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Name: Rowy - One weap at a time
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Created: March 09, 2013, 01:08 PM

Cup scheme(s): scheme Rowy 3.8
Click on the book to download the scheme. Click on the scheme name to view the scheme page.

Signups time: March 09, 2013, 02:30 PM

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Description:


Rules: (Copyright: Philie  ;))
-AWTRW (attack with the right weapon): the next 1 on the weapon table. Start with bazooka, then homing missile, then mortar, and so on. When all weapons, from f1 to f11 are finished, players finish the game by using patsy's every turn.
-AET (attack every turn): you NEED to use the next weapon, even if you can't do damage. Falls, plops, timeouts, skips etc. are cows if you failed to use a weapon.

What happens if someone cows?
-> the other player is now allowed to use the patsy magic bullet OR he can continue with his next weapon (if he feels that gives him more of an advantage). The player that cowed (didn't use the right weapon, or used no weapon at all) uses the weapon that he skipped next turn and continues finishing his 'rows' as normal after that.

NB: sometimes there's a delay bug with mortar. if this happens, just skip 1 round.

Set up:
Each players starts with 3 teams of 8 worms. (so 24 worms vs 24 worms)
Play on BIG maps. BIG shopper maps, kill the king maps or mnp maps are best suited.
For example, search maps on WMDB with feature size BIG: http://www.wmdb.org/maps/?map[feature_size]=-2 (alas can't get this link to work, copy paste the url ;))
Or use one of the maps of the Rowy WO tourneys:
http://www.wormolympics.com/tournaments/show/1009?maps=1#results
http://2012.wormolympics.com/tournaments/show/757?maps=1#results
http://2011.wormolympics.com/tournaments/show/518?maps=1#results
Try to find ones that are elaborate and seem fun  ;)

All games are bo1.

Update:
Regarding girders: blocking of worms is not allowed. The worm must be able to walk/jump out.
Regarding bungee: must use it if you can, if you really can't (and other player agree that you can't) you can skip your turn.

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Deadline: April 01, 2013, 10:00 AM
Group 1
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Poland Chelsea CAT pH X2a 3 3 0
Netherlands HHC AeF X2a 3 2 1
Russian Federation Uzurpator che pH tS 3 1 2
Poland jot CAT pH X2a 3 0 3
Games [6]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
142049 Netherlands HHC Poland jot
1:0		 March 23, 2013, 12:54 PM 0
141685 Poland Chelsea Netherlands HHC
1:0		 March 19, 2013, 06:06 PM 0
141674 Poland Chelsea Russian Federation Uzurpator
1:0		 March 19, 2013, 04:50 PM 0
141467 Poland Chelsea Poland jot
1:0		 March 17, 2013, 09:26 PM 0
141286 Netherlands HHC Russian Federation Uzurpator
1:0		 March 16, 2013, 01:14 PM 0
141208 Russian Federation Uzurpator Poland jot
1:0		 March 15, 2013, 04:42 PM 0
4/5
Group 2
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Russian Federation Dmitry che tS WAR 3 3 0
Finland VoK uI FwB x1H 3 2 1
Bulgaria Worm_gamer che dS pd 3 1 2
Finland Husk TdC b2b ea 3 0 3
Games [6]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
141651 Russian Federation Dmitry Finland Husk
1:0		 March 19, 2013, 03:19 PM 0
141569 Russian Federation Dmitry Finland VoK
1:0		 March 18, 2013, 07:27 PM 0
141550 Russian Federation Dmitry Bulgaria Worm_gamer
1:0		 March 18, 2013, 03:34 PM 0
141422 Bulgaria Worm_gamer Finland Husk
1:0		 March 17, 2013, 04:37 PM 3
141228 Finland VoK Bulgaria Worm_gamer
1:0		 March 15, 2013, 07:42 PM 0
141220 Finland VoK Finland Husk
1:0		 March 15, 2013, 06:36 PM 0
3/5
Group 3
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Russian Federation OREL RS pH 3 3 0
Germany DENnis FD 3 2 1
Egypt Prince_Egypt PW x1H X2a 3 1 2
Germany Peja AeF FoS od 3 0 3
Games [6]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
143203 Russian Federation OREL Egypt Prince_Egypt
1:0		 April 06, 2013, 12:15 AM 0
142677 Germany DENnis Egypt Prince_Egypt
1:0		 March 30, 2013, 07:00 PM 0
142575 Egypt Prince_Egypt Germany Peja
1:0		 March 29, 2013, 02:24 PM 0
141649 Russian Federation OREL Germany Peja
1:0		 March 19, 2013, 02:38 PM 0
2/5
141575 Germany DENnis Germany Peja
1:0		 March 18, 2013, 07:48 PM 0
141555 Russian Federation OREL Germany DENnis
1:0		 March 18, 2013, 05:37 PM 0
3/5
Group 4
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Germany Hurz dS 3 2 1
Germany philie AeF FoS od 3 1 2
Hungary Tomi iNf PFFC 2 1 1
France antho RoH 2 1 1
Games [5]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
142330 France antho Germany philie
1:0		 March 26, 2013, 08:47 PM 0
3/5
141992 Germany philie Hungary Tomi
1:0		 March 22, 2013, 03:53 PM 1
141718 Germany Hurz Germany philie
1:0		 March 20, 2013, 12:02 AM 5
141597 Germany Hurz France antho
1:0		 March 18, 2013, 10:04 PM 0
141307 Hungary Tomi Germany Hurz
1:0		 March 16, 2013, 05:17 PM 0

