https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-132889/

in the very beggining of game avirex quit and said we can report this if we wanna

Quote[dt`avirex] i have to go
[dt`avirex] sorry.
[dt`avirex] take the win if u must

we consulted with sir and decide to continue the game when avi will come back

Quote[sX`Impo] i guess it will be senseful to continue this game the next time
[sX`Impo] we wont report anything anyway

now I opened tus and saw this game reported by orange hahah

if you read the comments of that game you will discover that things didn't go exactly that way.

Again, this is another example not to always continue playing in every scenario. Either stop right away or clearly say something. "if you want" is the absolute worst thing you could have said Impo.  It's giving the option to continue to Orange.  This alone might've been enough to side with you Orange, but during Impo's turn continuing, you kept talking:

[dt-orange] i dont know what the rules say
[sX`Impo] wtf
[dt-orange] ill try
[dt-orange] if you agree
[sX`Sir-J] da ladno huj s nim
[sX`Sir-J] powli otsyuda xD
[sX`Impo] i guess it will be senseful to continue this game the next time
[sX`Impo] we wont report anything anyway


As you can see, your key phrase was "if you agree".  This turns the tables back again, giving sX the option to not agree on the continuing.  -->  and sX clearly says to continue this game the next time.  Case closed.  I'd say this game is void to continue later, but other mods please feel free to post.

Quote from: franz on December 09, 2012, 10:13 PM
Again, this is another example not to always continue playing in every scenario. Either stop right away or clearly say something. "if you want" is the absolute worst thing you could have said Impo.  It's giving the option to continue to Orange.  This alone might've been enough to side with you Orange, but during Impo's turn continuing, you kept talking:

[dt-orange] i dont know what the rules say
[sX`Impo] wtf
[dt-orange] ill try
[dt-orange] if you agree
[sX`Sir-J] da ladno huj s nim
[sX`Sir-J] powli otsyuda xD
[sX`Impo] i guess it will be senseful to continue this game the next time
[sX`Impo] we wont report anything anyway


As you can see, your key phrase was "if you agree".  This turns the tables back again, giving sX the option to not agree on the continuing.  -->  and sX clearly says to continue this game the next time.  Case closed.  I'd say this game is void to continue later, but other mods please feel free to post.

yeah ok. i don't care if you void or not the game, what i care is that you completely missed the point. https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/game-132889/msg150100/?topicseen#new check the comments here before reading the rest of this post, please.
ok now: TUS really can't continue managing drops/quits like this. the team that is winning will always wait some time before they answer, to see how the game is going, to have the option of void the game later as they can. the team that is loosing will tend to abort or to create some confusion exploiting the rules in all ways they can, even subconsciously.

this sucks, really.

what about having a rule that says something like:
"if someone drops/quits EVERYONE SKIPS TURNS unless the decision of rehosting or continuing is made"?
if a drop happen when the water is rising or in a very decisive situation (this means before a shot that can clearly END a game) there will be no rh, unless both teams accept or a moderator decides otherwise.

btw i suck in making rules, this is only a suggestion. you guys will suggest other interesting solutions i'm sure of this. lets try to rule this issue in a solid way, cmon. is that hard? let's make a poll or something.

Quote from: franz on December 09, 2012, 10:13 PM
Again, this is another example not to always continue playing in every scenario. Either stop right away or clearly say something. "if you want" is the absolute worst thing you could have said Impo.  It's giving the option to continue to Orange.  This alone might've been enough to side with you Orange, but during Impo's turn continuing, you kept talking:

[dt-orange] i dont know what the rules say
[sX`Impo] wtf
[dt-orange] ill try
[dt-orange] if you agree
[sX`Sir-J] da ladno huj s nim
[sX`Sir-J] powli otsyuda xD
[sX`Impo] i guess it will be senseful to continue this game the next time
[sX`Impo] we wont report anything anyway


As you can see, your key phrase was "if you agree".  This turns the tables back again, giving sX the option to not agree on the continuing.  -->  and sX clearly says to continue this game the next time.  Case closed.  I'd say this game is void to continue later, but other mods please feel free to post.

and by the way, just for the sake of information, if you watch carefully the replay you will see how really things went:

*avi quits*

"oh @#[%! should i continue the game?" :(

"if you want.." xDDD

*sX fails an attack* :)

"ye but i dont know what the rules say" :(

*orange is hitting them and piling carefully*

some time passes, orange keeps attacking hard and sX starts worrying

"blablamarooskaja daswieeenjja
some suspicious russian speaking!" oO

"i guess it will be senseful to continue this game the next time, blabla" yeahhh sure -.-

*orange is about to win*

*QUIT*
*QUIT*

i really do not want this win....


im glad it was reported though, so this can be discussed..

how come when RwAvoiders dropped in a game, and barman did "an aggressive torch" (stupidest thing i ever heard)  we automatically lost the game...

but when i left the game, and sX were clearly making aggressive moves its void game??   it almost seems as if mods do anything to screw dt over  (people outside of dt have even agreed with that statement, its become an on going joke)


i would suggest someone translate what was said between impo and sirj before any decisions are made, and i would also suggest to make a clear rule, because what Chelseavoider did was completely bullshit, but he was rewarded.

Quote from: avirex on December 10, 2012, 01:43 AM
i would suggest someone translate what was said between impo and sirj before any decisions are made

[dt-orange] ill try
[dt-orange] if you agree
[sX`Sir-J] da ladno huj s nim -> f@#! this
[sX`Sir-J] powli otsyuda xD  -> lets find another game
[sX`Impo] i guess it will be senseful to continue this game the next time
[sX`Impo] we wont report anything anyway

Quote from: avirex on December 10, 2012, 01:43 AM
it almost seems as if mods do anything to screw dt over  (people outside of dt have even agreed with that statement, its become an on going joke)

Overreacted much? Come on, man.
I completely agree about having a rule about this specific situation.

overreacted?? nah.. you have not seen all the complaints ae?

as i said, people outside of dt have mentioned it.

free wins vs dt for all

[aggresive torch mode on] free wins vs dt for all or not for all i dont give a f@#! ae, now the only clan who have free win is dt n@#!!!s huaeuhae your acting like a bitches made sir-j out of his brain, he cant play clanners anymore now, I worry about his health condition feel me n@#!!!s? 1 week ago MI deleted all wins of sX over dt, and 2 winned games l3x (all loosed games stay ofc). Because of an alias in clan. I didnt complaint. I just kicked aliases and take the situation as much serious as it was possible for the moment. That bs got away with dt and you think you can now do whatever you want with us eh? not today uhaeuhae I will fight for the respect of my clan n@#!!!s thats what leaders in clan was involved for ae [/aggresive torch mode off]

[aggressive torch mode one] n@#!!! n@#!!! my n@#!!!, i all ready said i dont want the win... i made that perfectly clear...

but lets set some f@#!ing rules here, if chelsea gets a free win after his mate drops, and aggressive plays are continued, then we should be entitled to a free win as well...

(either way, i dont want the win, let me say it again, i dont want the win!)

btw impo: you say it like u had many wins vs dt, there was 1 bng win that was deleted, and dt never asked for that.. infact, we did not even know it happened, you brought it to our attention, and we all had a good laugh at your expense n@#!!! n@#!!! n@#!!!

tbh i got bored of this soap opera bullshit!
MI !!1MAKE CLEAR RULE ABOUT DROPS OR BAN ME huaeuhaeuh

your the only one turning it into soap opera bullshit, or talking about bans...


hyuayahayhayuha....

Avi, you forgot to turn aggresive torch mode off mate...

what the hell is aggressive torch mode?