Rulebreaking.

[DarkOne]

Abnaxus: SoiDH

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It helps if you click on links.

[Abnaxus]

Abnaxus: SoiDH

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It helps if you click on links.

I did and didn't understand: that's why I asked.

[DarkOne]

Did you see the title of the page too? Source Or It Didn't Happen

[Abnaxus]

Still don't get it. <.<

You mean watching the source code ?

[Husk]

sources for ur accusations (:

[Abnaxus]

https://www.tus-wa.com/forums/complaints/team17-versus-ps/


Can't find my posts, so I let you the response:

Re: TuS rules.
« Sent to: Abnaxus on: March 11, 2010, 10:32 am »

People got banned/warned, after some time they got unbanned and unwarned Smiley

Can you please show me where exactly you are seeing these flames?

[TheKomodo]

Yeah that links stupid D1 lol, should say proof or something not source too many people don't get it lol.

[DarkOne]

Yeah that links stupid D1 lol, should say proof or something not source too many people don't get it lol.

The reason I prefer "source" is that they have to send me to some place that shows that something actually happened. Some people think proof is just saying that something happened.

Abnaxus, all you did was quote MI asking for exactly the same as I am.

[TheKomodo]

Some people think proof is just saying that something happened.

Then they thought wrong lol

[Abnaxus]

Abnaxus, all you did was quote MI asking for exactly the same as I am.

What about the first link ?

Plus, I told you I can't see my messages sent, but you (who are moderator), you should be able to see those ones using the quote I gave you.

[DarkOne]

No, I can't see anyone else's inbox for the simple reason that's not my business.

As for the complaint you mentioned, sorry, missed the link. ps didn't break a rule since TUS allowed both schemes. Rok was quite clear about that. Perhaps we should've used that occasion to make clear rules on the schemes, but we can't change what did or didn't happen in the past.
As for their misbehaving, I'd be annoyed too considering you kept going on about those girders. Everybody was saying play on, wait for mods to decide and you were still complaining about it in the game.
They told you to stop it, though they framed it with their 12 yr old comment at one point and that's it.

[Abnaxus]

Lol D1, don't you think Mods would have said "you finished the game, so it's too late to complaint" ? (Btw, it's half what happenned.)
And that's the reason of my words there.

PS: TuS scheme was 7 girders, and rules said to use TuS scheme.
The only way to use another scheme is to ask your opponent if they mind, what they didn't (hoping we wouldn't notice).
You know, I would get over it if you had agreed you guys made a mistake, but since you refuse it, I can't.

[DarkOne]

Lol D1, don't you think Mods would have said "you finished the game, so it's too late to complaint" ? (Btw, it's half what happenned.)

No, it isn't, not even remotely. Darkz said that, but he was never a mod at TUS. If you're going on about what we "probably would have said" then there's just no way anyone can ever do anything right in your eyes.

And that's the reason of my words there.
PS: TuS scheme was 7 girders, and rules said to use TuS scheme.

https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/#107
Why don't you go and quote that rule from this page?

The only way to use another scheme is to ask your opponent if they mind, what they didn't (hoping we wouldn't notice).
You know, I would get over it if you had agreed you guys made a mistake, but since you refuse it, I can't.

If you can find a quote in the rules saying you must use the TUS schemes, then I will admit things went wrong. I haven't found it, though. Rok didn't find it back when the complaint was made.

I do agree that if people host a scheme that is out of the norm, they should at least notify you before you light up. This is why the announcement was made.
When all is said and done, you're just mad at us because we disagreed with you on the complaint. If that's the norm, then we'll have a lot of people being angry with us for the simple reason that there are complaints.
If you would read Gal's complaint about the same thing actually, you would find that despite our disagreements, we still want to act normally with eachother, which is a healthy way of handling problems .
"I'll never forgive you" is the kind of mentality that leads to trolling, so I would advise you to be very careful about that. Example: http://i.imgur.com/Jdenq.jpg

[Abnaxus]

The rules have changed there, I'm sure of it. The rule was here, ask MI.

you're just mad at us because we disagreed with you on the complaint

That's true, since I was very objective on it.
I never complaint except if I think it's needed ('cause I don't really care).

"I'll never forgive you" is the kind of mentality that leads to trolling

I just have no more confidence about Moderators, that's pretty different.

[DarkOne]

The rules have changed there, I'm sure of it. The rule was here, ask MI.

I did. He didn't know of that ever being in the TUS rules.
Also: http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090514025728/https://www.tus-wa.com/leagues/rules/ please quote it to me. This was from before your complaint, I couldn't find a newer one. If you can find a newer one that does have the rules, then please supply me with a link.

you're just mad at us because we disagreed with you on the complaint

That's true, since I was very objective on it.
I never complaint except if I think it's needed ('cause I don't really care).

Yes, you don't really care so much that over half a year after you made a complaint, you're still going on about how wrong we are, even though you aren't supplying anything to support your case while we have to go around searching for sources.

"I'll never forgive you" is the kind of mentality that leads to trolling

I just have no more confidence about Moderators, that's pretty different.

So far, you haven't given any convincing evidence of mods making a mistake in your complaint. All you're saying is that we're wrong, and when we're supplying arguments against that, you're moving the goal post, like "well, it used to be there, but now it's removed".

See, Komo, this is what I meant with

Some people think proof is just saying that something happened.

Burden of proof, buddy.