Quote from: DarkOne on March 18, 2011, 10:58 AM
Personally, I found it weird that we can play elite for both the classic league and TEL Only thing that's added is playoffs for TEL in addition to the classic league. The system works exactly the same and the schemes are exactly the same.

So why not just have 2 playoffs for classic league? An overall playoff and a specialist playoff? The specialist playoffs pick one of the scheme ratings and uses the same criteria. The specialist playoff should be a new scheme each season so it's still interesting.

This is actually making a lot more sense now.

You can also simplify a lot of reporting problems by just making everything report into the classic league. The only real differences for TEL right now is that it has its own standings/playoffs/overall ranking. If everything just reports into the classic league (MI confirm if this is possible), everything is ok as long as you still have separate Elite standings you can view -> which also has it's own separate playoff seeds/minimum requirements. The only outstanding issue would be how to handle the currently two separate overall ratings (classic and TEL).

Naturally, this concept could also expand to other schemes that gain enough support. So there could be separate Roper standings with its own playoff seeds/minimum requirements. And now for TTRR, there would be separate standings and its own playoff seeds/requirements.

Depending on popularity, these separate standings/playoffs could be removed, or just go dormant. In the end though, all is reported into classic league, so that instead of duplicate schemes getting split up reports with separate leagues... the classic league could truly show all games being played, and hopefully show the true allrounder.


edit: also, this could potentially increase the chances of finding those specialized games in ag -> "TTRR tus anyone?" will probably get more people to accept because those games will count toward those specialized standings along with the classic standings.

Yeah I know Komo, and I find that weird.. though it's possible he might be waiting for a future season? I have no idea.. only he can come here and tell his story. If he indeed wants to wait, and TRL does change to TTRR, he'll be missing out on the roper action!

edit: ahh, MI, nice.. nope, looks like I missed that, or actually I read it back then... and immediately forgot ^^

those sounds like randomized names from the team editor.

lol xD

I know you're taking this seriously, and you made a nicely written complaint..

still, it's a bit funny ;3

You mention a nice approach to this MI. You also bring up very good questions.. worthy of discussion.

I actually did not realize until now that TRL:Roper meant The Rotated League:Roper.. but now it makes sense. Though Johnny, the biggest supporter of roper league, might not like it if it's changed to TTRR next. I'm assuming he also thought like me, that TRL stood for "The Roper League." Other hardcore ropers might also dislike roper league being gone for 2 months or even 4 months (if you rotate between TTRR, Hysteria, Roper).

Then others might say TEL is unfair to get a league all by itself. My only defense for TEL.. is that it probably has one of the strongest communities (at least right now). If that changes in the future.. perhaps TEL shouldn't have a league all by itself.

Personally? I'd like to see TTRR next in the TRL. I actually enjoy many of these schemes: roper/ttrr/hysteria.. and I wouldn't mind seeing them get some love. If that works by letting them in TRL, then I think that's nice.

I would play in a ttrr league

try not to restrict to only weekends this late into the deadline. Dulek, 26th/27th is the last weekend before the deadline.

if it takes staying up late on a weekday to get finished.. it can be worth it.

if you guys can still work out a weekend time, good.. but don't expect weekends to always work.

(just trying to help)

Quote from: Devilage on March 15, 2011, 07:35 PM
Cool thx! elite maps?

yea

Since there was no rule forcing phanton to use a standard scheme, it was apparently Spaazi's fault for lighting up. It's dumb, and I don't agree with TUS being this way for so long, but it took until now to make a new rule. Game stands.

hm, looks like it went through many versions.
I found this in my old files. version3 created 2005 July 10th

by today, we're almost 2 weeks in.
that's less than 1 week left for round1 singles.
that's less than 3 weeks left for round1 clans.

singles:

BOROTALCO/Nail, good job.

Bonus/Csongi, has Bonus still not replied at all Csongi? you need to post here Bonus and answer Csongi's attempts to arrange. Post here even if you're talking outside this thread because it looks like you still aren't putting in any effort. I'm willing to let Csongi advance if this continues like this.

Bry4N/daina, good job.

Orange/Zippo, you need to post here Orange because it looks like you aren't putting in any effort. Post here even if you're talking outside this thread. I know Zippo can't post here, but if these games don't get played, both of you risk getting kicked out. So Zippo, you might want to make even extra effort.


clans:

dC/ps, AGAIN, you need to post here dC and answer ps's attempts to arrange by Guaton/Dulek.  Post here even if you're talking outside this thread because it looks like you aren't putting in any effort. I'm willing to let ps advance if this continues like this.

TaG/cfc, you need to post here TaG and answer cfc's attempts to arrange by Komito/daina. Komito has given very good info about times to play. Twyrfher, all you have said is "We r still deciding when to play" and that is not enough. Post here even if you're talking outside this thread because it looks like you aren't putting in much effort. I'm willing to let cfc advance if this continues like this.

by today, we're almost 2 weeks in.
that's less than 1 week left for round1.

Zippo/Almog, I see 3 games have been played. Zippo is up 2-1. Good luck finishing the rest.

Nail/Random, good job.

Csongi/Johnny, nice job again. ;p

Artic/franz, it would help a lot if you post when you want to play. Most evenings work for me, but other times likely work too if you tell me in advance. I know you said last week you were really busy. I hope it's not the same for this week. Less than a week left to play anyway.

darkone, you might want to split this out of the thread

maybe my 'comma' confused you, but my last sentence meant to go "not because you're good at wxw, and not because the system is trying to find a way to give you some advantage." it isn't ;p  it's meant to try giving you the appropriate amount of points due to skill level and where you are in the season.

so early in the season, which is where you are right now at zero games played.. -> you gain many points because your season rating is well below your true skill. so once you win a few games, you'll start winning less points per game. those 65 point wins won't be so easily given out.

makes sense I hope ;]

hhc, karlos' score looks fine. it's important to also realize that #wins and #losses do not really matter as much as quality of opponents. still, should be interesting to see how the standings look when most people up there have 80+ games to quality for PO. if it still looks weird then, maybe something can get worked out, but let's be optimistic first.

ray, don't be lazy  ;p
you don't get an unfair advantage. true, wxw is your best, but wxw is also phanton's best. the scoring compares your 1000 season starter rating to his fairly high 1649 overall wxw rating. that's why you can potentially win 65 points. not because you're good at wxw, and the system is trying to find a way to give you some advantage ;p