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Offline Husk

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 05:03 PM »
Quote from: DENnis on March 17, 2013, 05:01 PM
The worst thing is not even that his scheme is clumsy and bugged without a lot of fixes, the worst thing is the name faking and playing this wrong named cup with a wrong named scheme.

You called this cup Rowy (I know philie caused the faking by calling his RowyRemix Rowy, too) but you say it is forbidden to use the scheme which is called Rowy and that is really silly. It kills a lot of fun to play with a bugged scheme and let Rowy look bad! It isn't even an updated scheme, because it is actually the opposite!

It would be ok if you rename it to RowyRemix, Full-Rowy or Rowy-All!

It is correct that with several extra rules it could work with some luck and that it can be fun if you are lucky and can swing with the bungee and do a nice fly to better hide for example, but that luck that you could use bungee so nice will almost never happen. The heights distance for a good working bungee has a small tolerance so you will mainly have to skip and lose several turns, plop a worm or avoid 2 main rules!


There actually has to be 4 more rules added:

1) Skip a turn if you can't use bungee if it is not possible isn't enough because the next turn you will have to use bungee again and so on which would probably cause a lot of skipped and lost turns and to lose because of bad luck kills too much fun. I'm sorry but the RowyRemix has much more contras than pros.

2) If you can't use bungee at first try (it could happen that you could never use bungee and end in a skiprace) then you have to tell an extra rule to the extra rule: Not only skip 1 turn, skip the whole weapon!

3) 2 Teams instead of 3 Teams or fix the delay-bug if you want to change the main Rowy rules, too and keep playing with 3 teams! 3 Teams would be ok after a schemefix because then you could attack more often.

4) No 100% blocking with girders.

how come u didn't speak while we were still waiting for the cup to start? )=
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Offline Husk

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2013, 06:40 PM »
well it doesn't matter anymore =)

anyway, maybe we could switch to the better scheme (and rules) by dennis when the knockouts start?
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Offline DENnis

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2013, 07:51 PM »
Quote from: Husk on March 17, 2013, 06:40 PM
well it doesn't matter anymore =)

anyway, maybe we could switch to the better scheme (and rules) by dennis when the knockouts start?

