Discussion about possible TTRR League???

[NAiL]

Yeah Nail, let's make a league for every Scheme, then what's the point in Classic League?

I like TTRR and would be cool with having TTRR as a League, but not as a 5th, maybe change the TRL to TTRR for a Season.

The more Leagues you make, the more time people have to spend playing them all to be successful, and alot of people don't have that time.

eh?

We are not talking about a league for every scheme. We are talking about adding a TTRR league.

The point in the classic league is that it is an ALL ROUND league. In this league players must be skilled in all schemes in order to be successful.

Then there are scheme specific league like TEL and TRL. This allows players who specialise in one scheme, or only wish to play a scheme specific league the chance to do so.

As I have already said, activity in the main league has INCREASED with the addition of each new league, this is a good thing.

People dont have to play every single league.... your point is redundant. People play the leagues they wish to play, nobody is forcing anyone to do anything.

As ive said, give me one good reason why offering more variety to players is a bad thing? You cant.

If people want a ttrr league, if people will play in a ttrr league, why is it a bad thing. It isnt.

The only reason you have given is "5 leagues takes the piss", which isnt a reason, its a ridiculous statement.

You seem to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. You say that you support a ttrr league, but in the same sentence you say you dont think there should be a ttrr league. What are you saying? You want one or not? Make up your mind.

Fact is you, or ANYBODY cant give one single valid reason why there shouldnt be a ttrr league (other than creating work for MI, although im sure MI is as eager to improve TUS and please the players as the rest of us).

Remember this isnt TUS league, this isnt a website dedicated to one single league, this is The Ultimate Site. A site created for many different purposes.

[nino]

i agree TTRR should be the next.

[franz]

I would play in a ttrr league

[TheKomodo]

Nail, I already explained i'd like to have TTRR as the next TRL scheme, are you blind lol?

I love BnG, you don't see me asking for a BnG League, and before you say we already have one, that's more of a community than a League, and has different rules, I would still love a TuS BnG League with the TuS Rules but I just don't think it's worth it.

I am not being argumentative, I am stating my opinion and I couldn't care less if TTRR was added as an individual League or not lol, I just don't THINK it should, I am entitled to my opinion and theres NOTHING you can do about that mate

And like I said Nail, whether it applies to you or not, some people don't have the time to play all these new Leagues and be successful with them all although they would.

If I had the time to play Classic and TEL as well as a2b/TuS BnG/TRL along with my Tournaments, and Clanners, the a2b Cup, socializing with Clanmates and b2b mates and other things, I would. Other people have conditions that prevent them from playing everything they wish they had time for.

It's not rocket science to accept this fact, and if TTRR League gets added, i'll play some games, but I won't have the time to be 100% active in it as it's less a priority than other Leagues I prefer, although if I had the time I would, and for ME that creates a problem, and could possibly be the same for others as my main point being too many Leagues knowing full well there are so many people that want to win everything but the way it's going it will just be too much.

Besides, Hysteria is more popular than TTRR and should be added 1st, if going by YOUR point to add activity.

Oh and looking at recent statistics:

Taking into consideration Singles (which is more important because no one plays Single League Clanners actively really):

200 TTRR for Classic Season 19 so far
460 Hysteria for Classic Season 19 so far

1020 Hysteria for Classic Season 18
460 TTRR for Classic Season 18

And if you check Overall, it's even more a mile ahead for Hysteria.

Hysteria deserves a League more than TTRR going by adding activity imo.

[NAiL]

If I had the time to play Classic and TEL as well as a2b/TuS BnG/TRL along with my Tournaments, and Clanners, the a2b Cup, socializing with Clanmates and b2b mates and other things, I would. Other people have conditions that prevent them from playing everything they wish they had time for.

It's not rocket science to accept this fact, and if TTRR League gets added, i'll play some games, but I won't have the time to be 100% active in it as it's less a priority than other Leagues I prefer, although if I had the time I would, and for ME that creates a problem, and could possibly be the same for others as my main point being too many Leagues knowing full well there are so many people that want to win everything but the way it's going it will just be too much.

You do have time, you're on these forums all the time. Instead of reading this post right now you could be in AG looking for a league game, you're not, but you could be.

