Celebrate overall more?

[Ray]

I'm 100% sure that mm wont win any of the three finals without mablak.

Dude!

[Random00]

Nah, there's been times with much more competition and more contenders. In WL, from the top of my head, whilst HoS kind of dominated there were plenty of other top clans to today's 3: t5x, eif, susuii, dwi, bS, CoN, AC etc etc.

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The very fact that you say HoS dominated back then totally negates your argument that there was more competition and more contenders.

Thats exactly what I thought as well lol. But imo this whole discussion is pointless. The most important thing is that we still have fun playing this old game, isnt it?

[TheKomodo]

I totally just disagree with everything you said at me Free, I just see things differently and have a different opinion from you, so whetever lol.

Now this might look like I think mm sucks or something which is the complete opposite, they always have and always will continue to impress and inspire me for certain reasons, but anyway here:

I don't feel mm are as strong as you think in clanners, where you consider "winning the PO" as the only thing that matters, regardless of how they managed to do this and the circumstances, I feel the complete opposite, IMO mm's 3 strongest schemes in the playoffs are BnG, TTRR, Elite, BnG only because Mablak taught Barman to notch, your competition for BnG is at an advantage because of notching, soon when others know how to notch, this won't be as easy for you, I honestly feel cFc had good chance of winning if I wasn't such a fussy twat and gave away the BnG cuz I didn't wanna play lame at 1st and then quit, and I didn't want to play Hysteria either and imo me/daina are cFc's best Hysteria team, so that's 2 schemes already you won easy, you don't have to care or agree with it, but just think about that, and remember it.

TTRR I feel is pretty much equal when mm's and cfc's top TTRR players are at their best, sometimes Mablak gets 4/5 seconds faster than most so that may give them the edge, but in Clanners, live, he's more human than in the challenges.

All other schemes I feel would just go 50/50 because of things like luck/who starts etc, look how well eS done against mm, they lost 3-2, that's only 1 game from winning...

ps, CKC, CF, cfc could all win PO just as "easily" as mm, this is why I feel "overall" is more important to me personally, even if Mablak was as active as the rest of us, I still feel the standings would pretty much be the same because it's still 2v2/3v3 games and not everyone is Mablak or Random or ArtiC lol.

[Free]

I totally just disagree with everything you said at me Free, I just see things differently and have a different opinion from you, so whetever lol.

Now this might look like I think mm sucks or something which is the complete opposite, they always have and always will continue to impress and inspire me for certain reasons, but anyway here:

I don't feel mm are as strong as you think in clanners, where you consider "winning the PO" as the only thing that matters, regardless of how they managed to do this and the circumstances, I feel the complete opposite, IMO mm's 3 strongest schemes in the playoffs are BnG, TTRR, Elite, BnG only because Mablak taught Barman to notch, your competition for BnG is at an advantage because of notching, soon when others know how to notch, this won't be as easy for you, I honestly feel cFc had good chance of winning if I wasn't such a fussy twat and gave away the BnG cuz I didn't wanna play lame at 1st and then quit, and I didn't want to play Hysteria either and imo me/daina are cFc's best Hysteria team, so that's 2 schemes already you won easy, you don't have to care or agree with it, but just think about that, and remember it.

TTRR I feel is pretty much equal when mm's and cfc's top TTRR players are at their best, sometimes Mablak gets 4/5 seconds faster than most so that may give them the edge, but in Clanners, live, he's more human than in the challenges.

All other schemes I feel would just go 50/50 because of things like luck/who starts etc, look how well eS done against mm, they lost 3-2, that's only 1 game from winning...

ps, CKC, CF, cfc could all win PO just as "easily" as mm, this is why I feel "overall" is more important to me personally, even if Mablak was as active as the rest of us, I still feel the standings would pretty much be the same because it's still 2v2/3v3 games and not everyone is Mablak or Random or ArtiC lol.