Thank you very much. I'm very sorry that I didn't talk earlier about it, Peja just said that there will be a Rowy cup and I clicked join without looking. Then I was busy sometimes, drove with my stunt inline skates, played sport-games (yes, really offline, I can't believe if I read that ;D) and juggled (no, not only with my balls, perverts :P) so I didn't care much about this cup and when I was at home I just was playing a lot (finally I'm not an absolute beginner nomore, :D)

+ Writing everything for that as detailed as possible and factual (yes, that's DENnis' Quality) took a very long time for me. I just read Uzurpators and ORELs comments later and it was strange to see "Rules Copyright by philie", wtf? (but maybe he just means that he changed a word or sentence), and that we won't play Rowy at a Rowy-Cup. After that I just had to write down the necessary words which shall not sound unfriendly because philie and HHC probably just tryed to make Rowy more famous which could be a good thing if it would have been done in the correct way, too.

The main thing here is just that we have fun anyway because Rowy was meant as a varied fun scheme where you just use more weapons as in the known standard schemes.
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Offline philie

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2013, 10:12 AM »
lol man.
first thing to say: i never claimed any copyright for rowy, but instead said it was yours (and pejas) scheme. check scheme info: https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-936/, or any rowy wo cups (check od-profile for the links). if you want, i can add in the subtitle that it's a "full-rowy remix" or whatever.
you think i "raped" your scheme, but i think i improved it. the decision to add the 4 remaining weaps was tested of course. nevertheless the girder and bungee rules makes sense, i'll add them to the description.
to the worms number: there's a delay prob with mortar, yes. then it works. that's a small problem to gain something bigger: rowy games often last till armageddon, while with 2 teams per player they often are finished at f9 or f10.
some final note:
without peja and me hosting a rowy-fest each wo, YOUR scheme would have been forgotten already 2 years ago, so pls stop shouting at me.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2013, 10:15 AM by philie »
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Offline OREL

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2013, 01:31 PM »
Peja, Den, Prince i'm in AG today and tommorow :) PM
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Offline DENnis

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2013, 04:16 PM »
I didn't shout, I just wrote down the necessary facts after the first complaints came up here because I don't like misunderstandings.

The bug is not caused by Mortar, lol, like I said every delayed weapon has to get 1 turn delay less for every new team you add. Of course thats a lot of work to fix it, that's why I suggest to use better maps instead of more worms (watch the Example Replay if you want). To skip one turn every game because of the delay bug and hope that your oppenent knows about ur delay bug or reads the chat so that he won't attack you with Patsy's Magic Bullet is a clumsy way. Same goes for Bungee where the whole "weapon" has to be skipped and not only 1 turn, like I explained in many ways already. And then you have the problem that the delay is wrong for the whole rest of the game which is bad, too.

I see the pros at your adds, too, don't worry. I like bungee btw. It just doesn't fit to Rowy because it wouldn't work in the most games, causes cows or unnecessary dying worms (Yes, with 3 Teams it wouldn't hurt so much to lose 1 turn and 1 worm more in a lot of cases but anyway I don't like suicide).

+ Read my last post here. Yes, ty philie that you mentioned peja and me in your description. The Copyright was written down in this cup description because HHC probably thought that you developed the rules. Last post:

Quote from: DENnis on March 17, 2013, 07:51 PM
Quote from: Husk on March 17, 2013, 06:40 PM
well it doesn't matter anymore =)

anyway, maybe we could switch to the better scheme (and rules) by dennis when the knockouts start?

Thank you very much. I'm very sorry that I didn't talk earlier about it, Peja just said that there will be a Rowy cup and I clicked join without looking. Then I was busy sometimes, drove with my stunt inline skates, played sport-games (yes, really offline, I can't believe if I read that ;D) and juggled (no, not only with my balls, perverts :P) so I didn't care much about this cup and when I was at home I just was playing a lot (finally I'm not an absolute beginner nomore, :D)

+ Writing everything for that as detailed as possible and factual (yes, that's DENnis' Quality) took a very long time for me. I just read Uzurpators and ORELs comments later and it was strange to see "Rules Copyright by philie", wtf? (but maybe he just means that he changed a word or sentence), and that we won't play Rowy at a Rowy-Cup. After that I just had to write down the necessary words which shall not sound unfriendly because philie and HHC probably just tryed to make Rowy more famous which could be a good thing if it would have been done in the correct way, too.