If you dont have time... why does this matter? If you dont have time to play in every league, so what!? You dont have to play in every league, people can chose what they want to play, when they want to. Nobody is forced to play in every league.

Although I disagree with most of what you say and believe most of it bares absolutely no relevance to the question at hand, I accept your point of view. Im not going to spam this thread repeating the same things over and over, ill leave it here.

Theres only one thing that needs to be done, create a poll asking "Do you want a ttrr league?". If the majority wants one, then it should be so.

[TheKomodo]

Wait, so I am not allowed to spend time socializing with the community and talking about things?

I am in AG right now and I am looking for League games lol, I am trying to get a 2v2 TRL Singles as we speak...

You think my points have no relevance, fair enough, I think the exact same about what you say.

I respect you and always have, and yeah I accept your views although I disagree, but that's what makes us Human

Good luck with TRL, and btw I edited my last post if you didn't read it already.

[MonkeyIsland]

I don't have a problem adding a new league, that's what I always say. I used to think new leagues would kill activity on the classic league. But they didn't, at least so far.

What I care the most, is to have a well managed system for all these leagues. I'm sure there will be requests for other schemes to have separate league too. what I need to know is what should our answer be to each of them. I myself would DEFINITELY play in a Hysteria league.

Should we have another league added, should we set TTRR for the next TRL scheme? A new league always have excitement and it usually blind us to see few steps further. As mentioned above, why TEL is having less games? say we have 10 leagues going on. 3 months later, league #4, #7, #8 are showing inactivity, what will be our action? remove them?

I'll attach a poll to this thread.

[TheKomodo]

MI, you forgot to add an option for "No" lol.

I'd like to see it as the next TRL scheme personally

[MonkeyIsland]

Also TUS tournaments are almost ready. So think about if playing tourney in your favorite scheme would quench your league playing desire?

[franz]

You mention a nice approach to this MI. You also bring up very good questions.. worthy of discussion.

I actually did not realize until now that TRL:Roper meant The Rotated League:Roper.. but now it makes sense. Though Johnny, the biggest supporter of roper league, might not like it if it's changed to TTRR next. I'm assuming he also thought like me, that TRL stood for "The Roper League." Other hardcore ropers might also dislike roper league being gone for 2 months or even 4 months (if you rotate between TTRR, Hysteria, Roper).

Then others might say TEL is unfair to get a league all by itself. My only defense for TEL.. is that it probably has one of the strongest communities (at least right now). If that changes in the future.. perhaps TEL shouldn't have a league all by itself.

Personally? I'd like to see TTRR next in the TRL. I actually enjoy many of these schemes: roper/ttrr/hysteria.. and I wouldn't mind seeing them get some love. If that works by letting them in TRL, then I think that's nice.

[TheKomodo]

It's quite funny you say that franz, cuz Johnny doesn't even play TRL for being the biggest supporter lol.

[MonkeyIsland]

I can't mess with TEL. There are certain people who would assassinate mate the second I do something to it.

I'm assuming he also thought like me, that TRL stood for "The Roper League."

Didn't you read this? (first 2 lines)

[franz]

Yeah I know Komo, and I find that weird.. though it's possible he might be waiting for a future season? I have no idea.. only he can come here and tell his story. If he indeed wants to wait, and TRL does change to TTRR, he'll be missing out on the roper action!

edit: ahh, MI, nice.. nope, looks like I missed that, or actually I read it back then... and immediately forgot ^^

[TheKomodo]

Lol MI, I actually quoted what you just linked earlier in this thread

And yeah franz, I am really enjoying TRL atm, I got a bit angry earlier losing a 2v2 TRL, just the way it all went down at the end was such a slap in the face lol, but i'm cool now, I need a proper version of this keychanger because since I reinstalled windows my Roping just feels weird and the buttons won't respond sometimes :O

Seriously, if you honestly think adding new leagues makes it better, we should think about Hysteria and BnG next, i'd easily nominate myself and some b2b members to take care of it all (that doesn't mean there would be fancy rules etc lol).

I want a piece of this pie xD

[AduN]

that will be a awesome and non-luck league.