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Quote from: Deadcode on August 31, 2021, 08:58 PMIt's a real shame that this scheme has Fast Walk in it. That nullifies the advantage of taking almost all the nice time-saving jump opportunities in this map. (And in general too, it's just a really bad idea. Why did it ever become accepted to do this?)If it didn't have Fast Walk I'd take part in this challenge.
Quote from: Korydex on August 31, 2021, 09:05 PMQuote from: Deadcode on August 31, 2021, 08:58 PMIt's a real shame that this scheme has Fast Walk in it. That nullifies the advantage of taking almost all the nice time-saving jump opportunities in this map. (And in general too, it's just a really bad idea. Why did it ever become accepted to do this?)If it didn't have Fast Walk I'd take part in this challenge.Fast Walk was used in pretty much every walk race chally before. I'm not quite sure there are many time-saving jumps instead of fastwalk but there are places where you can't jump at all.
Quote from: TheWalrus on August 31, 2021, 09:22 PMQuote from: Korydex on August 31, 2021, 09:05 PMQuote from: Deadcode on August 31, 2021, 08:58 PMIt's a real shame that this scheme has Fast Walk in it. That nullifies the advantage of taking almost all the nice time-saving jump opportunities in this map. (And in general too, it's just a really bad idea. Why did it ever become accepted to do this?)If it didn't have Fast Walk I'd take part in this challenge.Fast Walk was used in pretty much every walk race chally before. I'm not quite sure there are many time-saving jumps instead of fastwalk but there are places where you can't jump at all.DC is correct, jumping saves time and there are more opportunities to gain time when there is no FW. FW effectively lowers the skill ceiling as it relates to overall time. Fun fact, deadcode hosted this map for a cl2k? wl? challenge back when replays first started cropping up. Could have been the first ever submit your replay contest?
Quote from: Korydex on August 31, 2021, 09:05 PMI'm not quite sure there are many time-saving jumps instead of fastwalk but there are places where you can't jump at all.
Quote from: Korydex on August 31, 2021, 09:05 PMFast Walk was used in pretty much every walk race chally before.
Quote from: TheWalrus on August 31, 2021, 09:22 PMFun fact, deadcode hosted this map for a cl2k? wl? challenge back when replays first started cropping up. Could have been the first ever submit your replay contest?
Quote from: Syc on September 01, 2021, 07:13 AMI just did it and I don't mind the fast walk Deadcode. You have to compare the fun of time-saving jumps with the agony of slow walking through a long walking portion. I guess with the right map you wouldn't really have long walking portions, but this map had a few, so I was glad to have the fast walk.
Quote from: Deadcode on September 01, 2021, 07:19 AMQuote from: TheWalrus on August 31, 2021, 09:22 PMFun fact, deadcode hosted this map for a cl2k? wl? challenge back when replays first started cropping up. Could have been the first ever submit your replay contest?I don't think that is correct. I helped GARG0YLE palettize the map on 2005-04-27, but that version had the banana in the upper right placed badly, preventing the map from being completable. The final version has the banana moved a bit to fix this, but I only downloaded it on 2012-12-31, and have only placed it once, on 2013-10-31 with 4 other people (including Walrus). He and I tied for first place. (I also played it with ShyGuy on 2020-09-16, but he surrendered at the part with dark grey pixels that can be barely seen.)
Quote from: Deadcode on September 01, 2021, 07:21 AMQuote from: Syc on September 01, 2021, 07:13 AMI just did it and I don't mind the fast walk Deadcode. You have to compare the fun of time-saving jumps with the agony of slow walking through a long walking portion. I guess with the right map you wouldn't really have long walking portions, but this map had a few, so I was glad to have the fast walk.Good for you, but I refuse to lend any legitimacy to this, abusing battle race maps by playing them with fast walk. Especially old school ones like this, which were very much designed to be played without fast walk.And to be clear, I am all for using maps in ways they weren't intended/designed for, if it's good or interesting. But adding fastwalk to battlerace is neither of those things.
Quote from: Lupastic on September 01, 2021, 10:34 PMwhy don't u guys rather do the challenge, instead of bitching about it? with fast walk its less boring, especially at those long straight paths, on which you simply need to hold down a cursor arrow. and when you are measuring your jumps to make it pixel perfect, fast walk makes the whole process even harder, as you are stepping back and forth, since you are walking faster, it screws you up
Quote from: TheWalrus on September 04, 2021, 07:56 PMJust having an interesting nerd conversation about br game theory, please don't find it injurious to yourself