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ASC 2013 #2: Roper

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Name: ASC 2013 #2: Roper
Type: Public
Game type: 1vs1
Created: June 23, 2013, 10:13 AM

Cup scheme(s): scheme Roper
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Signups time: June 23, 2013, 12:00 PM

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Description:


Welcome to the 2nd ASC cup of 2013  :) Scheme is Roper!
This cup is a .1 level ASC cup, which means it's worth quite a few points  ;)

Rules:
- Bo3 in group stage and in knockouts.
- CBA, AFR/AFC, no blocks.
- If you block don't attack next turn, just get a crate and hide.
- Firebombs are allowed (blowing up a crate) (must CBA though).
- Game deciding cow is game void or a loss (depending on the circumstances).

Maps:
Any you like, no map whoring though  ;)

Prizes:
1530euro! to spend at the Steam Store on any PC game of your choice!
Don't need to go through any hassle, just install the free Steam program and you can download your game within no time :)
And besides the Steam prize... a nice custom medal and points that count towards the annual ASC ranking  :)


Sign up stage lasts roughly a week. Gl & hf all  ;)


Cup Medals:

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Deadline: August 21, 2013, 12:30 AM
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NiCo` (Nikoo`)
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Groups

Deadline: July 21, 2013, 11:00 PM
Group 1
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Chile NiCo` l3x fr` 2 1/3 1
Poland Kyho AeF rM 1 1/2 0
Poland Swist AeF 1 0 1
Spain Aerox 0 0 0
Games [2]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
150557 Poland Kyho Chile NiCo`
2:1		 July 08, 2013, 06:53 PM 0
150523 Chile NiCo` Poland Swist
2:0		 July 08, 2013, 01:00 AM 0
Group 2
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
United Kingdom TheKomodo AeF dS 3 3/6 0
Finland Free dt ea WAR 2 1/2 1
Turkey Triad UC dS FAW 2 0 2
Romania Crok 1 0 1
Games [4]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
151004 United Kingdom TheKomodo Romania Crok
2:0		 July 15, 2013, 08:54 AM 0
150662 United Kingdom TheKomodo Turkey Triad
2:0		 July 10, 2013, 08:54 AM 0
150395 United Kingdom TheKomodo Finland Free
2:0		 July 05, 2013, 01:28 PM 0
150318 Finland Free Turkey Triad
2:0		 July 03, 2013, 11:43 AM 0
Group 3
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Hungary Csongi dP RL rM 2 2/4 0
Finland Husk TdC ea b2b 3 1/3 2
Netherlands HHC ea AeF X2a 3 1/3 2
Bosnia and Herzegovina twistah dt Elite 2 1/2 1
Games [5]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
151207 Bosnia and Herzegovina twistah Netherlands HHC
2:1		 July 18, 2013, 09:35 PM 0
150570 Netherlands HHC Finland Husk
2:0		 July 08, 2013, 10:46 PM 0
150373 Hungary Csongi Netherlands HHC
2:0		 July 04, 2013, 05:10 PM 0
150234 Hungary Csongi Finland Husk
2:1		 July 01, 2013, 09:04 PM 0
150224 Finland Husk Bosnia and Herzegovina twistah
2:0		 July 01, 2013, 06:19 PM 0
Group 4
Country Player Groups Total Won Lost #1 #2
Germany Random00 ea CF 3 2/4 1
Russian Federation Statik dt sm fp 2 2/4 0
Poland Hussar TdC sR FoS 2 1/3 1
Russian Federation _ssm_ che 3 0 3
Games [5]
ID Winner Loser Replay Time Game Rate
152365 Russian Federation Statik Germany Random00
2:0		 August 13, 2013, 09:10 PM 0
151352 Poland Hussar Russian Federation _ssm_
2:0		 July 22, 2013, 01:11 PM 0
150770 Germany Random00 Poland Hussar
2:1		 July 11, 2013, 08:45 PM 0
150539 Russian Federation Statik Russian Federation _ssm_
2:0		 July 08, 2013, 02:55 PM 0
150404 Germany Random00 Russian Federation _ssm_
2:0		 July 05, 2013, 03:43 PM 1

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Offline HHC

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2013, 11:17 AM »
Yeah people, I see a lot of inactive players  :(

2 weeks is the final deadline, play or gtfo!  ;D
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Offline HHC

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2013, 07:15 PM »
Added a week to the deadline, cause so few games played.   :(

Make me proud  ;)
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2013, 07:22 PM »
I can't get a hold of Crok whatsoever...
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Offline Husk

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2013, 01:49 AM »
me neither, until I added him in skype: Mihnea Lazăr, the one from Cluj-Napoca, Romania.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2013, 02:16 AM by Husk »
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Offline Crok

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2013, 07:08 AM »
Here I am! Sorry about this, my appearances are sporadic. :D
Feel free to add me on skype, or on Windows Live, but usually when I'm free to play, I'm on snooper.
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2013, 07:23 AM »
Crok, please let us know the times you play, so we can arrange our games, we only have 7 days left !

