I don't have much experience in competitions, but as a scheme maker I could help selecting schemes I think are well thought or well made for competitions, including schemes that are not yet uploaded in TUS, but exist.

I've not read the whole post and I apologise for this. Without any background reading can I throw an idea for playoffs as this seems like the thing that hasn't been determined yet.

Each scheme ladder leader could be put into an 'allround style' playoffs and if a ladder leader in Kaos or darts or whatever and they didn't want to take part in the 'allround style' playoffs they could opt out knowing they are still 1st in their scheme ladder. However, all the league ladder leaders would then go into a mini tournament of those schemes? Dibz for example might be the ladder leader of loads of rope variations and that would make a smaller pool of players? Or you give it to 1st and 2nd in that scheme variation? It could almost be like a mini cup?

Yes, that has been discussed Tom, it's the most important question to see what people would prefer for playoffs in a league like this.

The idea of 'allround' will always feel forced and restricted to me.

I personally believe individual scheme playoffs for the most popular schemes of each season is the best idea, whoever wins the most out of all those, if they even enjoy them, can be considered the best variety player for that season.

I'm not against 'allround', although won't deny I think it's a waste of time with unrealistic statistics.

Quote from: Senator on June 19, 2021, 01:42 PM

Quote from: Senator on June 19, 2021, 10:37 AM
- let's say TTRR is in top 8 schemes. Why would I accept a TTRR game vs Sbaffo as if it was a mutual pick when I'm most likely going to lose and it will affect my chances of getting in the top 8 schemes playoffs? If we are going to have all-around playoffs, people should be allowed to look for games the old way "top 8 schemes any1" so that both players can pick 1 scheme.

This same issue is in the original idea. If I look for TUS TTRR in this single scheme ladder system and get randomly matched with Sbaffo, the game should affect my TTRR rating only, not my allround rating or my top 8 schemes rating. If I were to play with Sbaffo a TTRR game that affects my allround rating, I would want to have my own scheme pick so that I can get compensation for the TTRR loss. If I played with Sbaffo just 1 game for the allround ladder, it would be some middle-ground pick such as Roper. Another example: I'd like participate in Jetpack Race ladder and learn the scheme but playing Jetpack Race would make my Racing schemes rating worse than it would be if I focused on the racing schemes that I already know. I think single scheme ladders and allround ladders should be kept separated like Classic League and TEL were.

I guess we shouldn't worry about this too much. It may look like a risk to play a single match against a scheme specialist for the all-around ladder but it will be ok in the long run when everyone gets more games in different schemes.

In the current system you have to play all the schemes (at least when you type "TUS anyone") because your opponent can pick a scheme. In this new system you could decide not to play certain schemes at all. How are you going to make sure that the players who qualify for all-around playoffs are those who play most of the supported schemes (or scheme types)? Could this be more of an issue than it was before? One way to handle this is to have scheme classes in one of the pre-curated filters but is that something people are willing to test?

Quote from: Senator on June 29, 2021, 10:19 AM
In the current system you have to play all the schemes (at least when you type "TUS anyone") because your opponent can pick a scheme. In this new system you could decide not to play certain schemes at all. How are you going to make sure that the players who qualify for all-around playoffs are those who play most of the supported schemes (or scheme types)?

Well, this is why i'd prefer individual scheme playoffs, I don't even see allround as important, however saying that it still shows those stats.

First off, let's change the word allround to what it really is - popular.

In the grand scheme of things, ask yourself, 'Do we really need any kind of "popular" system?'

With the new system in place, you can compare yourself as an popular player against other popular players by selecting whichever schemes you want.

So for example someone can pick:

BnG / Darts / Hysteria / Big RR / Elite / Intermediate / Team17 / Roper / Jetpack Race / Golf

Then it would show statistics for all those schemes combined, you could add or remove any of those schemes at your own will.

If you are playing all the most popular schemes, then you can compete in those individual scheme playoffs, if you win them all, you can consider yourself the best popular player of that current moment for what is popular.

Actually it's better this way, if there are 8 popular schemes, and you compete in all 8, it's better than only choosing 3 out of 8-11 available schemes in the old system.

If I had the highest ranking and therefor first pick in PO matches, I could beat most people in BnG/Hysteria/Big RR/Roper when i'm in shape, but if I were to play all 11 schemes that currently exist right now, my chances of winning become dramatically lower.

Do you see my point why individual scheme playoffs would be better, and actually show who the better popular scheme players are?

I'm so lost here lol

We are going to need a guidebook for new players

Quote from: TheWalrus on June 30, 2021, 01:18 AM
I'm so lost here lol

We are going to need a guidebook for new players

start writing

I would like a new league format where I can play only the schemes I like and that defeats in this scheme would not interfere with statistics of other leagues.

A separate league for every scheme would be the best option from the start IMO (discussed multiple times)