team of testers. You've showed great disrespect for their opinions, and I don't even know how you can be so careless about your potential audience.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 20, 2023, 04:09 PM
I am blatantly refusing your recommendation

You should have started with this sentence. Then I wouldn't even continue the conversation with you.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 20, 2023, 04:09 PM
Can you not accept that I don't want to do it the way you want me to do it?

Sure.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 20, 2023, 04:09 PM
I'm literally quoting things THAT YOU SAID!

Umm? Yes you are. Do you see the difference between sentences "I've never been offended at the word noob" and "many people could get offended at the word noob"? Where is the contradiction? Or what is your question?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 09:46 PM
This all started because YOU said there shouldn't be such "strict rules" which then escalated to YOU having a problem with the word "noob"...

Dude, you're really delusional. I have no problems at all, because I'm just a "customer" here. YOU have a problems here as an organizer, because your event is unpopular. And I was just trying to help by noting some recommendations and feedback.

In addition, I even said here that I'm a noob and I'm fine with that.  Personally, this word doesn't trigger me.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 09:46 PM
You came in here preaching about what Warmer should and shouldn't be, and I disagree with you.

The whole point WAS to have strict rules! To be for the best of the best! To have anything else would defeat the entire point of this event... This is where your overwhelming sense of entitlement kicked in when I disagreed with you on this.

There's pure lie. Whether it was intentional or not, I don't even know. "Preaching", "overwhelming sense of entitlement" - these are all wrong words. I explained my concept in as much details as possible: I am the customer, who just put a little review. You're the organizer, who can or can not accept that. The rest is your imagination.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 09:46 PM
You can give me suggestions! Though you cannot tell me how to run my own event.

That's actually what I did, – I gave some suggestions here. Besides I told you 2 times that it's your business and you can do it as you want. Looks like two times is not enough, do you need a third time?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 09:46 PM
Though, there are absolutely noobs in Warmers, and everything else in life, both objectively and subjectively. To believe there is not is delusional ignorance.

When did I say that I believe noobs don't exist? I just recommended you get rid of the WORD "noob" in your rhetoric, not noobs themselves (unless if you're a killer ofc  ). In order to avoid making the Warmer scheme even more unpopular by scaring people away. There's definitely something wrong with your perception of the general line of the dialogue.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 09:46 PM
You're the one attacking!

You said I shouldn't have made "strict rules" in the beginningso I justified why I should. In my eyes the whole event would be useless without these strict rules.

Yes, I said that you shouldn't have made so strict rules in the beginning. It's my honest opinion and I emphasized this many times: as you can see, my post with this SUGGESTION contains the word "IMO", I even used CAPS LOCK to emphasize this detail. Imo means "in MY OPINION" if you don't know. You may have a different opinion. But you don't need to prove me that my opinion was wrong.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 09:46 PM
Then you got offended at the word "noob", you started saying that using this word is bad, when literally it's not a bad thing unless you want it to be.

I've never been offended at the word noob. Where did you even get such conclusions from? I don't care at all, and as I said, I'm always ready to admit that I'm a noob and I'm fine.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 09:46 PM
We're not talking about an official product that I am selling... I'd have to go through health & safety measures, and whatever other legal stuff in order not to get sued...

Emm, what? You can't even imagine the described situation. Health, safety measures, legal stuff... What's wrong with you?  Where did you get this from?
I suggested imagining the simple situation, where you are the marketer and I am the customer, because this is close to reality, because otherwise you're refusing to understand my message. Seems like everyone here has already understood the main message, except you. And only you're continuing to draw the strangest conclusions in your head.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 01:04 AM
Of course, why shouldn't I take it literally? Are you suggesting your words are sarcastic? Or exaggerated?

If you are deliberately speaking with sarcasm, or exaggeration, or any other form of meaning other than literal, then you need to specify that, otherwise I will take your words literal by dictionary definition.

Man, are you serious? Do you really take all the words literally? Don't you understand sarcasm or exaggeration? In real life, do you also ask for warnings about sarcasm in advance? This is very strange if so. Tbh I spoke without sarcasm or exaggeration. Often there is something more hidden behind the words, and I'm surprised if you don't understand this.

