TUS Parallel Leagues

[MonkeyIsland]

Hello,

As you saw in the home page, there's a new concept introduced along with TUS2.

For starters, just to give you a hint, this is the main concept:
A parallel league is an indirect league which you can't report directly but it works just as any other league.

The idea started when I wanted to test TUS league for classes introduced by some of our oldschoolers. The idea was that instead of having 8 schemes with classic league, we have 5 scheme classes as follows:

• BnG/Hysteria
• Intermediate/Elite
• Team17/Shopper
• WxW/Roper
• RR

As you can see, each 2 scheme are combined together and act as one class. In order to test this way without ruining TUS Classic league I created a first 'test league' which later evolved into a parallel league. For testing this league which is called Allround league, people doesn't  have to to anything! They continue playing classic league, but this time when they report a WxW game, system also auto-reports WxW/Roper class in allround league. This was basically my way to test the credibility of this new untested league.

So then it hit me, this test league actually have a lot of advantages:

• Great way of gathering statistics and test unstable leagues.
• It doesn't affect main leagues' activity. If anything, it will increase their activity.
• Parallel league has its own selection of schemes or combination of schemes. It doesn't need to alter schemes sets. For example, the Allround league borrows Intermediate from Free league without touching classic league.
• Parallel league has its own seasons and timeline. Classic league could end, but allround would still continue to end of its season.

Are you following? Let me help you. With this system I can create SPW's 'TUS Default League' and create this league with all default schemes, maybe throw in forts there to spice it up without having to touch TUS main leagues. We can create 'TUS Racing League' and add TTRR, bungee race and parachute rate together. All parallel leagues without having to worry about the activity on main leagues.

So someone can ask for its own league in AG, for example 'TUS Default n1' or 'TUS Racing n1' and pick schemes from these leagues schemes sets. In order to avoid confusion around too many leagues, the report page is modified and league select box is removed. Instead you will something like this:



Parallel leagues have their own playoffs, medals and trophies. To avoid having too many playoffs, each parallel league has its own seasons. for example if classic league ends today, the allround parallel league could end a month later. All these info are viewable in seasons info page or in player's profile.

Back to our controversial classes, I'd added another parallel league called Allround2. This is the alternative classes suggested by some other members at the time of hair pulling and eye gouging :

• BnG/Hysteria
• Intermediate/Elite
• Team17
• Shopper/WxW
• Roper/RR

Both these 2 leagues first seasons are set to 3 months. After that, based on their results, one of them will get deleted entirely and the other one will remain as TUS Allround league.

There is also extra point system defined for having balance between your played schemes which will be covered in their own respective thread.

[HHC]

Back to our controversial classes, I'd added another parallel league called Allround2. This is the alternative classes suggested by some other members at the time of hair pulling and eye gouging :

It's quite confusing (even without those two nearly identical class-leagues) 
btw, I think Allround1 will make it, it has all the schemes Allround2 has + RR.. sooo if anyone plays a regular RR game (lol), allround1 will be more active right? 

Looks very promising indeed MI, lots of things you can do with it 

But yeah, I wished you had opted for just 1 of the class systems and make a different 2nd league already. It's kinda the same, but we'll see.
Btw, are there medals for seperate schemes as well?
Suppose I only wanna play Team17? If I win that, will I get a medal for winning T17 scheme ánd for winning overall2 Class-Team17 ?


edit: with so many leagues, cups, tourneys and challenges.. have you thought about adding that feature I proposed in the PDF a long while ago? The world ranking thingy? As to incorporate all the sub-leagues into a single overall score?

[Devilage]

can they pick inter? in classic league?

[MonkeyIsland]

No. But they can play Allround league and pick from that scheme set which includes Intermediate.

[Ray]

I miss one option, if we have a league in which we participate against our will - this is basically it - can you throw in a select box here so I can individually set that in which playoffs I'd like to participate?

I would like to be part of the Classic League, but not the other ones.

[Desetroyah]

I miss one option, if we have a league in which we participate against our will - this is basically it - can you throw in a select box here so I can individually set that in which playoffs I'd like to participate?

I would like to be part of the Classic League, but not the other ones.

+1

But I think Ray we can take it one step further.  Ppl could have boxes about whether they want to participate in ANY league PO if they make it there. This way, ppl who just wanna play 400 games per season but not play the PO could just be automatically not counted in the "PO position #__".

The fact that your points in schemes show in the Allround leagues  Ray I dont think should be a worry since you dont care,  as long as you choose the option  "not interested in PO."

[darKz]

But I think Ray we can take it one step further.  Ppl could have boxes about whether they want to participate in ANY league PO if they make it there. This way, ppl who just wanna play 400 games per season but not play the PO could just be automatically not counted in the "PO position #__".

The fact that your points in schemes show in the Allround leagues  Ray I dont think should be a worry since you dont care,  as long as you choose the option  "not interested in PO."

I'm 95% sure such a checkbox already exists in every user's profile or settings page. Can't be bothered looking for it now though.

Knew it, it's in the League Settings part of your profile. It says "Playoffs participation".

[van]

Obviously he knows that, he meant a separate checkbox for each league.

[Desetroyah]

Obviously he knows that, he meant a separate checkbox for each league.

 

[MonkeyIsland]

if we have a league in which we participate against our will

That's true but it's not right to say it like that. Classic league consists of 8 schemes whether you like it or not. That is against your will too. Any structure of a system will limit you to its own way.

On the side, why would be a bad thing you get to qualify for a different PO? Isn't it another chance to win a title?

[Devilage]

I stick to classic league, trl, and tel if u bring it back, but as ray, i dont think ill be part of those others, so would be nice to be able to not participate at all.

[Doubletime]

This sounds like an excellent idea actually...Maybe you could ressurect tel as well for 1 season too see how it plays out ?

[Aerox]

Very curious to see the difference between allaround1 and allaround2 at the end of the season

[Ray]

Obviously he knows that, he meant a separate checkbox for each league.

I thought noone understood me.

if we have a league in which we participate against our will

That's true but it's not right to say it like that. Classic league consists of 8 schemes whether you like it or not. That is against your will too. Any structure of a system will limit you to its own way.

On the side, why would be a bad thing you get to qualify for a different PO? Isn't it another chance to win a title?

If I refuse to play the Classic League, I can do that. I want to play the Classic League and that automatically makes me participate in the other leagues as well, so yes, I do participate in those leagues against my will. What does having 8 schemes have to do with this? I don't get it.

Anyway, I don't say it's a bad thing, I'm just absolutely not interested in it, that's all. So if I could have the option - which I should have - to manually select which playoffs I would like to participate in and which not, I'd be glad. Otherwise, it will be just a confusion and warning and bans and whatnot for not playing my playoffs games, but in fact, I never even see that I'm in the playoffs, because I'm not following them. Heck, I won't even know about my warning as I don't follow that league's playoffs thread!