Cheers !
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Offline HHC

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2013, 01:21 PM »
knockouts are up  :)

Gl hf all  8)
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Offline Hussar

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2013, 01:35 PM »
why u kicked me ? i pleyed more games then statik  :(

also won more games..
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Offline Rok

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2013, 02:12 PM »
Yeah, HHC, what's up with that?
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Offline HHC

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2013, 03:41 PM »
Quote from: Berria on July 22, 2013, 01:35 PM
why u kicked me ? i pleyed more games then statik  :(

also won more games..

- The correct order of placements in the groups is decided by:
1) overall record (with 1-1 being better than 1-2)
2) rounds record (BOTH rounds won AND rounds lost)
3) mutual result (between tied players)
4) if all of the above are the same, I count worms (and after HP's of worms if the same).

Overall record of Statik is better. 1-0 > 1-1.
Rounds aren't considered for overall record, only when the overall is the same.
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Offline Rok

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2013, 04:33 PM »
That's ridiculous.

Given that berria played both his games before statik played his first one, statik had no incentive to play his second game (quite the contrary, playing with random00 could've made situtation worse for him if he lost 2:0). He just needed to wait for the deadline.
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Offline HHC

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2013, 04:57 PM »
Quote from: Rok on July 22, 2013, 04:33 PM
Given that berria played both his games before statik played his first one, statik had no incentive to play his second game (quite the contrary, playing with random00 could've made situtation worse for him if he lost 2:0). He just needed to wait for the deadline.

Given that you're not participating in this cup, nor are a cup mod, you have no business here making drama.

On the subject: it's not true. Berria played ssm this morning, after the deadline had passed and after statik had finished his game.
There are drawbacks to the system, I can see that, but all ways to settle draws do have 'em. What if Statik's opponents weren't motivated anymore to finish their games. Would it be right to kick Statik out even though he was never able to finish his matches?

People tend to solve this with extending deadlines, which may be right, but it does delay everything. The group stage was already delayed a full week. If I have to choose between 1-0 and 1-1 I go for 1-0 as the better record. That may benefit the inactive player, but IMO it's a better record than 1-1.
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Offline TheKomodo

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2013, 05:21 PM »
I think it's the wrong decision as well, berria put the effort in, he deserves to go through, statik could always lose his other games, it's always been like that...
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Offline Rok

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2013, 05:32 PM »
Quote from: HHC on July 22, 2013, 04:57 PM
Given that you're not participating in this cup, nor are a cup mod, you have no business here making drama.

That's not worth responding to.

Quote from: HHC on July 22, 2013, 04:57 PM
On the subject: it's not true. Berria played ssm this morning, after the deadline had passed and after statik had finished his game.
There are drawbacks to the system, I can see that, but all ways to settle draws do have 'em. What if Statik's opponents weren't motivated anymore to finish their games. Would it be right to kick Statik out even though he was never able to finish his matches?

My bad, I looked top-to-bottom insted bottom-up.

Quote from: HHC on July 22, 2013, 04:57 PM
People tend to solve this with extending deadlines, which may be right, but it does delay everything. The group stage was already delayed a full week. If I have to choose between 1-0 and 1-1 I go for 1-0 as the better record. That may benefit the inactive player, but IMO it's a better record than 1-1.

You can't even meaningfully compare 1-0 and 1-1, not in a round-robin group where all games are supposed to happen.  You can chose to discard the game that was reported after the deadline. Then it's 1:0 for statik and 0:1 for berria. Can you accurately tell who did better given that they didn't play against the same opponents? I don't think so.

The best you can IMO do here is assign results of games that didn't happen as draws.

You then get

              Random00   Berria   Statik  ssm
Random00      X             2         1       2     = 5
Berria             1              X         1      1     = 3
Statik             1              1         X       1    = 3
ssm                0              0         0       X    = 1

Still a tie.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2013, 05:34 PM by Rok »
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Offline DarkOne

Re: Cup #591, ASC 2013 #2: Roper
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2013, 05:55 PM »
There's something odd about your table there, Rok. Why is Statik's win over _ssm_ only 1-0 while Random's win over _ssm_ is 2-0? Same applies to Berria's win while I'm at it, so that would put them both at 4 round wins. Round losses is a different matter, though, Statik would win that.

On the other hand...

Quote from: HHC on July 22, 2013, 04:57 PM
What if Statik's opponents weren't motivated anymore to finish their games. Would it be right to kick Statik out even though he was never able to finish his matches?

What if Statik is the problem? The only games missing are the ones where Statik is involved. Clearly, his other opponents found each other, but Statik didn't. I don't see any evidence of any of the players on this forum that they were trying to find each other (I don't count Statik's as a valid attempt, mind, because if he actually were that active on AG, Random and Berria would have found him).

Personally, I don't advance people if they've only played one game unless they have clearly shown me that have tried their best to find their opponent. Simple reason: if they can't be arsed to find their opponent in the group phase, then they probably can't be arsed to find their opponent in the KO phase either.
So I wouldn't have proceeded Statik here, myself.
But I don't consider proceeding Statik to be a mistake, either, because there's a motivation behind advancing Statik. Just a matter of taste, I suppose. Just don't be surprised if Statik is a no-show in the KO ;)
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