There are people who can not (or don't want) see/feel the general line of a dialogue, but they perfectly cavil to every single word. I don't want to offend you, but you look like that kind of person in my mind. I will try to explain this point of view next.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 01:04 AM
I mean, for me it's very simple, I'm not sure about you though.

In general, I believe that the whole world is very complex and diversified, and it would be weird to say that everything is simple.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 01:04 AM
Sorry but you literally did say that

A perfect example of caviling and taking words out of context. Yes, I said so, but I was talking about the culture of freestyling and atmosphere of the Warmer. And yes, there are no noobs here, simply because, as I said before, if you've came to FREESTYLE, then you at least have basic skills. If you have a basic skills, you can't be called a noob objectively (unless there is a goal to insult and humiliate). In addition, the word FREESTYLE itself suggests that a person can move FREELY and has STYLE. A noob can't move freely and can't be stylish (if we're not talking about fashion style ofc ), because of lacks of skills. This is a special note for you, because I see that you love dictionaries.

Anyway, DON'T label anyone a noob, even if YOU THINK that he/she is a noob! I have already listed the reasons several times.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 02:26 PM
At least Kradie is saying it's his opinion, because the literal truth is different from his opinion.

This is what I really like...  I have finally met the only person in the world who can see THE LITERAL TRUTH. Sorry for the joke, but it looks like you are exalted, the sensei of all humanity.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 01:04 AM
In my head I know it's a great idea the way I vision it, the problem is we have less than 0.5% of players interested in Warmers as we used to 20 years ago...

Man, your reaction to healthy criticism is really weird. Let me try to explain from the other side. As simple as possible. Look, just imagine that you are a marketer, and I am a customer of your product (by the way, this is a very close comparison to truth, because you are the organizer and I wanted to participate in this event). There were a moments that confused me and I've gave a healthy criticism and left feedback. Instead of thinking about it and accepting this feedback, you've started to argue and tried to prove that I was wrong. But I don't need it, because:

1. I leaved this feedback not for arguing.
2. I know that I'm right and please don't try to force your opinion on me.

I just noted a POSSIBLE reasons that could affect the success of the event.

Just imagine, the customer have bought the product. He didn't like something and left a negative review on the website. Then the marketer came there and began to convince him that he was wrong, the product was the best in the world, and the customer was a moron generally. How do you think this is a healthy reaction? How will this reaction affect sales? Just think about it with a "cold head".

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 19, 2023, 02:26 PM
In my head I know it's a great idea the way I vision it, the problem is we have less than 0.5% of players interested in Warmers as we used to 20 years ago...

You need to understand a few things here:

1. "Nowadays" and "20 years ago" - are the different things. Approaches that worked 20 years ago may not work now, and vice versa.
2. Customers doesn't care about thoughts in the head of a marketer. They only needs a good and high-quality product/service. I don't want to say that I don't care about your thoughts of a successful event. This is wrong! But in this situation I more act as a customer, let's be honest, with a good intentions.

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Perhaps I spoke a bit offensive somewhere, sorry if so. But the truth shouldn't be offensive. Right? Do your own business as you want and good luck with that.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 11:56 PM
Sorry, but that is delusionally ignorant...

Please don't mistake that and think that I am insulting you because I'm not! It's just a blatant fact because what you said is incorrect and quite delusional to think there isn't such a thing as a noob when there clearly is.

A noob literally means they are a beginner, that their skill level is of entry/basic level. I'm not going to call them anything else other than a noob, or a beginner, or that they have basic or a lack of experience.

Either way they all mean the same sort of thing, that they aren't even close to being good yet.

It has nothing to do with competing or not.

You didn't understand my message. You are taking everything too literally, although I meant something else. Although even here I could retort. There's some questions for example:
– What is entry/basic/good level? Are there any criteria that helps distinguish the basic level from the average?
– How can you determine the level of someone while playing Warmer? As I said, the Warmer is the scheme, where people just perform what they want to perform. Maybe someone just doesn't want to perform some masterful tricks.
– Everything in the world is relative. Is the watermelon big or small? If you compare it to an apple, then yes. If you compare it to the planet, then no. Is the "noob" relative or absolute term? Are the criterias of entry/basic/good level absolute or relative?