The main thing here is just that we have fun anyway because Rowy was meant as a varied fun scheme where you just use more weapons as in the known standard schemes.





Quote from: OREL on March 18, 2013, 01:12 PM
i'm in AG go play cup?

At that time I was at work, but tomorrow I'll have a free day so I can play a lot today and tomorrow :P
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Offline Korydex

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2013, 04:47 PM »
IMO, playing with bungee would be more interesting... It makes you think many turns ahead not to get in the spot where you can't use it. 8)
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Offline Husk

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2013, 05:12 PM »
me n dmitry agreed tomorrow 14:00 GMT, but if we fail that we r gonna try 16:00 GMT xD
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Offline philie

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2013, 11:27 PM »
Quote from: DENnis on March 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
like I said every delayed weapon has to get 1 turn delay less for every new team you add.

thanks, i didn't know that.

Quote from: DENnis on March 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
Of course thats a lot of work to fix it

2 mins.

Quote from: DENnis on March 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
And then you have the problem that the delay is wrong for the whole rest of the game which is bad, too.

nah. that's not true. if you skip mortar, the rest of the delays work fine.
but that doesn't matter, cause i fixed this bug.
plus there'll be 2 schemes: 1 for 3 teams vs 3 teams games, and the other for 2 vs 2 (vs 2).

Quote from: DENnis on March 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
Bungee just doesn't fit to Rowy because it wouldn't work in the most games, causes cows or unnecessary dying worms.

well... i just don't think so  :)

Quote from: DENnis on March 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
Yes, ty philie that you mentioned peja and me in your description. The Copyright was written down in this cup description because HHC probably thought that you developed the rules.

guess we're fine then.


i'm gonna change the name to Rowy 2.0 and link to the original scheme you uploaded.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2013, 11:38 PM by philie »
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Offline HHC

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2013, 11:34 PM »
Quote from: DENnis on March 18, 2013, 04:16 PM
+ Read my last post here. Yes, ty philie that you mentioned peja and me in your description. The Copyright was written down in this cup description because HHC probably thought that you developed the rules.

It was Phil who uploaded the scheme here (it was still missing), I copied the rules from the scheme description and changed 1 or 2 things. The core text was Phil's though, that's why copyright him.

I hope this thing is settled now. Cup advances  :)
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Offline DENnis

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2013, 12:06 AM »
Yes all good now, ty for the listening and fixing.

I think that scheme works good with the extra rules and 3 worms teams fixes and if the maps are very good like the map "fatman" where u have several levels. then u have a good chance that bungee will work. + I just did 2 nice bungees alrdy in my 2 past games. 1 with getting a crate and swing back to hide and one with swing back to top too at the aladdin map, I suggest u use maps like that then both schemes works great.
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Offline philie

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2013, 12:18 AM »
1 thing to do: hhc: could you update the cup page once more? you need to change the scheme to this 1: https://www.tus-wa.com/schemes/scheme-951/
and maybe tell every1 to download it again...
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Offline HHC

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2013, 11:29 AM »
Hmm, not a fan of changing a scheme in the middle of a cup.

I replaced the scheme in the cup description though, It's the same right? Just mortar bug removed?
Both can be used then, don't think ppl will even notice  :)
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Offline philie

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2013, 09:44 AM »
ya, alright
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Offline HHC

Re: Cup #555, Rowy
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2013, 12:27 PM »
Nice job on the activity people, still 9 days left and most of the games are done already  8)

Might even be able to start k/o soon  :-[

edit: for draws in standings amount of worms/hp counts.
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