Yea whatever man, I know every top clan could win the playoffs.. but they haven't in past 3 seasons because we have. It's simple like that, drop the excuses.

eS got close because I lost the T17 for us (shot myself when I was making the winning move, it would be 3-0) and then they got the hysteria. Man I just hate hysteria.

[TheKomodo]

It's not excuses, it's facts, I don't mean to offend, I am just saying, don't get too over-confident lol.

And I did say "50/50 because of things like luck/who starts etc" which includes mistakes, eg, you shooting yourself.

[Flori]

Well that's how i see it :
Overall is a fight between every player of each clan, and POs is a fight between the best player of each clan.

[TheKomodo]

Well that's how i see it :
Overall is a fight between every player of each clan, and POs is a fight betùùen the best player of each clan.

Yup, pretty much the same here mate.

[Flori]

But well CF cheat at this, Random is into 60% of games

[TheKomodo]

But well CF cheat at this, Random is into 60% of games

That is pretty irrelevant, CF pick and choose their games more carefully than all other clans, maybe not anymore, and they have more great players who joined recently like franz and Cueshark, and Unique I see has re-joined.

All other clans I know pretty much have always just went for it.

[Flori]

I know i was kidding.
If you make a cup and each player of each clan has to play against each player of the other clan, CF wins easily.

[TheKomodo]

I know i was kidding.
If you make a cup and each player of each clan has to play against each player of the other clan, CF wins easily.

Hmmm, i'd disagree there, based on the "TuS" picking system, I personally am ridiculously good at BnG Hysteria and Roper, I am good enough at other schemes to "maybe" get a win in one of their picks if lucky and on perfect form...

And there are alot of players just like me out there, specialise in 2/3 schemes, that's all they need lol.

[Flori]

i meaned overall skills. CF got a lot of v good overall players.
And i'm like you : wxw roper rr ^^

[Leonidas]

It's not excuses, it's facts, I don't mean to offend, I am just saying, don't get too over-confident lol.

And I did say "50/50 because of things like luck/who starts etc" which includes mistakes, eg, you shooting yourself.

How they are facts when they are just simply YOUR opinions?

Edit: woops, my brothers account was on.

-Free

[Peja]

Avirex says:


seems like alot of haters on mm, wtf... are we the new miami heat and mablak is lebron? seems that way...  i hope that does not make me chris bosch hahaha


SPW, you say we are nothing in PO without Mablak? i feel the same way about CF without Random...

and if it came down to those 2 great influences out of the competition, i honestly think mm would come out on top... so whats your point?


and komo: mm does not sit and wait for the perfect line up for clanners....  like cfc and CF does...  i hardly see clanners played by cfc without dainub, and artic present, and CF seems like they wont clanner unless they have 4+ members online...


mm clanners whenever the hell, vs who ever the hell, with whoever the hell.....

ill be in AG with just me and neptune publicly asking for clanners, do we have a chance in ground schemes? prolly not... do we have a chance in ttrr? not yet (give him another week or so ;p )

but we still compete.... mm has won 3 playoffs in a row and you can give all the credit to mablak despite if its always deserved (he said himself he was outplayed by all his mates in the last playoffs, the key player in each game was his mate not him) and disscredit the rest of mm all you want... but id rather be in a clan with big balls, then big overall stats Grin and mm has the big balls of wnet!  just ask peja :p

[TheKomodo]

NepTuNe, who are you again? Forgot what your name was before lol...

No, the fact I don't believe mm are as strong as how strong mm think mm are, is an opinion.

My reasons for having that opinion, are facts.

Edit: Peja, I only play with daina etc because of timezones, and I was busy with music most of the time lalo was here, we did play alot at the beginning, but I got bored lol, and madog jus doesn't wanna play most of the time, innocently, and I can't force him lol.

cFc are nowhere near as bad as CF, anytime I don't wanna play is cuz I can't be arsed or don't have any clanmates online, and daina artic etc all share same timezone so they always on same time, and I hope you take that back because I don't think it's true.