Simple new rule update.

avirex · October 27, 2016, 11:50 PM

Because there is no way to determine a big map, from a classic map, and 99% of the community choose to play on classic maps for league game.

I suggest the rules say very specifically "light bulb symbolizes acceptance of map and scheme 99% of the time, but in the case of unforeseen circumstances, it is the hosts job to make opponents aware of maps, scheme changes, etc. Failure to do so could result in void games"

Husk · October 28, 2016, 03:57 AM

u light u agree!

ae use this mapa from replay very good mapa in lobby it looks normal but in game it's different

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WTF-8 · October 28, 2016, 04:46 AM

^ lol'd
though it does have a few black areas in preview, these most likely won't be noticed

XanKriegor · October 28, 2016, 04:49 AM

If the choosen map does not look like it has default proportions/aspect ratio, it likely means that its big map, coz none makes smaller maps, and almost none makes them having default proportions. That shopper map of discord is not default sized one which means its either big or normal, but tight as hell.

Summ: big maps are easy to detect, just look at previews sometimes, no rule addition is needed.

Korydex · October 28, 2016, 05:34 AM

Quote from: Husk on October 28, 2016, 03:57 AM
u light u agree!

ae use this mapa from replay very good mapa in lobby it looks normal but in game it's different

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ahaha n1, but I think league game on this map woulda been void xd

Quote from: XanKriegor on October 28, 2016, 04:49 AM
If the choosen map does not look like it has default proportions/aspect ratio, it likely means that its big map, coz none makes smaller maps, and almost none makes them having default proportions. That shopper map of discord is not default sized one which means its either big or normal, but tight as hell.

Summ: big maps are easy to detect, just look at previews sometimes, no rule addition is needed.

but what about this mapa for example https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-8655/

Slayer · October 28, 2016, 05:54 AM

Quote from: Korydex on October 28, 2016, 05:34 AM

but what about this mapa for example https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-8655/

Considering that this is battle race map, it's easy to detect its real size.

Regarding topic I think that maps must be agreed despite lighting the bulb. Sometimes you should start a game in order to estimate a map. But I can say also that all participants are in the same conditions on any map.

TheWalrus · October 28, 2016, 06:01 AM

Quote from: Korydex on October 28, 2016, 05:34 AM
but what about this mapa for example https://www.tus-wa.com/maps/map-8655/

Common sense doesn't help you here?

If not, I have a tool you can use to jog your memory:

Sbaffo · October 28, 2016, 06:59 AM

TUS league: the league where rules are half written half based on common sense (and what a common sense!)

avirex · October 28, 2016, 07:09 AM

I have seen wxw maps that look small in the thumbnail, but it's because they were small maps...

A small map, made in color does not necessarily mean it's a big map.

Walrus, you keep telling me you have this method of knowing big nap from classic maps, but your not telling me how.. will you kind of are...

So far I got, if there is gaps on the side is a big map (not true)
And if it looks small on the preview it's big map (also not true)

I think the logical thing would be for the host to tell people it's a big map... it's very simple.

Senator · October 28, 2016, 08:21 AM

Here's a rule of thumb for you: if you see a map that looks small / has gaps on the sides, ask "isn't this a big map?" 99% of the time you don't need to ask and 99% of the time you are right.

TheMadCharles' method works too if you are not using wkSuperFrontendHD (you can't see the warning text if that feature is enabled). Then you get the exact dimensions of every PNG map.

RIP · October 28, 2016, 08:39 AM

Born a new kind avoiders.

TheKomodo · October 28, 2016, 09:36 AM

Senator get a grip!

The person who is hosting should be the person to declare any abnormal settings for the match, period, stop making things harder for the people who actually put the most effort into playing this League.

You have pretty much almost everyone telling you how things would be better, you are doing exactly what Team17 do every f**king time they make a new game, by ignoring the people who actually LOVE the game and know what they are talking about...

Seriously, you wonder why people are getting fed up?

Senator · October 28, 2016, 10:22 AM

Quote from: Senator on October 28, 2016, 12:53 AM
What if the host forgets to do that? How long can you play before requiring a map change? One turn? Even if you fail your turn?

RIP · October 28, 2016, 10:28 AM

RIP · October 28, 2016, 10:32 AM

Quote from: TheKomodo on October 28, 2016, 09:36 AM
Senator get a grip!

The person who is hosting should be the person to declare any abnormal settings for the match, period, stop making things harder for the people who actually put the most effort into playing this League.

You have pretty much almost everyone telling you how things would be better, you are doing exactly what Team17 do every f**king time they make a new game, by ignoring the people who actually LOVE the game and know what they are talking about...

Seriously, you wonder why people are getting fed up?

What the troubles with Senator and Shopper now? all time old players used "special harder maps vs opponents". why this question wake up only now???
Dibz hate big shopper but he never crying about it and never sking to change map! respecte him for this. me also all time play ttrr and from 12` all time 100% lose it for him and no probleme.