I don't expect the answers to these questions, because I don't want to argue. These questions are rhetorical for showing you that everything isn't as simple as you want.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 11:56 PM
I personally feel like people are too easy to insult and offend these days and that it's unhealthy to sugarcoat everything. Whether you call them a noob, or a beginner, or they lack skill, or that they aren't good enough yet, it's all the same thing...

People should not be taught and raised to be offended by failure or a lack of experience... Just tell them "Look, you're not very good right now, but if you enjoy it enough and keep practising one day you will be WAY above average!"

That's the truth, the truth should not be offensive.

I strongly believe in tough love, to specifically admire those who show strength, confidence and skill far more than anyone else. If you do anything but this, getting better doesn't have as much of an impact.

I didn't say that noobs don't exist lol. And I agree that the truth shouldn't be offensive. I was talking about the culture of rope freestyling and the warm, friendly atmosphere. I said that we should mentally eradicate the word "noob" in relation to Warmer and freestyling, because it can degrade the atmosphere and the culture. "Noob" is a bad label for many. If you don't believe me, go to the open WormNet (out of friendly tus-games) and play random games with a guys, try to call them noobs and you will see the reaction.

Besides, how can you even be a noob at freestyle? If you have came to FREESTYLE, then you at least have basic skills.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 11:56 PM
That's why reaching top tier status all those years ago felt special, these days it's like they want to treat everyone like a winner even when they are a loser lol.

If there was a delusional ignorance somewhere, it is here. 

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 11:56 PM
Nah... There is no way a noob is going to surprise anyone unless they are faking it, and if they are faking it then they have other problems in their life.

You are so sure that you are right that I don't even want to disappoint you. 

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 11:56 PM
I'm doing this for fun, it's my personal ambition and vision to create a very successful event with the best players that exist.

You have a good ambitions, I wish you good luck honestly. And I just wanted to help with the situation, because this event is so far from successful, like so far our planet from the Alpha Centauri. But instead of thinking about my words, you've began to argue and tried to prove that I was wrong. Ok, it's your business, do your own way.

It is impossible to have a successful event with the best players in an empty room. First of all, we need at least someone to fill this room... And I'm talking not about spectators.

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 02:50 AM
Why? Noob is a legitimate word to explain someone who is new/beginner level.

I was a noob once lol. Absolutely nothing wrong with that! It's just shorthand for newbie.

To better explain my point of view, let's remember what a Warmer is and how it has been perceived. Imo, this is a "warm" (sorry for wordplay: warm Warmer, lol), relaxing and player-friendly scheme, where all players can practice their roping skills, tricks, freestyling and have interesting conversations during hours. There are no noobs, this is a place where people just perform what they want to perform and no one competes. I understand that this is the cup and we are here for competitive gameplay, so this is a different case. But if we're talking about culture of freestyling and about Warmer in general, we should not scare people away by calling someone a noob. Imo, "noob" word is a bit offensive, many people could get offended.

Although I also think that being a noob is normal. I still tell everyone that I'm a noob. 

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 02:50 AM
Though, I always have been and always will be quite happy to play with noobs and teach them, but when it comes to actual competitive gameplay... At a level expected to be the best of the best, it's kinda dumb to put noobs against insanely skilled players.

Why can't a noob just has a try? If a player is truly a noob, he/she will lose in the first game. But what if he/she is a "dark horse" and could surprise everyone?

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 02:50 AM
To have these events streamed live, with a growing audience on Twitch, is something to aspire towards!

Exactly!

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 01:03 AM
He's going to ask some of his friends who might play. If this happens, I'll reactivate it. Fingers crossed!

Good news!

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 16, 2023, 01:03 AM
This is not an event for noobs, or anyone who is lazy, or people who are unreliable.

If we want to "resurrect" rope freestyling and the Warmer scheme, we need to get rid of the word "noob". There are those who can be mentors, and there are those who need a mentor. That's it. Otherwise, this scheme will continue scaring a new people away.